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What Will Happen To Afriqiyah Airways?  
User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 419 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 10510 times:

With it all kicking off in Libya, I was just wondering what will happen to Afriqiyah Airways.. Im not really a expert on the current situation, but surely no one would want to visit Tripoli for a holiday. So they would loose most of there business? Do you think they might move headquarters to a nearby country, e.g. Tunisia and carry on flights as normal to there destinations? Or would they charter/lease there aircraft out to tour operators? Or of course, bankruptcy.

Thanks!


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User currently offlineBthebest From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 10490 times:

No-fly zone so couldn't operate flights even if they wanted - from Libya at least.

User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 6 days ago) and read 10473 times:

Quoting Bthebest (Reply 1):
No-fly zone so couldn't operate flights even if they wanted - from Libya at least.

Oh, I thought they were allowing commercial and humanitarian flights?



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User currently offlineBthebest From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 10172 times:

Only 'aid flights'. TBH would you as a commercial pilot want to be flying among the Tornados, Rafales and Tomahawk missiles?

User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9464 times:

Looks like I won't be seeing them at LGW anytime soon then...  


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User currently offlineDeterminist From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2010, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9012 times:

They are unlikely to move because they are a state owned airline just like Libyan Airlines. In fact the two airlines were planning to merge in the near future. I guess that's not a priority at the moment.

User currently offlinerufusisgod From Ireland, joined Nov 2008, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8437 times:

I've a feeling they'll encounter heavy losses and could possibly be forced to cease trading. Since the loss of the 330 i've always personally thought they'd go under soon even though i love their livery and i'd like to see them survive.

User currently offlinevheca From Australia, joined May 2007, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7281 times:

I would think that being a State-owned airline might give it some sort of "target" status for those who oppose the State. would not be a good idea to fly, albeit the "no-fly zone" or the other "airborne" devices in the vaciinity!

Just my humble opinion.

vheca



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User currently offlinee38 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7171 times:

Marshall, with reference to your question, "Do you think they might move headquarters to a nearby country?"

This information is not official, but it is my understanding that during Desert Shield/Desert Storm, officials of Kuwait Airways evacuated as many aircraft and employees as possible and attempted to conduct normal operations (as much as possible under the circumstances) from the Cairo, Egypt International airport. They didn't move their headquarters to Cairo, but used it as their base of operation until conditions permitted return to Kuwait.

I remember seeing a Kuwait Airways Boeing 727-200 at an airport in the Middle East and when I asked about what it was doing there, I was told, "Oh it's on a regularly scheduled flight to Cairo."

e38


User currently offlinehma350 From Seychelles, joined Dec 2010, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6900 times:

I often wondered about the crew who would be out station at the time of the problems. What happens to them. Their hotel accomodation and landing fees for the planes too?

User currently offlinevarig md-11 From France, joined Jul 2000, 1603 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5920 times:

Quoting rufusisgod (Reply 6):
I've a feeling they'll encounter heavy losses and could possibly be forced to cease trading. Since the loss of the 330 i've always personally thought they'd go under soon even though i love their livery and i'd like to see them survive.

To suffer loses they would have to be a "normal" airline which they are not....8U is a branch of Lybian state, as long as it is funded by Khadafi's mafia, they will survive
The same apply to SV by the way: whenever there's a deficit, Al Saud family makes a $ transfer

Quoting hma350 (Reply 9):
I often wondered about the crew who would be out station at the time of the problems. What happens to them. Their hotel accomodation and landing fees for the planes too?

I was wondering the same, but the crew is often made of Tunisians for FA and Croatians for Pilots: situation is not easier for Tunisians though...Croatians can just go back home and wait



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User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3488 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5272 times:

The Tunisian crew working on 8U is employed by Nouvelair   and only dispatched to Libya for a period of two months then back home.

Most of Libyans, from the west part of the country at least, will now drive to Tunisia, take a plane from Djerba, or commute to Tunis then to their final destination.


User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5033 times:

Didn't MEA temporaraly move it's base to Paris during some conflicts in Lebanon in the past? Perhaps Afriqyah could move somewhere for the duration, and try and lease out it's aircraft and crews to keep some money coming in.
MEA also did quite a bit of leasing of both Aircraft and crews during the 80's.


User currently offlinefn1001 From Moldova, joined Sep 2008, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4147 times:

Quoting T8KE0FF (Thread starter):
...no one would want to visit Tripoli for a holiday

8U was mainly not used to go for holydays in Libya.

They had quite interesting prices from Europe to many destinations in Africa and often very competitive rates to South Africa.



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User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3166 times:

Thanks for all the replies, I didn't realise that they were state owned.. I guess time will tell!

Quoting e38 (Reply 8):
This information is not official, but it is my understanding that during Desert Shield/Desert Storm, officials of Kuwait Airways evacuated as many aircraft and employees as possible and attempted to conduct normal operations (as much as possible under the circumstances) from the Cairo, Egypt International airport. They didn't move their headquarters to Cairo, but used it as their base of operation until conditions permitted return to Kuwait.

WOW! I didn't think this had happened before! Thanks for that.  



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User currently offlinevarig md-11 From France, joined Jul 2000, 1603 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3062 times:

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 11):
The Tunisian crew working on 8U is employed by Nouvelair   and only dispatched to Libya for a period of two months then back home.

True, I forgot about that
And Croatian pilots are from Adria btw: once their "mission" is completed with 8U, they come back to EU as pax



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User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3016 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2803 times:
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Would not be surprised if a number of Libyian aircraft are now in the neighboring Ghadaffi controlled and client state of Chad for safety.

Especially in the case of 8U which is controlled by Ghadaffis family and friends !

After the last few nights Mitiga probably has craters where runway once were so any aircraft still there
are going nowhere else anytime soon.


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