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LH 744 Flying MIA-MCO-FRA 3/24, 3/25?  
User currently offlineOceanic From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 142 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4897 times:

I was leaving work earlier this evening and to my surprise saw a Lufthansa 744 taking off from MCO. When I got home I checked Flightaware which showed LH463 which is normally on a MIA-FRA routing had been operating MIA-MCO-FRA on 3/24 and 3/25.

Is this because of higher bookings on the MCO-FRA leg due to the CTIA show? I also saw AA operated AA9664 from MCO-MIA with a 772 departing around the same time.

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User currently onlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33603 posts, RR: 71
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4931 times:

It has nothing to do with bookings. There is a fuel shortage at MIA. Planes are stopping in Orlando for fuel.


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User currently offlineOceanic From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 142 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4917 times:

On another note, SWISS 65 is doing the same thing as well, MIA-MCO-ZRH

User currently offlineOceanic From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 142 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4899 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 1):

It has nothing to do with bookings. There is a fuel shortage at MIA. Planes are stopping in Orlando for fuel.

Ahh ok, that makes sense. Didn't know the fuel situation at MIA was forcing these types of stops. Was AA9664 an empty bird just picking up fuel before going to MIA for its departure to its normal destination then?


User currently offlinerobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4786 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 1):
There is a fuel shortage at MIA. Planes are stopping in Orlando for fuel.

Why is there a shortage? Will there be a compensation for airliners / passengers by MIA?


User currently onlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33603 posts, RR: 71
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4780 times:

Quoting robffm2 (Reply 4):
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 1):
There is a fuel shortage at MIA. Planes are stopping in Orlando for fuel.

Why is there a shortage? Will there be a compensation for airliners / passengers by MIA?


There is a shortage because of a fire the other day. I'm not quite sure why MIA owes the passengers anything. It doesn't. The airlines might be kind enough to give some miles compensation, though.



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User currently offlinelaxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 671 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4678 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 1):
here is a fuel shortage at MIA. Planes are stopping in Orlando for fuel.

This must be because of the fire, correct? I am sure things will be backed up for the next few days, but do when we know things will be back to normal? I hope that everything can get back on track soon, this was an unfortunate incident.

I thought it was mentioned in the first thread about the fire that AA was the only airline affected because they dominate MIA, but I guess int'l flights are also affected because they use more fuel.

Thank you,

laxboeingman



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7378 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4678 times:

Quoting Oceanic (Thread starter):
Is this because of higher bookings on the MCO-FRA leg due to the CTIA show?

As said above there was a large fire at the fuel storage areas at MIA two nights ago. Here is the thread about it for anyone who missed it. Major Fire At MIA (by ck8msp Mar 23 2011 in Civil Aviation)

AA canceled 188 flights today and delays and cancellations are expected through the weekend and maybe next week. So expect plenty of more planes refueling in MCO and FLL especially long haul flights since shorter flights can try to tanker fuel in so they do not need to have as much fuel put on in MIA.



"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8991 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4621 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 7):
So expect plenty of more planes refueling in MCO and FLL especially long haul flights since shorter flights can try to tanker fuel in so they do not need to have as much fuel put on in MIA.

LAN is operating most of their flights to South America via CUN in order to refuel before flying down to either LIM or SCL. Tonight three flights will stop in CUN as well as tomorrow morning's flight to SCL.



SCL-AKL-SYD on CC-BBA!
User currently offlinemcoatc From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 209 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4535 times:

Quoting Oceanic (Reply 3):
Was AA9664 an empty bird just picking up fuel before going to MIA for its departure to its normal destination then?

AA canceled most of the 757 flights to MIA today, and instead ran a few Eagle ATR's and the 777 to make up for the seats. It came up from MIA and returned there. One would have to assume that if it picked up fuel for a longhaul flight out of MIA, it would have been well over its max landing weight upon arriving there. This is why the Europe traffic is stopping on the outbound leg.


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3186 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4518 times:

Yesterday and today:

3 DLH flights from MIA stopped at MCO, one with A333, one with A343 and one with 744

Swissair both days stopped at MCO

Today Iberia A340 stopped at MCO around 10pm

Yesterday Virgin A340 stopped at MCO around 11pm

There were a few AAL flights yesterday that stopped here domestically.

Today there was an AAL 777 and a couple ATRs flying between MCO and MIA as extra sections for all of yesterday's cancelled flights.

As for DLH 744s at MCO, they have been flying here for the past few months and will be a couple more weeks before DLH goes back to A346s and then back to A333s this summer.


User currently offlineworking2gether From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2971 times:

LH 463 today is flying MIA-IAD-FRA

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DLH463


User currently offlinelucky777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

Why not use FLL instead of MCO to refuel?

User currently offlineWilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9247 posts, RR: 76
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2490 times:
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Quoting lucky777 (Reply 12):
Why not use FLL instead of MCO to refuel?

Always easier if you have your own staff, and as LH doesn't fly to FLL there is no LH ground staff, so that's why MCO will be easier then.

wilco737
  


User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7378 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

Quoting lucky777 (Reply 12):
Why not use FLL instead of MCO to refuel?

Was WILCO said above that is always the big difference but also FLL is a very crowded one runway airport with limited gate space and probably just a few that can handle a 747. Its just not a place to stop for a re-fuel its a congested place. MCO, IAD, SJU all make much more sense depending on the airline and where the flight is going.



"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineAJO From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 577 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 10):
Yesterday and today:

3 DLH flights from MIA stopped at MCO, one with A333, one with A343 and one with 744

Swissair both days stopped at MCO

That's amazing, I thought SR went bankrupt in 2001.



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7378 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

Quoting AJO (Reply 15):

That's amazing, I thought SR went bankrupt in 2001.

Well its not SWISSAIR anymore its SWISS and its owed my LU.



"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
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