mozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2253 posts, RR: 13 Posted (3 years 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1654 times:
With AM firmly in Skyteam and Mexicana sort of dead (and if it is alive it'll be in oneworld) I was wondering about the other Mexican carriers.
Does anyone of them have the "characteristics" of a (future) alliance member in either Star Alliance or oneworld? "Characteristics" being a wide network reach, not a hard core LCC product (i.e. anything between Singapore Airlines and Egyptair), operational reliability?
Mexico is an interesting but I know fairly little about carriers other than the two flagships AM and MX there. It always seemed to me that there are a couple of airlines that have been around forever and use planes that date from the early days of those carriers' existence (still some B737-200 around, right?); and a handful of newer creations that mainly use Airbus aircraft. Maybe someone can shed some light on the Mexican airline landscape.
DesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1433 times:
Please Southwest and Volaris tie the knot...I fly both and would like to receive WN points for my Volaris flights. Volaris is positioning itself for this marriage by beginning service from WN strongholds: OAK, LAS, LAX and cities with strong WN presence like SMF and SAN.
AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6896 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1343 times:
In my opinion, Star and OneWorld will start the process to incorporate a member soon. Mexicana is dead and not coming back. And in whatever state it comes back, if it does, it won´t be able to perform any "alliance worthy" tasks for a long while.
As of know, LH and AV for example, have tremendous problems receiving and spreading feed into primary and secondary Mexican cities. LH from its 498/499 flights. Other airlines terminating at MEX are facing similar issues. So I believe that sooner rather than later, if not full membership, Volaris and Interjet will be offered at least "associate status". They are not LCC´s per se anymore anyway, their aircraft are top notch and their service is excellent.
skyone From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1305 times:
Quoting mozart (Thread starter): Does anyone of them have the "characteristics" of a (future) alliance member in either Star Alliance or oneworld? "Characteristics" being a wide network reach, not a hard core LCC product (i.e. anything between Singapore Airlines and Egyptair), operational reliability?
To me, the perfect candidate is Interjet. They operate to a large number of Mexican cities (no international flights) from its new MEX hub. They switch many flights from TLC to MEX when they bought the slots from JR, well before MX went down under. They are a High efficency airline (Mexican Jet Blue kind off) and have great service and higher fares than others, plus airplanes that, although they do not have business class, offer plenty of space between seats (only 150 seats on their A320s) they can very well feed any European, American or SouthAmerican carrier. The problem with the other two (Volaris and Viva Aerobus) is that they have different hub cities far away from MEX. They just started to grow at MEX, and that is only because the government gave them free Slots when MX went down. Y4 is the king of TIJ and Viva started at MTY. From the two, Y4 is the closest to being the second option for an alliance, but they are now trying to start one with WN, as stated before and Viva is the Mexican Ryanair, so no alliance there.
From the airlines that are left, CO just signed an agreement with Aeromar, but Aeromar, with its turboprops (and some RJs) isn´t a good candidate, and although its business targeted in Mexico, they do not have Premium cabins and still only a few new jets they just received (they fly to ultra small mexican cities charging business customers ultra high fares in order to try not to compete to much with AM and the rest). The only one I am missing hasn´t started operations yet, and it is Aviacsa. If they fly again, it will take years for them to get newer planes that will be up to standard for any foreing carrier to sign an agreement with them and for them to start covering a great amount of mexican cities.
Well, hope this helps, as this is my opinion of the mexican aviation related to your question.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7647 posts, RR: 42
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1268 times:
Quoting skyone (Reply 4): Aeromar, with its turboprops (and some RJs) isn´t a good candidate, and although its business targeted in Mexico, they do not have Premium cabins and still only a few new jets they just received (they fly to ultra small mexican cities charging business customers ultra high fares in order to try not to compete to much with AM and the rest)
Yeah, FWIW, Aeromar would like to have everyone believe that its entire cabin is premium. Lol.