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Are AI About To Announce DEL-MAN?  
User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1813 posts, RR: 9
Posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4345 times:

I've heard from a very credible source that AI are close to announcing DEL-MAN, flying daily. Thought I'd put it out here to see if people knew more?

If so would be a great scoop for MAN which has seen good announcements recently. EY and QR to go double daily to add to the already double daily EK flights. Incidentally, EK are rumoured to be announcing a third daily soon and a possible upgrade from 77W to A380 on the 19/20.


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User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2977 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4194 times:

Quoting danfearn77 (Thread starter):
I've heard from a very credible source that AI are close to announcing DEL-MAN, flying daily. Thought I'd put it out here to see if people knew more?

Yes, I've heard DEL - MAN daily and 3-4 weekly DEL - BHX. DEL - MAN could start as early as August, while the latter is expected to launch in W11.



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User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7394 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4043 times:
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some poking around the AI website (specifically the cargo bit!) shows available cargo capacity to the UK as being 24 flights a week - 21 to LHR and 3 to BHX. Would that info be related to the 2005 BHX operation or is that webpage indicative what is going to happen? How good is your source ojas?

User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2977 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3620 times:

Quoting david_itl (Reply 2):
some poking around the AI website (specifically the cargo bit!) shows available cargo capacity to the UK as being 24 flights a week - 21 to LHR and 3 to BHX. Would that info be related to the 2005 BHX operation or is that webpage indicative what is going to happen? How good is your source ojas?

The information from this source of mine is 75-80% accurate. However this is Air India, so anything can happen!



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User currently offlineworldliner From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3391 times:

Would be a great announcement and a good scoop for MAN, AI must of dropped their grudge, im sure they said they would never fly to MAN again after they were treated poorly when they used to fly there.


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User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1813 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

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Quoting worldliner (Reply 4):

what did MAN do wrongly to AI last time?!!

One thing my source isn't sure about is a start date. Ojas, how credible could the august start date be?



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User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2977 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

Quoting danfearn77 (Reply 5):
Ojas, how credible could the august start date be?

We need to wait for a month, till it becomes clear how and when Air India's leased A330s, B787s are (if no issues arise) delivered. However, it can very much start by August as Air India has 3 B77Ws doing practically nothing.



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User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1813 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Thanks Ojas. If they have these 77W's sat doing not a lot I suppose they could get up and running pretty soon.


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User currently offlineLuftyMatt From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 428 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Last they flew to MAN, I know the loads were excellent. I know that this doesn't mean that they were profitable flights, but there is certainly demand there.


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User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7394 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2896 times:
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Quoting danfearn77 (Reply 5):
Quoting worldliner (Reply 4):


what did MAN do wrongly to AI last time?!!

A couple of weeks before they withdrew the service, they indicated in Flight Magazine MAN was one of some half a dozen routes they wanted to increase frequency to. Maybe lack of aircraft may have played a part and not a lack of decent handling (there was a time when AI started to use BHX on occasions when LHR was out of commission and that made sense in term of them flying there, but they have used MAN over the past two to three years even when they still had a BHX operation.)


User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2758 times:

A good move by AI if it comes to fruition.

I can see MAN turn into a decent Star Alliance hub at this rate, BD,LH, UA(CO), SQ, AC and when the join AI (When!!)

I just wonder if BA is watching all this build up in MAN and wonders if it needs to react and chase the view that not everybody wants to go through LHR. They have to be losing a large amount of traffic to American, Middle East and Asian Carriers and thats going to grow not decrease.


User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3016 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2585 times:
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Manchester, Rome and several other A313 European services were withdrawn by Air India under Political/Ministerial instruction of the then Indian government who wanted these aircraft redeployed in the gulf moving migrant workers.

Things have changed significantly in recent years with the liberalization in the area.
Air india express , Jet, Oman, FlyDubai, Emirates, Qatar, Air Arabia , Etihad, Indigo, Kingfisher and others aggressively compete for this traffic today,

The recession and rapidly rising oil prices are making ULH operations unviable for many including Air India.
Those B77L aircraft are simply not suited,and the B77W can operate on just about all their existing routes anyway.

Few airlines really need the B77L capabilities , just look even Emirates can and do deploy the B77W to the US west coast !

So back to AIr India if the polticos have now assessed that the recession and Middle East instabilities are adversely effecting operations then we can certainly expect some resources to be redeployed.

That almost certainly means returns to Europe, Australian, and growth into Chinese markets again.


User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2992 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1858 times:

Given AI's track record, I would not expect anything until the plane arrives at the airport for its first service.

Would be a good addition for MAN, but time will tell.


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