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How Is Japan Traffic Affected?  
User currently offlinetommytoyz From Tonga, joined Jan 2007, 1353 posts, RR: 5
Posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9748 times:

With all of the unfortunate events in Japan, does anyone have any information on how these events are impacting air service?

37 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinestandby87 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2001, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 9491 times:

I only know that Swiss are operating Zurich ZRH to Narita Tokyo....but retimed flights stopping in Hong Kong for Crew Change.

Reason: not possible to "slip" crew in Tokyo right now.


User currently offlinedirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1697 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9362 times:

MS had previously announced (before the earthquake) that it would not be resuming CAI-KIX/NRT for Summer 2011, mainly due to low anticipated tourist demand following the Revolution. If the situation in Japan rebounds quickly, and there aren't more problems in Egypt that would impact the tourism industry, then we could see MS back in Japan next fall.
Prior to the revolution, I believe MS was either daily or 6x weekly to both NRT and KIX using 77Ws and 77Es.


User currently offlineburkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4401 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9337 times:

LH 3 daily flights are operating, but delayed I read. LH 711 A380 stops in Seoul-Incheon. Crew change and maybe fuel? Will be 7 hours late.

User currently offlineOEH68 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9285 times:

BA's flights to NRT and HND are running as normal.


OEH68
User currently offlinemacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1058 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9278 times:

OS changed the flight shedule and added a stopover in ICN for crew change.


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User currently offlinestandby87 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2001, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9059 times:

Quoting directorguy (Reply 2):
If the situation in Japan rebounds quickly,

I don't think that's going to happen.
Not this year...


User currently offlinea380forana From Japan, joined Jan 2008, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9029 times:

AF to/from Tokyo are operated via Seoul Incheon for crew changes
All flights downgauged to B777-200ER instead of A380-800 or B777-300ER
http://www.airfrance.co.jp/cgi-bin/A...common/home/home/HomePageAction.do


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6732 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8779 times:

I guess one of the problems at the moment is that a lot more people want to get out than in.


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User currently offlinerobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8768 times:

As reported by some German sources Lufthansa will start to check all incoming planes from Japan for radiation at their FRA and MUC bases.

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8674 times:

Quoting a380forana (Reply 7):
AF to/from Tokyo are operated via Seoul Incheon for crew changes
All flights downgauged to B777-200ER instead of A380-800 or B777-300ER
AF 276 today is operated via ICN. AF278 tonight is still scheduled nonstop ... but starting tomorrow Mar.15, the 2 x Daily AF flights AF276/275 & AF278/277 will be routed via ICN for a crew change.

On AF276/275, the A380 is replaced by a B77W as AF was not authorized by the Korean authorities to operate the A380 in & out of ICN.
Idem for LH who replaced the A380 by an A346.

[Edited 2011-03-14 09:55:45]

User currently offlinetommytoyz From Tonga, joined Jan 2007, 1353 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8352 times:

I assume perhaps fuel availability may be an issue and airlines may not want their crews staying overnight in Japan. Sad situation. This will no doubt hurt Japanese carriers financially.

User currently offlinedairy From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8021 times:

LX effected a revised schedule for services to and from Tokyo from 14 March 2011 until further notice.
Flights to and from Tokyo Narita will niw inlcude an interim stop in Hong Kong.

Passengers originally booked on a non-stop flight (LX 160/161) between Zurich and Tokyo Narita will be automatically rebooked on the new flight with an interim stop in Hong Kong (LX 2762/2763).

[Edited 2011-03-14 17:40:07]


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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4840 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7985 times:

QF and NZ are both operating as per normal however NZ has said the combination of the CHC earthquake with the Japan earthquake will halve its profit this year (CHC is its 2nd or 3rd biggest domestic airport and Japan is an important international market for it).

As for Japan itself, apparently there are jetfuel shortages in parts of the country.



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7752 times:

JL17 from YVR to NRT was running 2.25 hours late today. AC3 was just 10 mins late.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7268 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 14):
JL17 from YVR to NRT was running 2.25 hours late today. AC3 was just 10 mins late.

And AC1 YYZ-NRT is 10 minutes early.


User currently offlinecarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6926 times:

Domestically, airlines are running pretty much the same schedule with the exception to/from Sendai Airport.
Western Japan is largely unaffected.
There have been additional flights into nearby airports such as Yamagata and Fukushima.

Both Tokyo airports are running normally. The biggest economical issue is the electrical situation in the Tokyo and eastern Japan region. If things do not stabilize, there will be enormous economical consequences.


User currently onlineha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3663 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5866 times:
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I've been hearing of a possible fuel shortage at NRT at work. Many refineries did suffer damage just from the earthquake and shut down. It looks like there is enough fuel for 2 days of operations if no new fuel is delivered.

Passenger wise, I have been seeing a 40-50% drop in the pax count on flights coming from Japan. One flight arrived with only 78 pax.


User currently offlineFRACO7X From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5522 times:

Today LH710 will be rerouted via ICN to NGO.

And LH714 via ICN to KIX

[Edited 2011-03-15 03:27:17]

User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5450 times:

While re-routing from Europe via ICN to NRT (or HND / KIX / NGO) is a logical solution when looking at the Creat Circle, I wonder why LX is routing via HKG but not via ICN.

Distances:
ZRH - NRT = 5976 mi
ZRH - ICN - NRT = 6229 mi (+ 4.2 %)
ZRH - HKG - NRT = 7618 mi (+ 27.5 %)

And please do not tell me "LX has no ground staff to handle pax and aircraft at ICN". ICN is a LH-station and they should be well able to handle sister LX´s single aircraft a day.

Traffic rights maybe ?


Anyhow, if this situation continues it looks like I will be able to see a number of extra a/c at ICN during my upcoming trip there ..
-HT



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7415 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

Quoting FRACO7X (Reply 18):
Today LH710 will be rerouted via ICN to NGO.

And LH714 via ICN to KIX

AF flights to KIX are still nonstop from/to CDG.

Only the 2 x Daily flights to/from NRT are, like LH, routed via ICN, at least until March 20.


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7311 posts, RR: 85
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5125 times:
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LH is scanning all a/c arriving from Japan for radiation.


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User currently offlinedairy From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4892 times:

Quoting HT (Reply 19):
And please do not tell me "LX has no ground staff to handle pax and aircraft at ICN". ICN is a LH-station and they should be well able to handle sister LX´s single aircraft a day.

Traffic rights maybe ?

But: LX has no ground staff at ICN!  
It is much cheaper for LX to handle the flight via HKG
Of course LH-staff could handle the flight, but in LX's view this does not mean, that they also should.



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User currently offlineCOEWR787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 337 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4822 times:

CO 8 NRT - EWR and CO 6 NRT - IAH both appear to be on time, and is estimated to arrive on time into EWR and IAH respectively today.

User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4564 times:

LH no longer flies to NRT according to their homepage.
All flights go to either KIX or NGO, many via ICN.
Special timetable shall be valid until upcoming weekend at least.

1.) Special schedule 16.03.2011 - 17.03.2011

Routing Flight number Departure (local time) Arrival (local time)
16.03.2011
Frankfurt - Seoul - Nagoya LH 710 13:30 h 11:10 h +1
Frankfurt - Seoul- Osaka LH 740 14:20 h 11:55 h +1
Munich - Seoul - Osaka LH 714 15:35 h 13:35 h +1
Osaka - Frankfurt LH 741 11:15 h 15:30 h
Nagoya - Frankfurt LH 737 11:35 h 15:55 h
Nagoya - Seoul - Frankfurt LH 711 13:35 h 04:05 h +1
Osaka - Seoul - Munich LH 715 15:35 h 22:50 h
17.03.2011
Frankfurt - Seoul - Nagoya LH 710 13:30 h 11:00 h +1
Frankfurt - Seoul - Osaka LH 740 14:20 h 11:50 h +1
München - Seoul - Osaka LH 714 15:35 h 13:15 h +1
Nagoya - Seoul - Frankfurt LH 711 13:05 h 04:05 h +1
Osaka - Seoul - Frankfurt LH 741 12:55 h 20:05 h
Osaka - Seoul - München LH 715 15:35 h 22:55 h


-HT



Carpe diem ! Life is too short to waste your time ! Keep in mind, that today is the first day of the rest of your life !
25 ZRH : This is one reason. The other is that with the stop in HKG they always can decide to cancel the last leg to NRT when when things get worse.
26 airbuseric : KLM is keeping the crews in KIX now (not in NRT) and rerouting it's AMS-NRT flights to KIX instead.
27 VV701 : As previously stated BA are operating a frull direct service to Japan. Howevewr they are giving passengers who are booked to fly before 10 April a cou
28 HELyes : Finnair serve NRT, KIX and NGO normally, but rebooking and refund possible.
29 FlySSC : It is interesting to see that the reaction of Airlines to the situation in Japan is very different from one to another ... : LH is now serving NGO and
30 burkhard : Really depends on the amount of risk they are willing to take, and the public opinion in their costumors countries. The risk of further bigger explos
31 VV701 : BA's daily flight to HND is also operating normally.
32 coolfish1103 : I wouldn't be surprised if SQ reverts it's plan of using 388 on SIN-NRT-LAX and not return the 388 on SIN-NRT as well.
33 Post contains links theginge : http://www.britishairways.com/travel...lightops/public/en_gb?p_faqid=4183 BA Narita flights are going to route through Hong Kong.
34 ZRH : SWISS now flies to Osaka instead of Tokyo, from Facebook:
35 Viscount724 : AC has added a technical stop at KIX so crews can stay there rather than NRT. Flights operate YVR-NRT-KIX-YVR and YYZ-NRT-KIX-YYZ. Means about a 3 hou
36 MileHighOffice : There is a "flight watch alert" regarding a radioactive "cloud". Captain showed me this on something that looked like a big receipt printout. Came fro
37 HT : Likely the smoke from reactor #3 which produced grey smoke earlier today. -HT
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