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Egyptair Does Not Know Neighboring Countries  
User currently offlineBommerJan From UK - England, joined Dec 2005, 54 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11556 times:

On the Egyptair website the capitol of the country which looks like Israel is Amman. The country that looks like Jordan does not have a city being served by Egyptair. The country which looks like Lebanon has three cities, among them Damascus Beirut and Aleppo. Syria does not have a mediterranian coast.

http://www.egyptair.com/Routes/Routes.aspx

Quite scary if an airlines does not know its nearest geography. Or is this political? Did they not serve Israel until recently?

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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3638 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11452 times:

This is nothing new, and not limited to airlines. Geography school textbooks in some Middle Eastern countries have similar geographic distortions.


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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5564 posts, RR: 37
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11397 times:

This is really an interesting map. And it's not even a US page where they usually mix up Sweden and Switzerland or Slovenia and Slovakia...   

User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2086 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 11361 times:

Quoting ZRH (Reply 2):
And it's not even a US page where they usually mix up Sweden and Switzerland or Slovenia and Slovakia...

Try asking a European (or American for that matter) to point to Idaho!!  


User currently offlinedirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1639 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 11124 times:

LOL if you guys think this is funny you should check out the SV map. It's even worse. IIRC SV flies to Frankfort, Kentucky instead of Frankfurt-am-Main, Germany

User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3240 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11024 times:
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Quoting BommerJan (Thread starter):
Quite scary if an airlines does not know its nearest geography. Or is this political? Did they not serve Israel until recently?


I will not go as far as saying scary, pilots use proper maps, stupid maybe. Who ever manage this web site should go back to school.
Egyptair did not fly to Israel, Air Sinai did. This is a political move.



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User currently offlinefilLPA From Spain, joined Mar 2009, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10217 times:

Quoting directorguy (Reply 4):
Try asking a European (or American for that matter) to point to Idaho!!  

Don´t compare a State with a Country   there is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference  


User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1553 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9857 times:

Nothing new, lots of airlines have awkwardly drawn maps. It's simply an inaccurate illustration.


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User currently offlineplunaaircanada From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9857 times:

LOL that part of the website is down now!  


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User currently offlineCentre From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8327 times:

just predicting how the new map of the middle east will look like down the road.


I have cut 4 times, and it's still short.
User currently offlinegoblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7672 times:

Shows those stereotypers about America a thing or two! I have hope that people will get things in order.


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User currently offlinesw733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6265 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7297 times:

Quoting Pyrex (Reply 9):
You are right, states in the U.S. have a lot more political independence than countries in the E.U.

About the same size, geographically, too.


User currently offlinezalemam From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7029 times:

Wow that is bad! You'd think they would look at a actual map while drawing the route map...


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User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1144 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5811 times:

Quoting BommerJan (Thread starter):
Quite scary if an airlines does not know its nearest geography. Or is this political? Did they not serve Israel until recently?

This does not at all say that Egyptair does not know the geography, all it suggests is that the map is wrong. Egyptair would not be able no operate if they did not know the map. I think to suggest that they would not know this is a bit out of line. All international airlines know the map where they operate well.



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User currently offlinejustbala From India, joined Feb 2006, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5768 times:

I guess every airline has a nincompoop team that never did geography back in school!!

Here is a classic example from India's flag carrier - AI (erstwhile IC) , whose inflight magazine Swagat would have geography profs around the world livid!! To their credit they even manage to goof up the Indian map!!  

India seems to have gained a new city - Thiruvanathapuram which according to IC is different from Trivandrum!! Pune shifted westwards, while KTM has been gifted to China. The icing on the cake though is DMM which proudly straddles the Suez Canal
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3237/pict0046h.jpg

Take your pic from the European map!!  

NA isnt spared either
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6231/pict0052s.jpg



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User currently offlinefd728 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5674 times:

Amazing geography skills!

Vienna or Zurich, still have to make up my mind where to go for my next beach vacation  


User currently offlinebgm From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5158 times:

Wow! I'm just lost for words...  

One word springs to mind: FAIL!


User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

Quoting filLPA (Reply 6):
Don´t compare a State with a Country there is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference

In which case why do so many on here (allegedly aviation enthusiasts who should have a 'reasonable' knowledge of geography) repeatedly state Turkey is in Europe....when it plainly is not, nor was it ever?


User currently offlinetrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3224 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4278 times:

This sort of thing is not unusual with airline maps, which are not always strictly geographically correct. For instance even AA got it wrong back in the 1980s - on their maps of that era Canada's Maritime provinces were never displayed and on the west coast of Canada Vancouver Island was seen to extend much further north than it actually does. In fact at one time while the US and Mexico were delineated on the maps Canada was not at all!

Quoting AirNZ (Reply 17):
In which case why do so many on here (allegedly aviation enthusiasts who should have a 'reasonable' knowledge of geography) repeatedly state Turkey is in Europe....when it plainly is not, nor was it ever?

Part of Turkey is in Europe, namely the bit west of the Bosphorus.

Trintocan.



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User currently offlineHiJazzey From Saudi Arabia, joined Sep 2005, 855 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4257 times:

Page doesn't work for me. Anyway, all airline route maps are horribly inaccurate. It's is very difficult to produce one that is reasonably accurate AND readable particularly if you have closely located points (do you want a map with dozens of zoom boxes?). IMO they are a relic of the pre-digital era.

In any case, why play the political angle?


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3120 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3283 times:

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 19):
Anyway, all airline route maps are horribly inaccurate

Delta would beg to differ. Please examine them and point out any errors I may have missed.



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User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3258 times:

Quoting BommerJan (Thread starter):
Quite scary if an airlines does not know its nearest geography

It's even more scary if an airline doesn't know what an aircraft in its fleet looks like :

Not so long ago, on SYRIANAIR website, in the "our fleet" section, the description of the B727 was illustrated by a beautiful picture of a ... Tu154 !!!


User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7927 posts, RR: 54
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3229 times:

Just one thing, I'm not convinced that Saudia really confused Frankfort KY with Frankfurt am Main. SV fly cargo planes to Kentucky to collect and drop off race horses. Lexington is the horse capital of the world, and Frankfort airport is only 40 mi away. So that may be the one thing that is accurate on an airline map!


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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24631 posts, RR: 86
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3214 times:
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Quoting BommerJan (Thread starter):
Syria does not have a mediterranian coast.

Hmmmm? So how come it has a port city - Latakia - on the Mediterranean?

http://www.cafe-syria.com/Latakia.htm

"Latakia - Is Syria’s main sea-port on the Mediterranean.

The Syrian seashore is about 182 km long and its numerous beaches are distinguished by soft sand, unpolluted sea, moderate climate and clear blue skies. The Blue Beach of Latakia is the most popular beach on the Eastern Mediterranean. Water-skiing, jet-skiing, and windsurfing are popular activities in this resort town."


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[Edited 2011-03-26 18:30:15]


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User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

Quoting BommerJan (Thread starter):
Syria does not have a mediterranian coast.
Quoting mariner (Reply 23):
So how come it has a port city - Latakia - on the Mediterranean?

  



Latakia / LTK isone of the last RB' s Yak 40 destination.


25 LJ : If I'm correct IST lies in Europe and SAW not. In addition, though still not a member of the EU, Turkey was considered to become member of the EU whe
26 FlySSC : Ho Ho ... be careful ... you are starting here a very sensitive debate that was already discussed aproximately 9765 times here ... Though not (yet) m
27 LJ : I know, but I couldn't resist. BTW talking about politics, at least the map is clear where they think Istanbul is located.... BTW I mistakenly omitte
28 rolfen : I was about to put this on bad work from some graphic/web/PR agency, but then i saw the map and saw that they virtually created a new map... I've neve
29 PPVRA : They look bad but I wonder how much of this is merely due to bad computer programs causing these problematic distortions on the final product, and nob
30 Viscount724 : Turkey is also part of the Europe region as far as IATA is concerned. Their traffic data and other statistics are always included with Europe, not As
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