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Afriqiyah 332 Crash - Findings?  
User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11476 times:

I hope you all remember the Afriqiyah A332 crash. Was there any final or at least preliminary rept released on this accident ? Like one reputed CEO stated with me, Libya would likely put the blame on the pilots. But what did actually happen? It seems both in service 330 crashes are mysteries.


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User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1586 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 11177 times:

IIRC it was a CFIT due to the sun glare during a manual/visual approach. So nothing to do with the 330....


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User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10702 times:

A CFIT ? To the runway ? Of course, we all predicted that the pilots misunderstood the road as the runway, but was their any official confirmation to this ?


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User currently offlinebtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 578 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 10660 times:

I've been asking myself the same question.

There is some info on Wiki about the crash but authorities are still looking at the flight data recorder... mind you, that was in 2010. I have yet to see anything that points conclusive evidence that it was controlled flight into terrain but it appears to be just that from what is out there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afriqiyah_Airways_Flight_771

Linked from Wiki, a BEA statements ends 'The BEA reminds you that information on the technical investigation is the responsibility of the Libyan civil aviation authorities.'

I have a feeling we won't hear conclusive evidence soon, what with the current situation there [Libya].

[Edited 2011-03-28 04:28:42]


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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7546 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 10433 times:

Quoting btblue (Reply 3):
I have a feeling we won't hear conclusive evidence soon, what with the current situation there [Libya].

I seriously doubt there will ever be a factual or final report on the crash and the investigation findings.


User currently offlineb767 From Norway, joined Feb 2008, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6692 times:

But what about EGPWS? Doesn,t this system also function very well when in landing configuration?

User currently offlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8536 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6567 times:
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Quoting b767 (Reply 5):
But what about EGPWS? Doesn,t this system also function very well when in landing configuration?

Isn't is disabled once the gear is down ? Otherwise every landing would generate warnings .



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User currently offlinebueb0g From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2010, 640 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5763 times:

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 6):
Isn't is disabled once the gear is down ? Otherwise every landing would generate warnings .

No, modern aircraft have a global terrain database so the aircraft knows when it's descending into high ground or wether it's conducting a normal approach into an airport. So if the pilots were off course they would still get "Terrain, Terrain", and the "Sinkrate" and "Pull Up" alarms are never disabled. (When approaching a new runway, one that isn't yet in the terrain database, pilots will often have to turn off the EGPWS to curtail spurious warnings, but that wasn't the case here.)

And the preliminary report (IIRC) stated that the ground was very hazy, the glare very bright and that the pilots were conducting a non-precision approach. For whatever reason, (I don't want to be too speculative about this,) the a/c pitched down and crashed into the ground at a reported speed of around 200 knots and between 15 and 20 degrees nosedown. The hard, dry ground contributed to the destruction.



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