Flighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 9814 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5532 times:
Very interesting. I would not label this an "SY response" at all. SY provided UA with an _excuse_ to enter this historical monopoly NW route (cause it's not a '100% monopoly' anymore). US could also have entered the route from DCA years ago, but never has.
In days past, this would get an 8x 757 response from NW. Today, it might get no retaliation. DL will still have exclusivity on DCA nonstop. On balance, UA seeks the very good MSP feed for international, something they already know a lot about.
The IAD 'hub' ought to serve MSP if they want to call it a hub, anyhow.
MSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2521 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5457 times:
I don't know if does much to SY's operations. I just don't see the same type of customer targeted between UA and SY. For instance I don't see many D.C. originating customers very interested in SY's flight. On the flip side many MSP-based travelers would be.
However I bet it will affect DL's MSP operations to IAD. It's already #3 of the 3 airports in the D.C. area with just four CP 175s a day. Hopefully it works for UA. I don't mind the competition.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 9016 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5177 times:
This isn't a shot across the bow at Delta or Sun Country...there is a large number of *A customers in MSP and this will give them further connectivity to Europe. I'd put this more in the organic growth category here...
Coronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1305 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5077 times:
A few years ago I took the United ( at that time operated by Shuttle America) E170's on the non stop from MSP to IAD, was not full then, will probably not be full now that it has been restarted. With the current price of fuel it seems like a route which seems a bit long for connections considering ORD is a lot closer to MSP than IAD. for the upper midwest pax who wants to avoid DL. It was convenient however to visit a major national ISP client with HQ not too far from Dulles, which since has cut back its work force by 90%+..
The Original Coronado: First CV jet flights RG CV 990 July 1965; DL CV 880 July 1965; Spantax CV990 Feb 1973
msp747 From United States of America, joined May 2010, 356 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2757 times:
If UA had wanted to respond to SY's flights to the DC area, it would have done it in the years past, when SY operated direct flights between IAD and MSP. Basically, SY took their nonstop flights to IAD away for one stop into DCA. There does seem to be a loyal UA following in the Twin Cities. There's even a Red Carpet club at MSP, even though the airport is a DL fortress.