TS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3295 posts, RR: 7 Posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2864 times:
Today's flight ELY042 GRU-TLV routed via the western Moroccan coasts then right overhead Tangiers then Spain... and this is bit curious due to political issues ! I thought El Al wasn't authorized to use Casablanca, nor Algiers, nor even Beirut FIRs. Of course it would have been better, shorter, and more economic if they route "normally" through Malta, Tunisia, Algeria... down to South America.
FlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7313 posts, RR: 61 Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2762 times:
The "No-Fly zone" over Libya and the air strikes over Tripoli and Benghazi can be a reason ....
Several other airline's routes are afected by this conflict.
I know MEA's flights from BEY to West Africa are now taking a different longer route to avoid the region.
AIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2675 times:
Morocco, althouhgh not really recognizing the State of Israel, is relaxed towards Israelis. It has its own consular section in Tel Aviv and a lot of Israelis visit Morocco on guided tours or business. Morocco is encouraging Israelis especially from Moroccon origins to visit the country. That's the way to go...
So I guess, there won't be any problem having EL AL overflying Morocco.
flyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1005 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2395 times:
Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 5): It has nothing to do with the No-Fly Zone in Libya. Never an El Al flight has routed through Libya though.
Agreed. This map is a good way to illustrate the issue:
Both Libya and Sudan do not recognise Israel and refuse entry to Israelis. This means the shortest routes to GRU are blocked. Therefore El Al has to fly around Africa rather than cut across it. Being allowed to fly through Morrocan airspace saves them a little bit of time and distance on what is already a very substantial detour.
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CXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1500 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2214 times:
Morocco does not ban Israeli aircraft or investment. Some of this is due to a more relaxed attitude politically, some of this is a matter of practicality...also, Morocco's government has had unofficial political, intelligence, and military relations with Israel's for decades. This overflight permission is part of the unofficial agreement (Israel assists Moroccan intelligence on the W. Sahara situation).
A lot of Israelis do travel to Morocco for guided tours, business, and other reasons - a lot of Israeli academics, for example, conduct Arab-based studies in Morocco - normally, they fly through MAD on IB, CDG on AF, IST on TK or AMM on RJ. A similar situation exists for one or two of the Gulf States.
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AIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1911 times:
Quoting 777way (Reply 8): Why? I dont understand people from West getting all excited about exemptions allowed to Israel by Muslim countries, whats with it?
I am Tunisian and I am against confrontation and troubles. Tunisia allows Israelis to enter and it should remain like that. It is by getting together that things will improve and not the opposite. So if Arab or Muslim countries allow Israeli Jets to to overfly them, than that's great...
washingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1795 times:
Quoting 777way (Reply 8): Why? I dont understand people from West getting all excited about exemptions allowed to Israel by Muslim countries, whats with it?
I'm not sure if I'm reading your statement correctly. Are you saying it's a good thing or a bad thing that certain countries don't allow El Al to overfly them?
Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 9): It is by getting together that things will improve and not the opposite.
It is long overdue. I mean seriously, step back and think about this 777way. It's 2011 and a good chunk of the Arab & Muslim world refuses to let commercial jetliners from ONE country overfly their territory. It is just racist and ridiculous. It makes the Arab world look xenophobic and illiberal.
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It is long overdue. I mean seriously, step back and think about this 777way. It's 2011 and a good chunk of the Arab & Muslim world refuses to let commercial jetliners from ONE country overfly their territory. It is just racist and ridiculous. It makes the Arab world look xenophobic and illiberal.
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