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What's Behind The Boom At Turkish?  
User currently offlinefaro From Egypt, joined Aug 2007, 1587 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2704 times:

Turkish Airlines are expanding like there's no tomorrow; what are the underlying causes of this expansion and who is TK taking traffic away from?

Faro


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User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 3014 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2677 times:

Quoting faro (Thread starter):
urkish Airlines are expanding like there's no tomorrow; what are the underlying causes of this expansion and who is TK taking traffic away from?

Great questions.

I guess that they are seeing other carriers (eg. EK, QR and EY) taking a stronger role, and needed to increase their network to compete. The position of IST gives it a great opportunity to do that.

Turkey is also a growing economy, which gives it extra traffic to build from.

The rate of growth has been extremely aggressive though.


User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1608 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2655 times:

TK is making slow but steady progress in taking traffic from the Gulf and from EU companies.
Istambul position is unique.
Attaturk airport is not congested yet.
Prospects as trasit hub are very good.

Not to mantion that Turkey in terms of sighseeings can be compared only with Italy and Egypt.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26026 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

Well this question was asked a bit ago ago, and here were my answers having observed Turkish aviation for 3-decades now.

1) Incredible growth of Turkish economy in two last decades, with large increases in global trade and commerce.
2) Deregulation, liberalization, open skies, and privatization airline industry.
3) Great geography. Historic silk route and a natural east-west hub
4) Growing domestic market of 80 mil people. People are turning to planes from buses.
5) Large growing Turkish middle class to whom overseas travel is normal part of life.
6) Huge inbound tourism market
7) Government focus to develop and aid the sector via infrastructure projects, reduced taxes.
8) Low cost labor base compared to Europe
9) Great improvement in product, its service and delivery.
10) A few timely good leaders both at TK and government with vision for the future.
&
11) Luck - that many of these things have come together in unison!



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User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

Even more unusual is that TK retains the old full service model in economy.

Doing well on connecting traffic out of Dublin, to places where the options previously involved the transit hell of LHR, near hell of CDG, or developing hell of AMS for non-Schengen passengers.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4464 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Quoting faro (Thread starter):
who is TK taking traffic away from?

I asked this few years back, my own answer; from everyone else.
Two examples; Finnair and Elal stopped their IST flights.
Next examples could be Iberia and Alitalia ( not stopping but losing share). TK to fly to 4 destinations in Spain and 7 in Italy. I can't see IB or AZ competing with that. BA, KL, AF must be losing also.
One exception LH due to *A.
And now with 4 destinations in the US (JFK, ORD, IAD, LAX) TK is still unchallenged in the US market. This summer TK will have 28 weekly nonstop flights to IST from those 4 gateways, whereas DL is the only US carrier offering 7 weekly JFK-IST.
But lately DL is upgrading to 332 from 763 and will be offering Y+.
Most importantly TK can subsidize its international growth by being the dominant domestic carrier.


User currently offlinenitepilot79 From Turkey, joined May 2008, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

Not to mention Turkish also owns Anadolu, Pegasus, and Atlas, all of which seem to do pretty brisk business.


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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4464 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

Quoting nitepilot79 (Reply 6):

TK owns AnadoluJet, but not Pegasus or Atlasjet.
I am not sure if you were trying to make a sarcastic comment or a joke. I didn't get it.
Maybe you meant Sunekspress.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4987 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

Quoting faro (Thread starter):
Turkish Airlines are expanding like there's no tomorrow; what are the underlying causes of this expansion and who is TK taking traffic away from?

The geographic position would be one of their advantages when compared to other European carriers...

EK413



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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6365 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2031 times:

Turkey has always had a huge population, especially Istanbul, which is one of the largest cities on the planet. What they have also is an increasingly robust economy with growing personal income, which has allowed travel to flourish, both personal and professional.

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 2):
Attaturk airport is not congested yet.

Every time I am there, I get stuck in traffic on the tarmac...seems congested to me each and every time I am there, no matter what time of day.


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