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CXA "Limited Industrial Action" - July 3 2001  
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13756 posts, RR: 18
Posted (14 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

I avoided the word "strike" for fear of flamers of CXA. However, I think it is a strike. Maybe someone would like to direct me to a different direction???

ANyway, talks have failed but the unions have put the date back two days to restart talks

CXA is "disappointed"
Cathay Pacific media briefing on Pilots' Pay Dispute

Today the pilots' union leadership announced they would proceed with industrial action against the company. This is regrettable. As we have stated before, productive negotiations are impossible as long as the threat of disruption remains in place.
Our position is simple and firm. There is a generous and comprehensive agreement before the AOA leadership that provides for significant improvements in pay, benefits and rosters. It is the HKAOA leadership's choice whether or not to accept this deal. This proposal will remain on the table through tomorrow 30 June.
Furthermore, any agreement entered by the company with the AOA must include a firm commitment to avert any future industrial action through the four-year term of the agreement.
Rather than negotiate over substantive issues, the AOA has made a sideshow of the data request. The data request is a ploy, a diversionary gimmick. During the negotiations, the AOA has never presented a meaningful counterproposal. This call for data is just the latest excuse to walk away from the talks.
The data is just the means to an end. The difference between the two sides on the topic of overtime is not about the data, it is a fundamental difference of principle. To explain it by way of an example, imagine someone is contracted to work a five-day week. Then for whatever reason your manager allows you to take most Fridays off. If at some later date, your manager asks you to work a full Friday, is it reasonable to expect to be paid overtime for working that Friday? Of course not. This is the fundamental difference that no amount of data will change.
Giving the AOA the data will not bring us any closer to an agreement. What is more important is to focus on the real issue at hand. We have a comprehensive proposal on the table that offers meaningful improvements in the areas of pay and benefits and roster stability.
I would like to again say an important word to our passengers and the people of Hong Kong. The AOA leadership has kept its Hong Kong disruption plan secret so it is difficult to predict the impact. Like a typhoon, it will be impossible to predict the timing or severity of the disruptions. But unlike a typhoon, these disruptions will be entirely manmade - by the leadership of the union.
As we have in the past, we will move heaven and earth to keep our passengers moving. We are prepared to charter aircraft and rebook passengers on other aircraft. For the moment, we will continue to operate normally and will take bookings on future flights. We encourage passengers to check the status of their flights before leaving for the airport using our Website or our telephone hotlines. We will provide ongoing updates on flight status via the media as well.
In closing, the AOA leadership's decision to commence industrial action is regrettable. We are committed to rewarding our pilots fairly. This proposal does just that, while averting disruption now and into the future. We hope the AOA leadership will act responsibly and bear in mind the best interests of Hong Kong, the airline, and its own members.
Cathay Pacific and its pilots' union are currently involved in a dispute over pay and benefits. The airline negotiated in good faith with the union at over 50 meetings. Talks between the two sides have currently reached an impasse. The union is currently threatening to launch industrial action from 3 July.

Currently the airline is operating a normal schedule and all flights remain open for booking. A contingency plan is in place to safeguard passengers' plans, and further details will be released as the situation develops.

We will update this information as often as possible. You may wish to check here again later.

Will there be a strike at Cathay Pacific from 3 July?
The pilots' union voted in favour of "limited industrial action" and are threatening to launch it on 3 July. However they have not yet revealed any more details of their plans. Cathay Pacific has contingency plans in place to minimise inconvenience to passengers should the union commence industrial action.

Can I still book tickets to travel on Cathay Pacific in July?
We are operating a full schedule and still accepting bookings. We remain hopeful industrial action can be avoided. If industrial action does occur however, we will do all we can to help passengers get to their chosen destinations as speedily as possible.

What will happen to my bookings if there is industrial action?
If industrial action does occur it is likely it will take the form of delays rather than cancelled flights. Whatever the case, we will make every effort to ensure that passengers get to their chosen destinations with minimum inconvenience.

¡P What contingency plans are in place to protect passengers' plans?
We have a range of plans in place and are prepared to charter aircraft, and rebook passengers onto other airlines. Unfortunately as the union has kept its plans secret there is likely to be some degree of disruption initially. However our staff are briefed and will do all they can to help keep our passengers moving.

Would you contact me in advance if my flight was going to be disrupted?
We will make every effort to inform passengers in advance. We would suggest you check the latest flight details on our Website www.cathaypacific.com before you go to the airport or telephone your travel agent or local Cathay Pacific reservations office.

What is this dispute about?
Cathay Pacific and the pilots' union reached a three-year agreement on pay and benefits in June 1999. Although this agreement has another year to run the pilots' union has demanded pay and benefit rises of up to 32%. Cathay Pacific tabled a generous new offer including improvements in hourly pay, provident funds, housing allowances, education allowances, maternity leave and medical benefits. The union has rejected the offer.

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User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6812 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (14 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

A strike is when you refuse to turn up at work for the simple reason.....you refuse to work!! We will still be going to work on July 3rd....unless we are too stressed to work!
One captain was suspended already for a very minor thing, and others are victims of intimidation from the company. It all makes for a very tense atmosphere in the cockpit....not good at all.

User currently offlineLutfi From China, joined Sep 2000, 823 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (14 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1509 times:

The captain is back on roster.

But as you say, not good at all.

And why would the stress levels be any higher on the 3rd than the 2nd? It will just be seen as a cowardly way of striking, losing you even more sympathy.

And no, a strike is when you withhold your labor to settle specific grievances, and is subject to a legal process (e.g. strike can only be held after balloting all members).

Not turning up to work just because you refuse to work leads to dismissal anywhere in the world.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13756 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (14 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1501 times:

So what is "limited industrial action"???

We'll see how it goes. It's the 30th June today, so they've got 3 days.

Let's see........

Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
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