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Long UA LAX-JFK Delays On 3/21  
User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3029 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

We had some clients coming to NYC from Los Angeles for meetings yesterday on UA and three successive flights they were on (UA 26, UA 890, and UA 28) all took pretty subtantial delays. UA 26 took an hour delay on departure, and arrived 40 mins late, UA 890 took a 2 hour 55 minute departure delay and arrived 90 minutes late, and UA 28 took a 3 hour 20 minute departure delay and arrived over 2 hours and 40 minutes late. Anyone know what was up yesterday? I'm not seeing our clients until tomorrow.

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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21423 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3908 times:

Weather was bad pretty much all day in NYC yesterday, probably weather-induced ATC delays.

-Mir



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User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4228 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3832 times:

It would have to be pretty big to affect those flights, because usually those PS flights come in from the west coast then go back to the west coast. My guess is the delay program was an ALL program, rather than a 1500 miles scope which so many of them are. The fact that UA has very few slots in JFK to play with as opposed to AA, B6, and DL doesn't help them in JFK either.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24728 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

Um, have you considered weather?

JFK had rain (and even a bit of snow) along with low visibility (down to 1/4 mile) until the early evening hours which pretty much gummed operations up for the day and the FAA had a national delay program in place for the airport.



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User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3029 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3536 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
Um, have you considered weather?

JFK had rain (and even a bit of snow) along with low visibility (down to 1/4 mile) until the early evening hours which pretty much gummed operations up for the day and the FAA had a national delay program in place for the airport.

I did. I live in NYC, and I flew on DL LGA-ATL-LGA yesterday for a quick meeting in Atlanta and we were on time each way. A 3 hour and 20 minute delay at a midnight arrival seems like it would be something else though.


User currently offlineEASTERN From United States of America, joined May 2009, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3518 times:

Quoting catiii (Reply 4):
A 3 hour and 20 minute delay at a midnight arrival seems like it would be something else though.

I'm off from work this week, but had to make a quick run to the store yesterday around 12:30am. The visibility was terrible. It was very foggy out. Couldn't see more than a couple blocks ahead. It's no wonder that there were lengthy delays. I actually thought about how happy I was that I didn't fly out that evening.  



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User currently offlinedartland From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 643 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3450 times:
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Quoting EASTERN (Reply 5):
I'm off from work this week, but had to make a quick run to the store yesterday around 12:30am. The visibility was terrible. It was very foggy out. Couldn't see more than a couple blocks ahead. It's no wonder that there were lengthy delays. I actually thought about how happy I was that I didn't fly out that evening.  

Hmm, strange because I was on UA 14 SFO-JFK yesterday and we pushed early and landed 40 minutes early. The Ground Delay program from earlier in the day (scope indeed was "ALL") was long expired, no slow-downs at all into JFK, and we did a visual approach to 22L (weather was totally fine by then).

It was actually a lighter-than-normal traffic situation into JFK (I'm on that flight almost every week).

UA 28 must have been held up by an incoming aircraft issue? Indeed weird since all the SFO P.S. flights were on-time (and P.S. generally does not have inbound aircraft issues due to lengthy ground times and generous fleet utilization).


User currently offlinecatiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 3029 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3245 times:

Quoting dartland (Reply 6):
Hmm, strange because I was on UA 14 SFO-JFK yesterday and we pushed early and landed 40 minutes early. The Ground Delay program from earlier in the day (scope indeed was "ALL") was long expired, no slow-downs at all into JFK, and we did a visual approach to 22L (weather was totally fine by then).

It was actually a lighter-than-normal traffic situation into JFK (I'm on that flight almost every week).

UA 28 must have been held up by an incoming aircraft issue? Indeed weird since all the SFO P.S. flights were on-time (and P.S. generally does not have inbound aircraft issues due to lengthy ground times and generous fleet utilization).

Interesting. I presume all these flights are turns as well, and the JFK-LAX flights all left on time, and arrived on or close to, on time.


User currently offlinemcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1448 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2851 times:

The first flight delayed due to atc

Second flight was maintenance delay.

Third flight was late turn from inbound arriving late due to earlier atc issues.

Hope that helps.


User currently offlineindio66 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

Slightly off topic, but I understand a UAL 75 from JFK to LAX diverted to IAD the otherday as a result of a cockpit fire (improperly repaired windshield).

It made the news here NYC (no surprise).


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