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KLM CityHopper: Dutch/English Crew  
User currently offlineNQYGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8508 times:

Having flown KLM CityHopper at the weekend, I was wandering how crewing works with them- on both flights there was British flight crew but Dutch flight attendants. Likewise, on one of the flights there was a British cabin member.

I know there is something to do with ex-KLM UK crew, but can anyone with more knowledge shed a light?

Cheers.

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User currently offlineJQflightie From Australia, joined Mar 2009, 940 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8498 times:

i know they have a crew base in HUY ....


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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1669 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks ago) and read 8331 times:

So is NWI...

Both UK-based and NL-based cockpit- and cabincrews can be assigned on KLC flights...

So you can have an all UK crew, all NL crew or a mix  

One of the 'pleasures' of flying KLC !!!



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4914 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8179 times:

LBA/HUY/NWI bases dating back to Air UK/KLM UK days


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User currently offlineairbuster From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7896 times:

It's down to this:

UK Cabin Crew and Pilots on a KLM uk contract (means they can only fly for Cityhopper)
UK Pilots on a KLM contract (they came from Air UK/KLM uk but opted for a KLM contract when offered)
Dutch Pilots on a KLM contract
And there's even 1 Dutch pilot on a KLM uk contract
Dutch Cabin crew on a KLM cityhopper contract

Then there are different rostering rules for the seperate groups, different bases but they can all fly together.
A real rostering nightmare!

Talk about confusing.

rgds

AB



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User currently offline330lover From Belgium, joined Jul 2008, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7545 times:

Quoting airbuster (Reply 4):
A real rostering nightmare

And a good source of cancellations / delays? The more complicated the rostering, the more change of mistakes?



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User currently offlineNQYGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7426 times:

Thanks airbuster, that certainly cleared things up.. Do all crew British crew speak Dutch too? I seem to recall seeing a video online where the Dutch announcements were pre-recorded.

User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4593 posts, RR: 38
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7395 times:
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Quoting NQYGuy (Reply 6):
Thanks airbuster, that certainly cleared things up.. Do all crew British crew speak Dutch too? I seem to recall seeing a video online where the Dutch announcements were pre-recorded.


Since I fly the City-hopper F70 every week I can add some to the discussion:

Some English crew members have studied Dutch.The pronunciation is not always that good, but at least they have made the effort. The Dutch crews speak English well enough for the task. And then there is the occasional South-African flight attendant and her Dutch accent (Afrikaans) is so nice.  .

And the pre-recorded announcements are frequently used as well, which to me (though I do not need it) a very acceptable solution.

Quoting 330lover (Reply 5):
And a good source of cancellations / delays? The more complicated the rostering, the more change of mistakes?


Not to my knowledge and experience, and I flying AMS-LBA every week for almost a year now.  . (with probably another full year to come  ).


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24075 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7281 times:

Quoting NQYGuy (Reply 6):
Do all crew British crew speak Dutch too? I seem to recall seeing a video online where the Dutch announcements were pre-recorded.

I recall one KL City Hopper flight a year or so ago where the entire crew was British and none of them spoke Dutch. At least there were no Dutch announcements.


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