SA365C1 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 131 posts, RR: 0 Posted (14 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2487 times:
Just wondering what you guys think not meant as a Airbus v Boeing war but I wonder where Boeing go from here :
Boeing 707 - DEAD
Boeing 717 - Hardly anyone wants it
Boeing 727 - DEAD
Boeing 737 - Stretched to capacity orders will dry up
Boeing 747 - DYING
Boeing 757 - Had its day, stretched but hardly anyone wants it
Boeing 767 - Had its day, stretched but hardly anyone wants it
Boeing 777 - Very Good Aeroplane is Boeings only weapon
But if you compare that to Airbus the orders they are getting right now for A318/319/320/321/330/340/380 are phonomenal and I just wonder if Boeing will respond with new aeroplanes some time soon that can compete on all aspects of the market.
Don't get me wrong I actually like Boeing but you cant help but think they have had their day.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13605 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (14 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2460 times:
I don't think that Boeing have had their day, but they may move away from direct competition with every Airbus product, as we have seen with the abandonment of the 747X.
If the Sonic Cruiser is a viable project, then the future Boeing family may take a different course to Airbus.
The biggest factor keeping Boeing in the airliner game is the airlines themselves, they don't want to be reliant on just one major plane maker. Ironically, if Airbus had not happened, that's what Boeing would have been for many years by now.
You wouldn't be seeing much innovation then.
OO-VEG From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 1232 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (14 years 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2455 times:
The 747 is not Dying, but it is getting old..
The 737 is the best selling aircraft so far (77 orders this year)and still very popular. Boeings, strongest weapon
757... 41 orders this year 2nd best sold Boeing aircraft.
767... 24 orders this year 3th best sold Boeing aircraft
777 very good aircraft
Bokratensa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2451 times:
I wonder how could Boeing be dead I'm taking a trip to Australia this summer, stopping in SIN and KUL. All of the airplanes I will be flying are Boeing’s (Mostly 777. the others are 747 + 767.) But that says nothing about the future!
Airbus orders record is also impressive. They claim to have captured 53% of last year's orders for the A320 and A330/A340 markets. They also claim to have doubled their YTD orders by 175 new planes in Paris Le Bourget air show. Don't get me wrong, 777/747 are still my favorites. But to tell you the truth, there are no more tricks up old Mr. Boeing’s sleeves.
As for the Sonic Cruiser, you have a nice 3D animation running against 18 firm orders, with delivery in 2006 (A380 that is) Even if Sonic Cruiser became a success, it would not fill the short to medium range market which Airbus is eating.
Dynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1896 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (14 years 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2421 times:
IMO, Boeing has the history on its side. Boeing wasn't the first to develop jet aircraft, but they ended up with the first financially successful jet, the B707. Boeing wasn't the first to develop a trijet, but Boeing has the only financially successful trijet, the B727. Boeing didn't fare well on the short-haul market against the DC-9. But after the deregulation in the US, Boeing upgraded the B737 and beat the DC-9 and its successor, the MD-80, hands down. In fact, the B737 is the most widely sold aircraft in the jet aircraft history. Boeing wasn't the first to develop a widebody twin. But the B767 won the battle against the A300/310. Boeing had a void in the 300 seater market. But since Boeing launched the B777, it has been winning the battle against the A330-300 and all theA340 models.
Now, the B767 is not doing well against the A330-200. The A380 has stolen the limelight from B747. Boeing isn't sitting still. Based on their past record, I think they will have a good chance to recover.
B767-400er From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2000, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2405 times:
Sorry to be off topic, but it is very nice to see that we can discuess such sensitive issue without it turning into a A vs. B war. I guess the "war-starters" have either gone somewhere else, or got tired of it.
AirbusBasher! From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 11 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2379 times:
Well, the name says my what i think. Dont diss on Boeing! People are always talking crap on boeing! i read this forum before i joined and i saw a lot of people bashing boeing thats why i made this name