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Passenger Steals $238,000 From Air Antilies Flight  
User currently offlineCush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 254 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8249 times:

I think this is just an incredible story.... How did the passenger know that this large bulk of money would be on the flight? It seems a bit like an Oceans 11 story...

http://1iny.com/69025/


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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7850 times:

Quoting Cush (Thread starter):
I think this is just an incredible story.... How did the passenger know that this large bulk of money would be on the flight? It seems a bit like an Oceans 11 story...

He did his homework. I'm pretty sure the transfer of cash of the flights is a regular thing.



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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8496 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7808 times:
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That is what the airline gets for no using an armored courier.

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 7808 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 2):
That is what the airline gets for no using an armored courier.

Did you read the article?



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6926 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7625 times:

It's Air Antilles. And of course, the money was in euros, 172 000 € to be precise. The man has been identified, I hope his plan included a boat because Saint Martin is not big !


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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8496 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 7526 times:
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Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 3):
Did you read the article?

I did, a Brinks employee on a turboprop between 2 Caribean islands is not my idea of "secure" for that quantity of money. Why wasn't the money deposited in an Antilles bank.


User currently offlineusair330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 830 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days ago) and read 6969 times:

      He deserves to keep it just for being able to get it.      

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 6 days ago) and read 6866 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 5):
I did, a Brinks employee on a turboprop between 2 Caribean islands is not my idea of "secure" for that quantity of money. Why wasn't the money deposited in an Antilles bank.

??? You said

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 2):
That is what the airline gets for no using an armored courier.

They did use an armored courier. Money is transfered on airplanes all the time.

I'm not a banker but there are a slew of reasons why hard cash is handled the way it is. Why is money transfered to and from banks on a daily basis? You have to have paper to give to people you know. The money was most likely flown in from somewhere and being transfered back to SXM for whatever reason. To be destroyed for all we know.



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User currently offlineCush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6615 times:

I think this is one of the greatest heists of 2011. I know it wasn't some huge multi million dollar figure, but the overall scheme and execution was impressive. Just my two cents.


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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6136 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 5):

I did, a Brinks employee on a turboprop between 2 Caribean islands is not my idea of "secure" for that quantity of money. Why wasn't the money deposited in an Antilles bank.

Many flights around the world carry cash. The reason is that there is an excess of cash at a certain point, and thus goes back to either the head office of a bank or central bank. There is no point in having a lot of cash in a bank when tthat bank doesn't need it.

Furthermore, though not applicable here, some countries let their money printed abroad. Their money therefore must be transported to that country (and by air is the safest way)


User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1883 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6002 times:

Damn! Thats a shitload of money, pun and all!


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User currently offlineskygirl1990 From New Zealand, joined Jun 2010, 123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5205 times:

I think there may have already been another thread regarding this... (please correct me if I am wrong!)  


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User currently offlineScooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1213 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4615 times:
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Quoting skygirl1990 (Reply 11):
I think there may have already been another thread regarding this... (please correct me if I am wrong!)

I think you are right, but it seems to be lost.

Scooter01



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User currently offlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6532 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 2):
That is what the airline gets for no using an armored courier

Is the armored courier then supposed to use the underwater highway between the two islands?


User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1607 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 5):
I did, a Brinks employee on a turboprop between 2 Caribean islands is not my idea of "secure" for that quantity of money. Why wasn't the money deposited in an Antilles bank.

I worked a Delta Flight carrying cash once... only certain of the ground staff were allowed to be in that bin (those with a certain security classification) and the person accompanying the shipment was on the ramp and watching the entire time it was being unloaded.

You might not think it's high security, but it's just as secure as that Armored Car is when it pulls up to the bank and opens up to start loading/unloading.



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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 2):
That is what the airline gets for no using an armored courier.

Given the fact that guns and any other weapon are not allowed on board, how would you "arm" a courier while escorting very valuable stuff? Nobody on board should have a weapon, thus arming a courier is not necessary. However, what is necessary is that onlt few people know what's on board


User currently offlineSMFAviatrix From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 18 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3010 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 15):
Given the fact that guns and any other weapon are not allowed on board, how would you "arm" a courier while escorting very valuable stuff? Nobody on board should have a weapon, thus arming a courier is not necessary. However, what is necessary is that onlt few people know what's on board

For regular passengers. Law enforcement can carry guns, maybe this courier had clearance and was armed.


User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

So as of March 4th is he still free with the money?


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User currently offlineCush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

I have been searching since I posted this story and cannot find anything referencing him being caught so I assume the guy is still free.


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User currently offlineanshuk From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

What's the layout of a an ATR-42. I've had a couple of flights on one and as far as I remember, the baggage hold is in the front while the toilet is at the back? I recall the baggage hold being in between the passenger cabin and the flight deck while the toilet was an extremely cramped place right at the back of the plane. Can anybody confirm this?

User currently offlineHighflier92660 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 697 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

What should be emphasized is that this theft occurred on a flight to L 'Esperance airport on the northern (French) side of the island. Anyone who has flown out of there can attest of the relaxed atmosphere at this small, somewhat lesser known airfield on St. Martin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Esperance_Airport

Note: Be on the lookout for a guy with a really small waist.  


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