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CSA Czech Airlines New And Future Destinations  
User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9065 times:

Hello guys,

CSA Czech Airlines will open a few interesting routes starting summer schedule:

Lvov, Donetsk and Charkov in Ukraine
Baku, Azerbaijan
Bordeaux, France

Also, CSA informed, they are reducing weekly frequencies on the PRG- OSL, CAI and DAM routes.

Very interesting was the future prospects of new destinations. CSA said, they are analyzing and looking to start new routes in the Middle and Far East. The destinations mentioned are the following:

Rijad, Saudi Arabia
Tehran, Iran
Ashgabat, Turkmenistan
Bagdad, Iraq
and others...


Very interesting!!! I hope they open these destionations in the future, hopefully they will add a long-haul plane as they are promising. Nothing mentioned by CSA by now.

Have a great day,
Adam


Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7632 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9036 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
... and Far East... hopefully they will add a long-haul plane as they are promising

Any type mentioned? The A310s are gone, right? I guess the choice would be between A332 and 788, unless they go for second hand 767s.



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8887 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 1):
I guess the choice would be between A332 and 788, unless they go for second hand 767s.

Haven't they started Hanoi with an A320; if they do go to the Far East, they may just use existing aircraft.


User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1257 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8750 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 2):
Hanoi with an A320

Would an A320 have the legs to make that?



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7632 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8717 times:

Quoting planeguy727 (Reply 3):
Would an A320 have the legs to make that?

There is an intermediate stop in Central Asia, but with no traffic rights.



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User currently offlineSingaporeBoy From Singapore, joined May 2005, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8473 times:

didnt they fly to Singapore many years ago with their IL-62s??What was the routing?

User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1027 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8265 times:

Quoting planeguy727 (Reply 3):
Would an A320 have the legs to make that?

Not nonstop, no.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 4):
There is an intermediate stop in Central Asia, but with no traffic rights.

Correct, the tech stop is in Almaty (ALA).



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User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 592 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8118 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
CSA Czech Airlines will open a few interesting routes starting summer schedule:

Lvov, Donetsk and Charkov in Ukraine
Baku, Azerbaijan
Bordeaux, France

That's great news for Bordeaux ! That city needs more direct links with other European hubs and PRG is perfect to connect with East European cities.

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):
hopefully they will add a long-haul plane as they are promising. Nothing mentioned by CSA by now.

IMHO, CSA should get a couple of Boeing 763's for its routes to Asia and maybe reopen JFK. All the best for CSA.

Regards,



JESÚS, TE AMO !!
User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7931 times:

I hope BOD will work for them. I think they used to fly to MAR some time ago and it was short lived. With current fleet of A320 and ATR42 they do not have much leverage for long haul destinations.

User currently offlineRAGAZZO777 From Uruguay, joined Jul 2010, 592 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7887 times:

Quoting WROORD (Reply 8):
I think they used to fly to MAR some time ago and it was short lived.

They used to fly PRG-Marseille-Barcelona. Nowadays Marseille (MRS) is a sesonal destination for CSA, while Barcelona is a year-round service.

Regards,



JESÚS, TE AMO !!
User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7648 times:

Quoting RAGAZZO777 (Reply 7):
Boeing 763'

CSA has a strategy of an all-Airbus fleet, they are phasing out the 734 and 735 now. A 763 is not an option in OK´s strategy. If they will buy sometime a long-haul, it will be a A330, maybe the A350 once it flies...

All the best,

Adam



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineHonza From Czech Republic, joined May 2005, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6995 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 10):
If they will buy sometime a long-haul

..they will have gone bankrupt before this would happen..  


User currently offlinestipica From Croatia, joined Feb 2011, 427 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 6478 times:

I know that this is negative news but I'm interested if anyone has information why the ČSA has discontinued its seasonal summer flights from Prague to Dubrovnik and Split after many years ( excellent sales and good yields - info from cro agent )...lack of equipment ?

"In the golden years" during the summer we had ČSA,SkyEurope (really missing) and SmartWings now we have only SmartWings ( 3 x weekly )...my plan is to go to Prague for 10 days,during July .... what can I expect from SmartWings LCC or charters ?


At the same time ČSA will be increasing its frequencies to Zagreb ( first ČSA international destination back in 1930 ) to 9 x weekly

OK 815 (1-3-5--) ZAG 08:15 - 09:50 ZAG (AT7)
OK 818/9 (12345-7) PRG 12:10 - 13:40 ZAG 14:40 - 16:15 PRG (AT4)
OK 814 (-2-4--7) PRG 21:20 - 22:50 ZAG (AT7)

Stipica



Open your eyes and think
User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 6200 times:

Quoting stipica (Reply 12):
I know that this is negative news but I'm interested if anyone has information why the ČSA has discontinued its seasonal summer flights from Prague to Dubrovnik and Split after many years ( excellent sales and good yields - info from cro agent )...lack of equipment ?

Hey Stipica! I am not aware of why they dropped it, but I thought they are keeping Dubrovnik for the summer... Weird   Well, if they really dropped it, it´s a shame...

Quoting stipica (Reply 12):
"In the golden years" during the summer we had ČSA,SkyEurope (really missing) and SmartWings now we have only SmartWings ( 3 x weekly )...my plan is to go to Prague for 10 days,during July .... what can I expect from SmartWings LCC or charters ?

Good to hear you are visiting Prague! Hope you will enjoy it here   Smartwings is a typical low cost, you will fly a B735, food for purchase, normal crew. Regular LCC.

Have a great day!



Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
User currently offlineHonza From Czech Republic, joined May 2005, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5528 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 13):
you will fly a B735

...or maybe B738 of Travel Service (parent company), they swap them very often.


User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 892 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5391 times:

Good to focus on CIS countries and to use PRG as a SkyTeam gateway to Baku, Ashkabad, Almaty, Tashkent, Yerevan and Tbilissi. Frequencies must be increased to compete with Star Alliance. A319 is perfect.

Also to open new routes to Ukraine (back to Lvov, good news!) and Russia (Kazan, Novosibirsk, maybe Irkutsk, Sochi, Nijni-Novgorod).


User currently offlinestipica From Croatia, joined Feb 2011, 427 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5049 times:

Hello guys... thanks Checo77 and Honza...

Definitely new approach on croatian market ...

Discontinued all summer destinations (lack of equipment + new approach ) and start to compete with Malev and Lufthansa/Austrian/Croatia for connecting market from Zagreb...By increasing flights to 2x daily allows a better connection from Prague to the new destinations and offering better price than AirFrance...

ZAG-JFK ( not possible before ) 18.7-31.7 Business class

ČSA 1550 eur
Malev 2040 eur

Austrian 2863 eur
Swiss 2880 eur
AirFrance 2898 eur
Lufthansa 2912 eur

Star Alliance dominates on this market...finally a little competition...ČSA definitely needs A-332 for usa-asia this is my wet-dream too  

Sure I will Adam but I think 3 days is not enough for Prague my itinerary is 1 day Karlovy Vary , 3 days Prague and 6 days Ruzyne 

Stipica



Open your eyes and think
User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4566 times:

What a pity that CSA has not decided to restart flights to any UK airport. You may remember that over the years CSA has slowly wound down its UK operation. In previous years CSA used to serve numerous UK airports, eg LGW, LHR, STN, BHX, MAN, EDI and GLA.

A lot of people were surprised when CSA dropped LHR, one of its last UK destinations, in 2010.


User currently offlineJOE777 From Saudi Arabia, joined Mar 2011, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4441 times:

Quoting Checo77 (Thread starter):


.....Very interesting was the future prospects of new destinations. CSA said, they are analyzing and looking to start new routes in the Middle and Far East. The destinations mentioned are the following:

Rijad, Saudi Arabia
Tehran, Iran
Ashgabat, Turkmenistan
Bagdad, Iraq
and others...

Personally, I think that the PRG-RUH wouldn't be a very successful route. Would be OK for a once or twice weekly, but definitely not more. I don't think theres much traffic from both sides to fill the planes up.

PRG-BGW would definitely be a successful route at the moment! With the massive Iraqi/Arab population in Europe and the demand for that route, I definitely can see it a success and profitable. They can easily fill planes up if scheduled at a time with good connections.


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