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Irish 7/11: New Hope In The Air?  
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12407 posts, RR: 37
Posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 14071 times:

Good morning folks; time for the next thread I think!

With a new minister having moved in at Kildare Street, it looks like a much needed injection of fresh air and energy, after the staidness of the previous administration. It's sad to have to say that having someone young, angry and let's face, someone who seems to know his backside from his elbow, is actually a novelty in this very important role, but that's the way it is. I don't want to be cruel to someone who has just retired from politics, but I'm just trying to think of one constructive, positive and useful thing that his predecessor did in three years ... and I can't.

It's great to see also that Tourism is back with Transport; which they were moved apart, I'll never know; stupid idea.

In other news, of course, we also saw our first sight of EI-DVM, which is likely to become the most photographed Irish airliner ever! I'm certainly looking forward to heading out to the airport with the camera!

The appointment of LV as Minister for Transport has injected new hope into the possibility of an AI hub at DUB; our minister is out there now and with effective lobbying at ministerial level, possibly even at Taoiseach/PM level, we might be in with a shout there. Let's hope! It's an embryonic market for us, but a hugely important one and given the state of our economy now, we absolutely need to push this as hard as we possibly can.

MO'L, of course, is banging on about the Metro and it will be interesting to see how LV handles these kinds of puerile attacks, which - frankly - at this stage, are becoming quite old and boring.

So, we start 7/11 with a lot of enthusiasm and excitement, something not felt for a long time. Good luck, LV, and let this be the most successful tenure in this history of this department! It certainly needs to be.

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User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26844 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 13994 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
The appointment of LV as Minister for Transport has injected new hope into the possibility of an AI hub at DUB

Indeed we can only wait and see but if it does happen it will certainly be very interesting .

Another article this morning :

Air India mulls making Dublin airport its operational base

Varadkar said the thrust of his discussions with his Indian counterpart was to enhance cooperation in civil aviation to help both Indians travelling to North America and Irish going to Australia and Southeast Asia to stop over at Dublin or Delhi.

“A huge number of Irish travel to Australia and other parts of Asia through the Gulf. Now they will be able to go through Delhi,” he said.

http://www.business-standard.com/ind...rport-its-operational-base/428980/


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19188 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 13987 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
MO'L, of course, is banging on about the Metro and it will be interesting to see how LV handles these kinds of puerile attacks, which - frankly - at this stage, are becoming quite old and boring.

Then why pay any attention to it?! Repeatedly, you, and others, comment on his comments, beliefs, and outbursts. You say that they are 'old and boring'. I never read or listen to any of it.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26844 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 13956 times:

Good news for a Dublin based company  

Air China deal with Irish-based Datalex

Air china has chosen the Datalex Travel Distribution Platform for its domestic and international reservations online and in its call centres,

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...nance/2011/0318/1224292504655.html


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4158 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 13881 times:

Interesting as thats another airline rumoured to be talking to the DAA. not saying the two are linked obviously, just co-incidence.


Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26844 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 13860 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 4):
Interesting as thats another airline rumoured to be talking to the DAA. not saying the two are linked obviously, just co-incidence.

Indeed and Air China do have some tags on their EU routes. Maybe PEK-CDG-DUB-CDG-PEK would work or something similar with another EU airport.


User currently offlineMichaelEI From Ireland, joined Jan 2011, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 13828 times:

Looking at doing a DUB-GWY run the day after the LC finishes, with RE. About 70Euro rtn. which isn't bad, about the same as Irish Rail! I was wondering will it be on the ATR or the Dornier? I'd be delighted to get on the Dornier, but I don't know how long they're keeping it for!

User currently offlineHarpAndShamrock From Ireland, joined Mar 2011, 133 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 13637 times:

Quoting MichaelEI (Reply 6):
Looking at doing a DUB-GWY run the day after the LC finishes, with RE. About 70Euro rtn. which isn't bad, about the same as Irish Rail!

If you book in advance following the same conditions as you would with the flights, the train is an awful lot cheaper than that! As are the nonstop buses. Makes it clear why there were 10 passengers when I flew GWY-DUB last summer, and that was before Galways extra departure charge and during the Galway races! Its certainly a lot more fun than surface transport though.

In other "news", how long before we see a Ryanair advert making a reference to this story? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nham-Festival-protest-Ryanair.html

Quote:
A protester angered jockeys ran into the path of horses racing at the Cheltenham Festival yesterday in a one-man protest against Ryanair.
Brandishing a poster with the face of the budget airline's chief executive Michael O'Leary he dashed onto the course in front of 15-time champion jockey AP McCoy riding 3.20 Ryanair Chase winner Albertas Run.
His protest has been linked to a blogger's website, believed to be written by the protester, criticising the company for its sponsorship of horse racing rather than spending money on paying its staff better wages.



2011 so far: LX (4), FR (2), EI (2), BE (2) - 4004 miles
User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4158 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 13614 times:

Is anyone really surprised? Airlines always sponsor stuff their CEO's like. Its play money dressed up as an advertising budget.


Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6319 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 13538 times:

Airport alert as rogue passenger strolls past security and onto jet

A MAN has by-passed security at Dublin Airport and gained access to a plane in a serious security breach.

The man was not carrying any weapons, and did not pose any terrorist threat, but the incident has shaken officials at the airport.

It happened on February 4 when an Asian national boarded a CityJet flight bound for Charles De Gaulle Airport in Paris.

The breach was detected by cabin crew after they conducted a head-count inside the plane and found there was one extra passenger on board.


http://www.herald.ie/national-news/a...security-and-onto-jet-2584601.html

So there was apparently no danger to passengers but I'm amazed this person managed to get past security and then past the gate to get on board!


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 13514 times:
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Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 9):
So there was apparently no danger to passengers but I'm amazed this person managed to get past security and then past the gate to get on board!

Just goes to show no matter what sercuity enhancements are introduced, non of them are truly effective unless the security/airline staff are vigilant 100% of the time. Something that is almost important to ensure.



Next Flights: 27/06/14 CX 178 MEL-HKG; 28/06/14 CX 830 HKG-JFK; 04/07/14 EI 134 BOS-SNN
User currently offlinethediplomat From Ireland, joined Jun 2006, 382 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 13516 times:

Which airports will Obama use for his visit? DUB and SNN as usual?

User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1436 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13483 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 9):
Airport alert as rogue passenger strolls past security and onto jet

Something doesn't quite add up here....

"The breach was detected by cabin crew after they conducted a head-count inside the plane and found there was one extra passenger on board"

But yet....

"A spokesperson for CityJet said proper procedures were followed"

and...

"The passenger was denied boarding by CityJet Cabin Crew".

If the passenger in question was only discovered when Cabin Crew conducted a head count well then it's blatantly obvious that proper procedures were not followed and that he wasn't denied boarding, as CityJet claim.

The headline is also misleading. I don't believe for a minute that a passenger managed to simply "stroll past security". What most likely happened was he wasn't asked to present his boarding pass prior to security (for whatever reason) and then subsequently proceeded to security screening. How he managed to escape past the gate agents is quite a mystery. Then again, maybe he was indeed denied boarding as CityJet claim. Whatever the case, discrepancies clearly exist in that report.


User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26844 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13473 times:

DAA awards €1m hosting contract to Data Electronics

Dublin Airport Authority, which is in the process of a €400,000 virtualisation investment, has awarded a contract worth more than €1m to Irish data centre firm Data Electronics to support the airport’s online business platform.

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/strat.../item/20967-daa-awards-1m-hosting/

Its good to see more positive news for Irish based companies   


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3915 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13427 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 10):
non of them are truly effective unless the security/airline staff are vigilant 100% of the time. Something that is almost important to ensure.

Maybe a system like MAN where you have to scan your boarding pass/card to gain access to a physical turn-style/gate to progress through security would help. All BP's are again scanned at the gate, in addition to being torn. Seems like a more secure way to me.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26844 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 13358 times:

My recent Swiss trip from Dublin can be seen here :

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/LXMAR/013_800x600.jpg

Swiss J Class DUB-ZRH-ATH-ZRH-DUB + Lounges W/PICS (by oa260 Mar 18 2011 in Trip Reports)

The Chocolate cafe in Terminal 2 make for some good spotting and pics  


User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 13292 times:
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Just to add to the post March 17th banter/critiques:

EI gave all its pax on Euro flights a small shamrock shaped chocolate as they disembarked. Its a very small thing but still nice to acknowledge the date.


User currently offlineauntie From Ireland, joined Jan 2009, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 13233 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 16):
EI gave all its pax on Euro flights a small shamrock shaped chocolate as they disembarked. Its a very small thing but still nice to acknowledge the date.

Not on the UK flights though ?!  

I took 2 EI flights yesterday to/from MAN. On the early morning flight, there wasn't a mention of the day that was in it, except when the crew did the post landing bit and at the end she said "Beannachtai libh go leir ........ oh and ........ La feile Padraig" !

By the evening flight, the cabin crew were all wearing shamrock and even the captain threw in the cupla focal as gaeilge.

No shamrock shaped chocolate though - disappointed  

--

On a completely unrelated note, I spent the day yesterday at the Aviation Viewing Park at MAN. It's a fantastic facility and I cannot recommend it highly enough to anyone who hasn't been. How I wish we had something like that at DUB


User currently offlinescarebus03 From Ireland, joined Apr 2005, 303 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 13225 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 16):
EI gave all its pax on Euro flights a small shamrock shaped chocolate as they disembarked. Its a very small thing but still nice to acknowledge the date.

Not on the EI564 they didn't! Was it inbound flights only?

Brgds
SB03



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User currently offlineEagleboy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 13158 times:
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I believe it was on all shorthaul flights into Dublin.

Maybe the MAN-DUB flight was too short to give them enroute?

I actually looked for and didn't spot any shamrock yesterday myself, now saying that, I looked in 3 spars/centra enroute from 1 bus to the other.

To compare with the EI retro jet livery a mate recently took this photo of an ex-LH B707:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tearbringer/5538581316/


User currently offlineHarpAndShamrock From Ireland, joined Mar 2011, 133 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (3 years 4 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 13121 times:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 19):
Maybe the MAN-DUB flight was too short to give them enroute?

Thats lazy Aer Lingus Cabin Crew for you. Ryanair crew can do a full trolley, duty free and scratchcard service on those flights in that time, they'd fit in free chocolates no bother.   

Seriously though, little touches like these could make a big difference in the battle to "not be Ryanair". I flew BHX-ZRH-HAJ return last month, and if you asked me what I remember, or what I enjoyed about those flights, I actually felt much better about my little swiss chocolate than the rock hard sandwich!



2011 so far: LX (4), FR (2), EI (2), BE (2) - 4004 miles
User currently offlineoa260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26844 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (3 years 4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13021 times:

Quoting HarpAndShamrock (Reply 20):
Thats lazy Aer Lingus Cabin Crew for you. Ryanair crew can do a full trolley, duty free and scratchcard service on those flights in that time, they'd fit in free chocolates no bother.   

The chocs would be free but the wrapper would be EUR2    
Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 19):
To compare with the EI retro jet livery a mate recently took this photo of an ex-LH B707:

Thats great to see all the retro stuff coming back  


User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 4 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12993 times:

While landing back in Dublin last night I spotted (briefly) a BA A319 or A320 aircraft on the remotes over by the fire station, anybody know why it was there? (divert or charter?)

Pilot21



Aircraft I've flown: A300/A310/A320/A321/A330/A340/B727/B732/B733/B734/B735/B738/B741/B742/B744/DC10/MD80/IL62/Bae146/AR
User currently offlineEireRock From Ireland, joined Nov 2007, 301 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (3 years 4 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12937 times:

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 22):
While landing back in Dublin last night I spotted (briefly) a BA A319 or A320 aircraft on the remotes over by the fire station, anybody know why it was there? (divert or charter?)

Most likely carrying the English rugby team for todays match, theres another BA flight due in around 12.30 also. For info i think its an A321 parked on the West Apron.


User currently offlineSURFER From Ireland, joined May 2008, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 4 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12912 times:

Quoting thediplomat (Reply 11):
Which airports will Obama use for his visit? DUB and SNN as usual?

They will more than likely drop Obama in DUB and re-position the aircraft and back-up etc to SNN this is due to the fact SNN has the higher level of security approved by the US gov for their flights.Thats why anytime there is a big US politician in town the SAM aircraft always drops them in DUB and comes down to SNN for the overnight stay.

Interesting one for spotters in SNN next thursday evening,a Honduras owned L1011 is tech stopping doing a charter from Budapest.HR-AVN

http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...edesc&siteurl=www.airliners.net%2F


25 shamrock321 : Its a BA A321 and carried supporters only. BMI are an official sponsor of English rugby so the team few with them! Nice to see it tough!
26 Post contains links Eagleboy : Indeed it was..... http://www.flickr.com/photos/elevationair/5537848077/in/contacts/
27 Post contains images kaitak : I'm guessing the mood on that flight will be a tad sombre this evening!
28 Post contains images oa260 : Yes sadly Still was nice to see some BA metal back on Irish soil again its sorely missed. !
29 shamrock604 : Well, should EI join star, and BD pull Dublin as expected, BA Might be back sooner than we think.
30 Post contains images oa260 : If EI joined Star and BD pulled out I cant say Id be that bothered really. The new GC lounge and being able to earn and burn Star miles on EI would mo
31 Post contains images lasno : Does SNN not count as Irish soil
32 Post contains images aerdingus : Tell me about it. I was in BCN last week, the have a stand for spotters. The approach lights are right in front of you, heavies like SQ, PK, AV.....
33 Post contains images shamrock604 : Of course not lasno, its the independent republic of munster!!!
34 BrianDromey : Dream come true! I think there are significant questions about EI and alliances. It has been stated that the revenue is roughly equal coming from all
35 thediplomat : Don't underestimate Skyteam in Asia. If consider Asia to be south east asia, I agree - however the dynamics are moving north, and east. China Souther
36 styles9002 : Yikes...faux pas
37 Eagleboy : I disagree Brian. I think it is between OW and STAR. -OW can utilise EI as a link with IB and BA. DUB could take some of the northern UK traffic headi
38 LuftyMatt : I'm sure I read a comment on this forum recently that said EY flew twice a day from AUH to DUB. Is this the case? I was aware of only the daily servic
39 shamrock604 : Its twice daily on 4 days per week.
40 LuftyMatt : ok thank you. Sounds like the AUH route is doing well then, any chance of twice a day?
41 shamrock604 : Its been spoken about by CEO of EY, yes. My guess is we will see it for 2012.
42 ClassicLover : Yes, almost all of mine is too. What makes me sad is that you don't get any kind of Gold Circle club earnings on the lower fares. If it was possible,
43 greenjet : Does anyone know if EI-DVM will go into service the day or two after it is delivered? I presume it is still on course for delivery on Thursday. I noti
44 BrianDromey : I know what you mean. The "best" fares did offer the opportunity to buy up to an earning class, but seems to have been discontinued now. Even if they
45 shamrock321 : EY operate 10 weekly flights, the AUH flight is double daily only 3 days a week, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday. The BA A321 is still at DUB will retur
46 Post contains links thediplomat : Fantastic Tourism Ireland promotion in Australia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxEB48jY3F8 420k views in three days. Making Terminal 2 an Indian airl
47 shamrocka330 : I noticed this on the planefinder app on the iPhone - the height and routing were odd so I assumed it was a go around. Anyone know why? Don't know if
48 EISHN : Does anyone know who the Taoiseach and Tanaiste flew to the States with?
49 eicvd : Themselves on the Gulfstream or Learjet probably.
50 aerdingus : Was in DUB yesterday morning @ around 10am. Saw a Chinese 737 near where all the bizjets are, anyone know what it was? An ex-FR aircraft? Thanks
51 kaitak : Quite possibly; when I came home at Christmas, there was an ex-FR 738 parked around by Pier D and it was going to one of the Chinese carriers; it had
52 thediplomat : i think they are going to Shenzen air.
53 eicvd : The a/c in OA's latest TR is in OK airlines livery & they have acquired a couple of ex FR birds already.
54 eicvd : Tech stop in Iceland or Canada maybe? Almost certain I read somewhere that the two of them flew on an Air Corps plane.
55 Post contains links Eagleboy : There were 2 of them there last week. I think 3-4 of the ex-FR birds have been repainted as well as at least 1 ex-Easyjet Swiss B737. Dublin Aerospac
56 Post contains links and images oa260 : Is this the one :
57 Post contains images aerdingus : Thanks everyone, was different & interesting to see. Yep that's the one. Going to read the TR now.
58 shamrock321 : There is 2 of those 737s there aswell as a Sun Express one still registered EI-DAY.
59 eicvd : That is the one indeed. Great trip report as usual by the way.
60 Post contains links EIBusiness : Fantastic shot there! With regard to the whole issue of EI's eventual chosen alliance.. Firstly - it's clear I think, from reading the latest publish
61 AmricanShamrok : Kenny and Gilmore flew on one of the Government jets and the rest of the ministers flew on commercial airline flights. All those travelling within Eu
62 Post contains images 330guy : Never go spotting without them, if ever I'm about to go home I check it to make sure nothing interesting is on the way, gone are the days of turning
63 Post contains images HarpAndShamrock : I seem to recall the Government press office claiming that Mary Harney flew Premium Economy to New Zealand last year, on Etihad. Remarkably, the news
64 Eagleboy : As in it was actually Business Class? Do EY have Premium Y? Personally I do not have a problem with ministers travelling in Business Class on longhau
65 EISHN : Cheers lads. Um, something tells me she wouldn't be able to fly in business class on Etihad....
66 HarpAndShamrock : I suspect she'd certainly struggle with any airline with herringbone business class seats anyway! But no, Etihad doesn't have Premium Economy, so she
67 shamrock604 : If you are on business, you should be permitted to fly J class, as you wont have much time to get over jetlag, and so onboard sleep is essential.
68 tonymctigue : I will have to take a trip down to SNN to see AF1 while she is there. I suppose there is probably a good chance Obama will fly into DUB and back out
69 dstc47 : Depends on what the "assistants" are doing, usually those senior officials do all the work on official missions, and the Minister just turns up for t
70 BrianDromey : Also, something to bear in mind, J class is often not much more, or perhaps cheaper than full fare Y, depending on when the ticket was purchased, who
71 eicvd : There is a few Europe Airpost flights due in to DUB today (2x CDG, 1x LYS). Anyone have a clue why?
72 shamrock604 : I must say I am surprised but impressed at how Mr Varadkar has leapt on the issue of getting AI to Dublin, and gaining some great access to a huge eme
73 thediplomat : As one of the few viable semi-state companies, the DAA, (or parts of the DAA) must be in the (pardon the theft of a sarah palin quote) crosshairs of
74 OA260 : I agree coming from a mixed background and having worked overseas he is certainly well placed to have a well rounded view. The Indian link is of cour
75 Post contains images shamrock604 : Well, there has been a slight increase in EI destinations, which may be enough to convince the government that at least EI is doing something. With F
76 thediplomat : I agree 100%, but he at least subscribes to the nothing ventured nothing gained perspective to this issue. Very impressed too.
77 shamrock604 : I found a few points about his visit interesting - namely the Metro trip to the airport and the tour of the Airport itself. Im glad he has now seen f
78 thediplomat : Not just that - some of the posts go way past what is legally acceptable to say about a person or company - but moderation doesn't take place it seem
79 Post contains links Eagleboy : I can't believe people still think they can impose a new stopover on free market business. Must start checking out that site for amusement purpose! Y
80 kaitak : True; regression gets us nowhere. The solution to SNN's problem lies with improving the attractiveness of the area to tourists and improving marketin
81 Eagleboy : Just read on another site that the EI T2 lounge will open tomorrow morning.[Edited 2011-03-22 06:02:40]
82 tonymctigue : The mere fact that the idiotic ranting of backwards eigets like those who post on the aformentioned forum has been brought up on this forum is giving
83 EIDAA : For those interested, with thanks to the Irish Spotters email group... EI-ORD is scheduled to be ferried from BOD to GWO on March 29th, where it is to
84 AmricanShamrok : I know a good few people who do this; give out about the lack of service from Shannon and then hop on a plane from Dublin to London. And whatever my
85 tonymctigue : Same as. I've frequently paid a premium to fly from SNN as well as making a few additional stops in order to be able to include SNN on my itinerary.
86 shamrock604 : Great to see that you both "put your money where your mouth is" and support the airport. Too many people spout off, yet when push comes to shove, will
87 330guy : Iv had many a good flights on this bird, Including one to ORD itself, Am I the only one who get a slightly sad feeling when I hear of an aircraft bei
88 tonymctigue : I think every aircraft enthusiast sheads a tear when they hear of an aircraft being scrapped. Especially when it is one that they've flown on. One of
89 EIBusiness : The problem with the comments on that site also is that they sadly are reflective of a larger wharped, retrogressive, misinformed and insular public
90 shamrock604 : I was just doing the math also EIBusiness, and barring the scrapping of IAD-MAD, there is no room for any growth on long haul with the 330 fleet. It w
91 Post contains images Phen : Me too - its especially sad to see all of the original A333s gone now and as someone said earlier, EI-LAX is now the only A330 left with an airport c
92 HarpAndShamrock : While that is broadly true, there are some cases where using a slightly further airport rather than your local one can give huge savings. For example
93 Post contains images shamrock604 : Understood, but im sure you dont spout off about mandating airlines to fly Birmingham, doing deals with the devil etc etc like some of the SNN mafia
94 EIBusiness : With the expected arrival of -DVM now close at hand - I thought it might be useful to consider which RWY might be in use on Thursday evening? T+45 fro
95 330guy : This never even registered with me, Surely they'll continue to use them on newer long haul aircraft when they get them.... Its become almost an EI tr
96 EIBusiness : Indeed - But if there's an additional charge for pre-selecting the REGs... Then the bean counters get involved and the rest is history as they say...
97 330guy : Tou Che haha
98 kaitak : Sorry, where is GWO? Certainly sad to see dear old 'ORD being scrapped. Did anyone find out what the maintenance issues were, that condemned her? If
99 callbell : EI-DAA is still in the fleet.
100 Eagleboy : I think we may well see the allocated A332 return to the fold at Dublin within the next 12 months. So maybe a bit of longhaul expansion for Summer 20
101 shamrock604 : I had that feeling also - when the arrangement wasnt expanded as thought some time ago, I thought that perhaps the writing was on the wall. Realistic
102 QF108 : A question for the Dublin natives, with EI now fully in T2, my question is where do they park the overflow aircraft ?? If there are A330's that dont f
103 Eagleboy : Well T2 has 19 narrow body stands so the majority of the A320 DUB fleet can be held there overnight. No-one else is there from the 2nd EY departure t
104 330guy : The go to the west apron and around to the hangers for overnights, some EI flights will still use Pier D also during busy periods (i.e. morning rush
105 QF108 : Thanks for the fast reply Eagleboy and 330guy, and one more question if I can pinch your expertise please I have a copy of the airport chart to work
106 neutral : I flew out of Dublin 2 weeks ago at 7am and we departed from Pier B (300 gates) and there was 3 EI A320 at Pier B for the first wave of flights out o
107 Post contains links Eagleboy : Well Neutral has confirmed that EI are still using T1 gates for overflow. EI hanger is the largest one nearest the north-south road. Its the other sid
108 Post contains links AuleyAir : see the blue shaded area where EI hanger http://maps.google.ie/maps/ms?ie=UTF...709020321473.00049f2455ef2fc237f62
109 Post contains links Eagleboy : Heres an appropriate pic to say goodbye to an aircraft many of us have flown on: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tearbri...10918868/in/set-72157601140551
110 EIBusiness : Great shot there - fantastic angle! I'd very much agree. Announcements in relation to a second route that were mooted have not materialised. I read o
111 tonymctigue : Farewell St. Maebh. Always sad to hear of an aircraft making its final journey to the graveyard.
112 eicvd : Does anyone know what time RWY10/28 closes for mx at? 16 seemed to be in use after 2100 on monday night & a bit earlier last night. Planning on ta
113 shamrock350 : Had a nice flight on EI711 this morning, the weather in London and Cork was perfect for flying, clear skies all the way so great views and not a singl
114 AmricanShamrok : As of today all Continental Airlines flights to/from Ireland are guaranteed to feature flat-bed seats in BusinessFirst. All 757-200s have now been con
115 Eagleboy : Taken along with the Delta Economy Comfort the hard product bar has been raised on the Ireland-USA market. Lets see how the other carriers respond to
116 Post contains images OA260 : Thanks for that info , that may interest me for my USA trip later this year .
117 Post contains links and images gosimeon : Interestingly, Minister Leo Varadkar has published full details of his trip to India. He met with 12 Indian travel agents, the Minister for Tourism fo
118 QF108 : Thanks for all the help re EI and the EIDW operations team. Cheers
119 Ire2008 : Does the report not say 2 business class, Implying 2 business class tickets ie 3k each? Maybe Im reading it wrong? I dunno! Kevin
120 HarpAndShamrock : Yes, you have me there, I have no time at all for any of these regional pressure groups. Anti Dublin rhetoric was the bane of my life as a Dub studyi
121 OA260 : Mind you 6K is a drop in the ocean compared to the investment that could be generated. Money has been burnt on useless things by the previous ''regim
122 AmricanShamrok : This was a UA Facebook status so I said I'd share. Make sure to do a TR if you do go, be interesting to see a BusinessFirst report from Ireland!
123 Post contains images shamrock604 : Its Phil.... I'd be shocked if he DIDNT do a TR for us!
124 DavecFlyer : Good morning all I see that EI2533 is showing on Flight Explorer as due DUB at 17:53 this evening from Toulouse. I assume this is EI-DVM on delivery.
125 kaitak : Just wondering that; still plenty of light left, so plenty of time for good photos. Good luck to everyone going out there for a shot; who'll be first
126 Post contains links and images EI787 : Looking forward to seeing photos of DVM tonight! Couldn't be a nicer day for it! Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gBSy8HoBq0 The Nation
127 Post contains images OA260 : For sure , thanks again for that info it has really made a difference to my travel planning. I wanted to use CBP at DUB but didnt want a cradle seat
128 Post contains links CaptainMeeerkat : City of Derry Airport announce new Summer route to Paris http://www.highlandradio.com/2011/03...annouce-new-summer-route-to-paris/ "Flybe will be flyi
129 dstc47 : Amazing if Derry can support Paris flights when SNN cannot.. Good luck to them.
130 OA260 : I guess they will pick up passengers from the Donegal area also . Certainly great to see for a small regional airport like LDY .
131 Eagleboy : And using the E190 or Dash-8 would be more economical than a A320/B738 with a smaller market. Easyjet serve CDG from BFS, maybe they will lure some p
132 tonymctigue : SNN supported BVA for many years. FR only pulled the route in a hissy fit after the SAA refused point blank to give into their unresonable demands.
133 EIBusiness : Conditions should remain perfect for the arrival of -DVM this evening, pressure @ 1032-1033MB and winds E - 5-10 KNOTS - meaning RWY 10 will most like
134 sawtooth : That article is very misleading, it's a connecting option via their new MAN route. Flybe are offering several connecting routes including CDG from NO
135 HarpAndShamrock : Is it same flight though? I flew through T1 at CDG last year and there were 3 or 4 FlyBe flights on the boards, all of which were two stop flights e.
136 Post contains images HarpAndShamrock : Good to see some traditions live on! I was a member of this and other youth orchestras growing up and such things were very common, and a lot of fun.
137 SURFER : EI-DVM is en-route to DUB the CFMU is showing an arrival time of 1931
138 Post contains images OA260 : On its way guys
139 Post contains images ClassicLover : I'm flying DUB-LDY-DUB at Easter for a 2 night study break at the City Hotel Derry Can't wait to get up there and chillax with all my notes, plus che
140 shamrock321 : So shes here, and I toucher her first!
141 Post contains images OA260 : Derrys a cool city to party in . I worked there covering someone on leave once. I flew BHD-LDY on a Jersey European flight as they were called back t
142 Post contains links Eagleboy : It was worth it to hang around the airport after my shift today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTNcxa0xUiw
143 Post contains images OA260 : Well done looks great
144 EI564 : Er. Doesn't EI operates 3 times a week to CDG from SNN?
145 david_itl : New U2 route - BFS-MAN 2 daily from October 31st.
146 bestwestern : As expected. WWs move to BHD has allowed a third carrier onto this city pair.
147 shamrock350 : They do indeed, started in December. Hopefully it will do well in the summer and stick around for a while. Good news and not much of a surprise, appa
148 Post contains links EI787 : As we know, AA is restarting its DUB-ORD route on April 5th. An interesting point is that they are installing self-service check-in machines into T2.
149 shamrock604 : Even better news, its back year round also. Hopefully the rumours of them starting JFK will come to pass. It does seem a bit of overkill to install ch
150 Post contains links OA260 : Another article this morning about the AI / DAA. Not that we dont know it already but seems to be back in the media once again . Air India eyes Dublin
151 BrianDromey : I hope this does work out for the DAA. It would be a big political win for the government too and make runway 2 at DUB more viable. It would be inter
152 Post contains links EI787 : The retrojet was officially unveiled today: http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0326/aerlingus.html
153 330guy : Just back from BCN, DVM was parked at pier D and she certiantly looks well (from a distance anyway) I have to be honest tho, T2 was a bit of a let dow
154 Eagleboy : I read elsewhere that the 1st flight will be the inaugural DUB-STR-DUB route tomorrow. Nice touch that.
155 Post contains links gosimeon : Not the most important news, but Will Smith is making headlines for turning down an Aer Lingus flight in the last minute because he realised there was
156 shamrock604 : There's little to market for it anymore - the excessive UK APD on business class makes it uneconomic. A premium Y offer is all the market will take in
157 Phen : Very nice report just now on RTE News about EI-DVM featuring CM himself and about 10 cabin crew dressed in the various uniforms of EI since the 1940s.
158 AmricanShamrok : Strange arrival on the Knock boards this evening: Loganair LC863 17:15 SUMBURGH Landed 1653 Due to head back again tomorrow morning. Aer Arann will be
159 Post contains links shamrock350 : Here's a nice photo of the uniforms, very nice to see them all lined up like that. I think the current uniform is starting to look a bit dated, a slig
160 Post contains images oa260 : Yes I expect so would be amazing to see a day you could fly AI DUB-USA ! Im sure there would be plenty of aviation buffs wanting to get on it includi
161 wexfordflyer : You would think they could have lined up properly.
162 Eagleboy : I personally like the current uniform. However it does need a slight revamp. What about introducing a more tailored jacket and switching a crisp whit
163 AmricanShamrok : To be honest, I've seen a lot worse i.e. the Ryanair ones!
164 Post contains links and images Phen : http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0326/aerlingus.html#video
165 BrianDromey : I agree. The current uniform still cuts a dash, especially in the states. I distinctly remember the entire crew (including pilots) rocking up to EI-D
166 bestwestern : Dowdy - what a perfect description. Tyler Brulee described the EI uniform as flying with a building society a few years back.
167 LuftyMatt : Exactly! I couldn't agree more. I hope EI stay with their current uniform, it's stylish and stands out (in a good way.) I really like their new 60's
168 DavecFlyer : and it's on its way... ACARS mode: 1 Aircraft reg: EI-DVM [ ] Message label: ** Block id: @ Msg no: 07fc Flight id: EI0358 [DUB--STR] [Aer Lingus] Me
169 shamrock350 : I do like the Aer Lingus uniform, I love the fact it seems to change colour in different light conditions but I just think some aspects could do with
170 Post contains links and images IRISH251 : Here is EI-DVM departing for Stuttgart this morning: EI-DVM A320-214 in Aer Lingus "retro" livery by Irish251, on Flickr
171 bestwestern : Thanks for the great list Shamrok! Shows us how well served Ireland is. Always wondered why Bmi regional never flew this route. US airways to Chicago?
172 Post contains links and images bestwestern : El AL in Shannon in the '50s photo source http://dublin.mfa.gov.il
173 shamrock604 : The US flight is a one stop via PHL. Arkia have been doing DUB-TLV for a few years now with a very short season.
174 AmricanShamrok : Indeed; marketed as a "direct" flight by US routing DUB-PHL-ORD (US723/US722), similar to EI's DUB-SNN-BOS/SNN-DUB-ORD back in the day. As far as I k
175 BrianDromey : Ah now! I assume there is a "change of gauge" at PHL as well? I wouldn't consider this a "direct" service. It is a connection dressed up as something
176 shamrock604 : Yes, probably. CO did this to Houston, DL to tampa etc. I think its a fake too, dont know why they bother with it. Can be faster selling a connection
177 Post contains images oa260 : Me also stands out and is smart. BTW Happy 6th Bday Kev .. ''Doesnt time fly'' Very nice shot
178 sawtooth : I believe the route was pulled along with ORK following the crash.
179 AmricanShamrok : Still bookable on Manx2.com (twice-weekly)...
180 tonymctigue : I saw EI111 depart from RWY 06 at SNN yesterday. Good to see EI A330's back there again. Their absence didn't go unnoticed by us spotters (or politic
181 Post contains links oa260 : A different photo in this Irish Times article on the 75th Anniversary and EI-DVM Aer Lingus crew mark 75 years with vintage chic Aer Lingus is marking
182 Post contains links sawtooth : I stand corrected, one of the papers quoed MANX2 as saying it would end along with Cork route. I wonder if Manx2 have plans for Galway with the end o
183 BrianDromey : I agree with his stance on the efforts of Failte Ireland to market the country abroad. It's pretty poor, to be honest. I don't believe that NOC will
184 shamrock604 : Failte ireland have some fantastic tv ad campaigns - the problem is they are only aiming them at the home market. Its pretty poor form to do these fan
185 shamrock321 : Nice to see DVM around today! Seen her take off enroute to LHR on my way to work and ran into her again between LHR and CDG flights!
186 gosimeon : Agreed. Since moving to Frankfurt in July, I have seen countless adverts for Turkey, Hungary, Scotland, etc. etc. Billboard advertising for destinati
187 bestwestern : Does any airport with under 300k departing passengers have a service to either LHR or CDG?
188 tolmachevo : Here in Germany we have tv adds for Ireland, at the moment with an emphasis on Northern Ireland..but it changes once in a while...They are quite good
189 oa260 : Ah well I guess thats it for the moment unless something dramatic causes a change of heart : Once bitten, Air India shies away from Europe After the c
190 CaptainMeeerkat : Hey lads and lasses, Quick question that I hope you can answer. I'm trying to book flights from DUB-DME in May and found a cracking deal with Lufthy f
191 shamrock321 : Thank god this AI thing is settled, it was never going to happen, I said it all along!
192 eicvd : I second that statement.
193 BrianDromey : I can say 60 mins is fine for ZRH, shouldn't be a problem, at all. It is still a 'sporty' connection, but you won't need your running shoes! Im not s
194 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : I think that as long as you're booked on a single ticket, if you miss your connection the operating carrier is obliged to put you on a later flight (
195 CaptainMeeerkat : I want to book as soon as possible, prices are climbing every day unfortunately..the cheapest i found before changing my original dates was close to
196 oa260 : Very very tight !! Its 50/50 so if you just cant miss your onward flight then dont book it . FRA is not as quick as it used to be for connections. Yo
197 CaptainMeeerkat : Thanks for that Philip, is there a way of checking the gates, would they usually be the same? Maybe flightstats can show the usual ones but that is n
198 Post contains images oa260 : Maybe look at FRA website over the next few days and it usually shows the info , FRA website is quite detailed in their info as one would expect. The
199 greenjet : LHR has flights from Gibraltar and CDG has flights from Podgorica.
200 CaptainMeeerkat : Many thanks for all the help, much appreciated. I will find a longer connection as I don't want the hassle of missing my onward flight in DME. Cptn M
201 oa260 : No probs sorry to dampen the enthusiam lol.. but best to know the deal up front. Have you tried BMI Via LHR ?
202 shamrock321 : Im going to try and keep a log of all DVM flights, might be interesting! STR yesterday, LHR, CDG and MUC today!
203 EIBusiness : Absolutely. Whilst it was admirable to see Leo V working hard on behalf of the country - any expectation that this deal would occur was almost naive
204 Post contains links CaptainMeeerkat : Yes I tried them too and can get a deal for around the 250e mark also, but it is expensive on the dates I want. I've been using a site www.anywayanyd
205 shamrock604 : Strange, as apparently AI are coming to Dublin next week to talk things over with the DAA! It gets wierder by the minute! Best to move on from it now
206 Post contains links and images EI320 : Some fantastic pics from the official launch of EI-DVM on Saturday: Aer Lingus retrojet & Vintage uniforms by businesstraveller, on Flickr Aer Lin
207 Ire2008 : I never thought id see the day that Aer Lingus have a retro jet! Seemed like of those things other airlines did but not EI! Also I wonder will BA do a
208 shamrock604 : A 747 in BOAC livery would be very cool alright!
209 Post contains links and images EI2KSEA : British Airways recently painted their final B752 in its initial delivery color scheme just before its final departure after many years of service. A
210 Ire2008 : Funny thing is most of the public didnt probably notice, As its too recent! Kevin
211 tonymctigue : Any chance that EI-DVR will be rotated through SNN? Now that would be cool.
212 Post contains links oa260 : Some images from the new GC lounge : http://www.flickr.com/photos/38016434@N05/5569730912/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/38016434@N05/5569730904/in/pho
213 bestwestern : Is SNN LHR going A321 this summer?
214 oa260 : Looking at the current schedules it doesnt look as if it is unless its not updated yet.
215 Post contains links sawtooth : So there will be no PSO services operating for 6 months of this year. KIR-DUB will continue with the FR "day return" service. In reality it's not cle
216 Post contains links Eagleboy : That seems mad. With a bad seating position and dependant on the other pax, you could take 20 mins just to get off the inbound aircraft. I am sure th
217 EIBusiness : The full year report is going to make for some very interesting reading over the next while. I'm quite sure there are one or two less overt lines con
218 shamrock604 : SNN-LHR is often operated by a DUB based aircraft and crew so yes, it probably will be seen at SNN before too long!
219 AmricanShamrok : Is it me or does it look a bit generic? I remember seeing pictures of the old lounge with the frosted glass and old writing that you used to see on a
220 GullAirACK : Yowza! I never really thought of such costs but to see the figure for the first time it is eye watering! I presume the same for the Government fleet
221 tonymctigue : That is what I figured but I suppose it is almost impossible to say in advance where it will be but if someone who is "in the know" gets wind of EI-D
222 Post contains images HarpAndShamrock : I managed a 45 minute connection there last month quite comfortably, Non Schengen-Schengen and with both flights using Bus Gates! (BHX-ZRH-HAJ) Even
223 GullAirACK : I thought the photo op and Retro aircraft would make ALL Irish print and television news media. I was greatly disappointed at the poor coverage. The
224 Post contains links and images kaitak : They can include Amman on the publicity tour. Anyone see this article in today's Flight; I thought it was remarkably poor by FI's standard: http://ww
225 BrianDromey : I think the current PSO terms require 2x daily flights, one morning and one afternoon? So the FR service, as it currently stands does not meet those
226 EIBusiness : One or two other key points that jump to view from an initial reading of the annual report: - On the subject of partnerships and alliances: ''Were suc
227 styles9002 : My first impression is that it could be any airline's lounge at number of airports. I don't claim to be an overly artistic person but I am not gettin
228 Post contains links kaitak : OK, folks, Thread 8/11 is ready for boarding: next stop Delhi. Irish 8/11: Thuas San Aer (by kaitak Mar 29 2011 in Civil Aviation)
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