YYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8950 times:
I was curious to know if airlines allow passengers to de-plane if they happen to divert to their destination airport. I am sure this is very rare, but I am curious.
Hypothetical scenario: I am flying YHZ-YOW via YYZ on AC. Weather in YYZ is bad and the aircraft diverts to YOW. This is my final destination, so would they allow me to de-plane time permitting? I understand not allowing if the diversion is only about a half hour and it would take to much time, but what happens if the aircraft will be in YOW for over an hour? If they could get a gate, would they allow me to de-plane?
I know that is a scenario specific to an airline, but I am curious amongst all the global carriers. Can anyone weigh in on different airline policies regarding this type of situation? Also, please distinguish if the policy changes if the pax has a bag checked or not, as that could change things.
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BoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 4341 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 8929 times:
It's kind of case by case. If you were arriving on an international flight and there's no customs at your diversion destination, they wouldn't let you off. Say, you are flying NRT-SEA-GEG and your NRT-SEA flight diverts to GEG, if no customs are available at GEG, you aren't getting off.
On the other hand, I know that in the past AS has diverted SFO bound flights into SJC and allowed passengers to get off at SJC if they chose.
I actually had a Boeing Field Service rep, based at HND, tell me he was on a NW SEA-NRT flight. It diverted into HND. He could see his office while the plane was sitting on the ground at HND. He had to fly to NRT and then take the train back to HND to get to his office hours later. That would be the ultimate in frustration.
I think the best answer to your question is, it depends.......
dumbell2424 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 8920 times:
A friend of mine living in AGS was flying JFK-ATL-AGS, and JFK-ATL got diverted due to weather to AGS, they made an announcement saying if your final destination was AGS (apparently there were 10 or so on the manifest), you could disembark as long as you did not have any checked luggage.
YYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1202 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 8900 times:
Keep in mind (at least in Canada) if it is an international flight if one person gets off the plane everyone has to get off the plane and clear customs. So if you were flying LHR-YYZ-YOW and you diverted to YOW and wanted to get off the plane that would mean the entire plane would have to clear customs in YOW. The exception to this is for a pilot to do a walk around, and of course medical emergencies.
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Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8880 times:
I remember a KLM 747 diverting to Cleveland due to weather in Detroit one afternoon. The pilot came into the ops room and said that there were about 45 people on board whose final destination was CLE and they wanted off. The plane was not parked at the international gate and so they denied them. I've also heard of it happening domestically and the passengers being told they could get off, but nobody was going to dig through the bin for their bags.
dfwramper From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8842 times:
I had this specific situation happen to me around 1988-89....
Was flying Piedmont 767 LAX-BWI and weather diverted us to ORF where I was actually headed. Upon landing, I asked the flight attendant if I could get off since that was my final destination. She said as long as I didn't mind not being able to get my bags (ORF had no way to offload the containers) I could get off. So one other person and I got up and left. The 767 was parked out away from the terminal (was told the jet bridges at ORF couldn't reach the door) had to go down the stairs, out across the ramp with an escort and then in a security door to get back into the terminal.
Came back in the afternoon and got my bags, but was happy to have a nonstop LAX-ORF flight for once!
I wonder post-9/11 if this is still something you could do, though.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 29316 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8833 times:
I remember a CP DC-10 flight YVR-YYZ sometime in the 1980s. I was planning to connect at YYZ to YUL. Due to a snowstorm at YYZ the flight diverted to Montreal Mirabel (YMX), then used only for international (except US) flights serving Montreal. There were about a dozen passengers, including myself, whose final destination was Montreal. Originally they weren't going to let anyone off and they were just going to sit there until the weather improved at YYZ and then fly back to YYZ. However they eventually permitted the Montreal passengers to deplane, except anyone with checked bags (I only had carry-on) would have to wait for their bags to be sent via YYZ. I still got to my hotel in Montreal at least an hour earlier than originally planned with the YYZ connection.
YYZRWY23 From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8735 times:
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 1): I think the best answer to your question is, it depends.......
That is what I figured it would be. I knew that if it was international, very unlikely it would happen, and not in Canada as stated by YYZatcboy. I am grateful for all of your answers with specific examples, but does anyone have knoweldge of specific airline procedures or protocol that dictate the rules in this situation?
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bpat777 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 591 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 8697 times:
Once I was flying AA from LGA to DFW and due to thunderstorms we diverted to OKC. The crew actually made an announcement that anyone who's final destination was OKC could get off but would have to come back and pick their checked luggage up later in the day. On a sidenote, when we were landing at DFW I expierenced my first and only a go-around.
KL642 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 350 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8578 times:
I had this happen to me about 15 years ago. I was flying CO from MSP-EWR and we diverted to LGA because of fog at Newark. LaGuardia was actually more convienient for me as well as for most of the passengers. We were giving the option of deplaning at LGA. They even gave me my luggage and away I went!
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 10885 posts, RR: 33
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8525 times:
A LH 737, LHR-FRA flight I was on diverted to NUE about 2 years ago and the NUE pax were offered to deplane there, astonishing number BTW, but their baggage was not offloaded. After a short stop for some fuel we took off for FRA anmd the NUE pax got their bags the next day.
QANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2073 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8457 times:
We get that often at LAX with WN. A flight will be going to BUR or SNA and will divert to LAX due to fog or curfew. People going to BUR are usually going to the BUR area. But often SNA paxs are going to Long Beach or so. When they divert to LAX, we always tell them to remain on board. If they still demand to get off, they can, but their bags will continue on and it is up to them to get their own transportation... on their dime. We'll then change the passenger count and be on our way to the original destination.
My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
Cricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2994 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8437 times:
I remember watching a TV Documentary about the 1977 Tenerife accident at Los Rodeos airport, one KLM passenger onboard KL 4805 - Robina van Lanschot - got off at Tenerife and did not reboard for the hop to Gran Canaria as she wanted to meet her boyfriend near the diversion airport. Fateful decision.
aquariusHKG From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2010, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8403 times:
There were a case for BR LAX - TPE flight, which for a typhoon was diverted to HKG, and the HKG-bound passenger wants to get off, but BR doesn't allow them, thus the passenger complained to the local HK radio on the matter and eventually allowed off.
The radio interviewed the HK authority and said they have no problem with the passenger deplaning. Some (in the newspaper or radio can't remember) speculate that BR doesn't allow them off to avoid possible landing fee
BNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 401 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8193 times:
Quoting Cricket (Reply 13): I remember watching a TV Documentary about the 1977 Tenerife accident at Los Rodeos airport, one KLM passenger onboard KL 4805 - Robina van Lanschot - got off at Tenerife and did not reboard for the hop to Gran Canaria as she wanted to meet her boyfriend near the diversion airport. Fateful decision.
Unlike the KLM passengers, the Pan Am passengers were not allowed to deplane at Tenerife due to limited space in the terminal.
dwcontroller From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7837 times:
From working in Manchester, NH any diversion flight we get that was going to Portland, ME or Boston, MA we give all them all that option first with the understanding that if they get off there is no getting back on if its a quick "gas and go".
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airceo From Canada, joined Feb 2010, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6501 times:
Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 2): A friend of mine living in AGS was flying JFK-ATL-AGS, and JFK-ATL got diverted due to weather to AGS, they made an announcement saying if your final destination was AGS (apparently there were 10 or so on the manifest), you could disembark as long as you did not have any checked luggage.
I flew YYZ-ATL last year and because of a storm we also diverted to AGS where a handful of pax got off. We continued on to ATL after the sotrm passed. The DL ground team handled it really well.
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rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7867 posts, RR: 32
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6461 times:
I've seen passengers on domestic fights in the US allowed to get off at the diversion airport. Both those for whom the diversion airport was their destination, and some who just wanted to try their luck with ground transportation.
Of course the airline was not going to compensate them for the rental car costs.
But I also saw on gentleman refused permission to get off last year. Apparently having a checked bag and not flying frequently with the airline makes it harder to get off.
grimey From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 462 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6367 times:
I think this happened recently during the snow crisis (Dec 2010) when a VS A346 NRT - LHR was diverted to DUB and a few Irish people on that flight was suppose to fly LHR-DUB so they were allowd to collect their bags and head home. Everyone on the flight had to collect their bags since they were put up in hotels so the pax with the final stop in DUB had it easy.
IAHAAPLatinum From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6295 times:
I was flying MSY-DFW on a saturday evening about five years ago when we were diverted to OKC due to a fire somwhere in the airport, with loss of power to the control tower (at least that's what we were told). There were at least a couple of passengers whose final destination was OKC, who were allowed to deplane (as I recall, we pulled to a jet bridge from a remote spot for this to happen), without their checked bags. When we arrived at DFW, operations seemed to be normal, and our flight seemed to be the only one diverted. Only one passenger seemed to be upset (at least in FC) - a guy going to somewhere in South America, who was going to have to wait until the next day.
BoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 4341 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5917 times:
Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 19): Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 1):
On the other hand, I know that in the past AS has diverted SFO bound flights into SJC and allowed passengers to get off at SJC if they chose
However, if they choose to deplane, they are on their own and checked bags do not come off the plane.
Yeah, what had to have been frustrating is the night I flew SEA-SJC for a high school graduation in 2002. Our AS 739 got knocked around, but when we landed there were UA 767s and 777s and an AC A320 (this was after AC dropped SJC) all line up on around the field. Another UA 763 landed right after us.
These were all SFO diversions due to high wind conditions at SFO. I did hear that some domestic flights diverted and terminated at SJC, but all the UA and AC international arrivals just sat there.
Finally about 1am, I could hear them flying overhead for the short flight to SFO (my folks live near 101 and Tully Rd so departures from the 12s fly within ear range).
I mean that had to be frustrating. SFO and SJC are about 33 miles by highway. Each are adjacent to Highway 101. It would be frustrating to be cooped up on an airplane on the ground for 3-6 hours when only 30 minutes by car (or a little longer by Caltrain) from the destination airport. It would even be more frustrating if you actually lived near SJC in the first place.
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