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First Woman Airline Pilot?  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5880 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13178 times:

Any idea, who was it, which airline? was it controversial?

[Edited 2011-04-03 22:03:15]

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User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2565 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13112 times:

1st woman overall - Helen Richey, hired by Central Airlines in 1934, but forced to leave less than a year later by the pilot's union. http://explorepahistory.com/hmarker.php?markerId=960

1st woman in the 'modern era' to fly as pilot - Emily Warner at Frontier Airlines in 1973. http://www.clearedtodream.org/Become...inAviation/tabid/1274/Default.aspx

HAL



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5880 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 13038 times:

Thanks so Helen couldnt have gone to court back then?

User currently offlinedeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1656 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 13032 times:

Actually Bonnie Tiburzi was the first female pilot to be hired by an airline in 1973, it was with American Airlines. She actually wrote a book, an enjoyable read and addresses a lot of the issues at the time.

User currently offlineScooter01 From Norway, joined Nov 2006, 1206 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12996 times:
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Turi Widerøe of Norway was hired by SAS in 1969. Earlier she had qualified as captain on the Norseman and Otter.
She started her SAS career with the CV-440 and went on to the Caravelle and the DC-9.

In 1969 she was awarded the Harmon Trophy
One of her uniforms is displayed at the National Air and Space Museum.


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User currently offlinepinhammond From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12971 times:

Yvonne Sintes was a Captain with Dan-Air in the 1960's. She was certainly the first female captain in the UK.

User currently offlineoldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12932 times:

First German female airline pilot was Rita Maiburg. She worked from 1971 as first officer and from 1976 as a captain.


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5880 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12831 times:

Interesting, keep adding, In Pakistan the first was Ayesha Rabia Naveed.in 1989 she is now Captain on ATR.

User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2565 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12817 times:

Quoting deltaflyertoo (Reply 3):
Actually Bonnie Tiburzi was the first female pilot to be hired by an airline in 1973, it was with American Airlines. She actually wrote a book, an enjoyable read and addresses a lot of the issues at the time.

It was close, but Bonnie was hired at American shortly after Emily got on at Frontier. But either way, they were both at the leading edge of the movement to get women into the cockpit. http://books.google.com/books?id=zvL...q=bonnie%20tiburzi%20pilot&f=false

Quoting HAL (Reply 1):
1st woman in the 'modern era' to fly as pilot - Emily Warner at Frontier Airlines in 1973.

Sorry I wasn't more clear, Emily was the first woman in America to get the job in the jet age. Other countries definitely had the US beat on this one.

Quoting 777way (Reply 2):
Thanks so Helen couldnt have gone to court back then?

Probably not. There weren't the same equal-opportunity laws back then that we have now. I think it would have just been thrown out of court.

HAL



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User currently offlineditzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 721 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12806 times:

In Australia, Deborah Lawrie was (to the best of my knowledge) the first female pilot for a commercial carrier. Her struggle against Ansett dates back to the mid to late 1970s. A notable feature of her struggle was a court order that Ansett put her on the payroll - which they did BUT did not allow her to fly. For an extended period of time she was paid as a pilot but not allowed to fly. One of Ansett's main arguments was a woman's menstrual cycle would affect her performance. Another argument was that passengers would be alarmed hearing a female voice over the PA coming from the flight deck.

I believe this pioneer in Aussie aviation is now a senior Airbus 330 captain at KLM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Lawrie


User currently offlineRJAF From Jordan, joined Jan 2007, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12798 times:

Taghrid Akasheh-Steityeh, was the first Arab woman to become an airline pilot with Alia - Royal Jordanian Airline back in the late 60s. I flew with her when I was a kid in the 70s where she was a Captain on a Boeing 720 JY-ADT on a flight between Amman and Athens. Obviously she is very remarkable as she didn't exactly have it easy in an all male industry back then let alone the male dominated conservative Arab society.. Hats off to her.


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User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12785 times:

Valentina Tereshkova was piloting the Vostok-6 on the non-scheduled route Earth-Space on June 16, 1963   


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User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4880 posts, RR: 37
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12763 times:

If we consider services like Air Ambulances, then Nancy-Bird Walton in 1935, hired to operate "Far West Children's Health Scheme". KLM also hired her for promotional work was one of the first - until joining the war effort.

Quoting ditzyboy (Reply 9):
Another argument was that passengers would be alarmed hearing a female voice over the PA coming from the flight deck.

Back in those days, it was expected that the womens place was in the kitchen or the laundry, certainly not at the controls of an airliner. Sadly, they must have forgotten the likes of Nancy-Bird Walton and Jacqueline Auriole (the French aviatrix). Stuffy corporate cultures. Unfortunately, some of those cultures and ideas still exist in this day and age.

Quoting RJAF (Reply 10):
Taghrid Akasheh-Steityeh, was the first Arab woman to become an airline pilot with Alia - Royal Jordanian Airline back in the late 60s. I flew with her when I was a kid in the 70s where she was a Captain on a Boeing 720 JY-ADT on a flight between Amman and Athens. Obviously she is very remarkable as she didn't exactly have it easy in an all male industry back then let alone the male dominated conservative Arab society.. Hats off to her.

Indeed, a remarkable achievement and hats off to her for turning the old status-quo on its head.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5880 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 12703 times:

Quoting HAL (Reply 8):
Quoting 777way (Reply 2):
Thanks so Helen couldnt have gone to court back then?

Probably not. There weren't the same equal-opportunity laws back then that we have now. I think it would have just been thrown out of court.

HAL

Good to see she managed to do excel in life even after that.

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 11):
Valentina Tereshkova was piloting the Vostok-6 on the non-scheduled route Earth-Space on June 16, 1963

Amazing.

Quoting RJAF (Reply 10):
Taghrid Akasheh-Steityeh, was the first Arab woman to become an airline pilot

I would guess that makes her the first in Muslim countries too.

[Edited 2011-04-04 02:36:57]

User currently offlinelh526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2376 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 12663 times:
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First Lufthansa female pilots where Evi Lausmann and Nicola Lunemann in the 1970s IIRC


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User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 12571 times:

First Aeroflot female pilots flew in 1938.

Quote:
On September 25 the Russian female pilots Grizodubova V. S. and Osipenko P. D. with navigator Paskova М. М. made a non-stop flight from Moscow to the Far East.
http://www.aeroflot.ru/cms/en/about/history_30-39



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5880 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12547 times:

Any one in East Asia?

[Edited 2011-04-04 04:39:04]

User currently offlinebx737 From Ireland, joined Sep 2001, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12464 times:

Grainne Cronin was the first female pilot in Aer Lingus in the 1970s. She retired last year.

In Spain Bettina Kadner was the first female pilot and flew with Spantax from 1969


User currently offlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5061 posts, RR: 43
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 12334 times:

Rosella Bjornson was the first female pilot of an airline jet transport aircraft in North America when she was hired by Transair in 1973. She flew as F28 F/O.

http://www.canadian99s.org/articles/P_bjornson.htm

Transair merged into Pacific Western Airlines, which merged with CP Air to form Canadian Airlines. This of course, merged into Air Canada, and she retired from Air Canada at age 60. A full career!



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User currently offlineearlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 12280 times:

http://konzern.lufthansa.com/de/themen/weibliche-flugkapitaene.html


… Marga von Etzdorf bereits in den zwanziger Jahren eine Junkers A50 namens „Kiek in die Welt“ steuerte, später flog sie als Pilotin bei Lufthansa die Junkers F13-Verkehrsflugzeuge.


So, Marga von Etzdorf was one of the earliest LH pilots back in the golden twenties...


User currently offlineRJAF From Jordan, joined Jan 2007, 320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12206 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 13):
I would guess that makes her the first in Muslim countries too.

777way....yes it could be. Not sure about Pakistan, Malaysia and Indonesia, Nigeria and other non-Arab muslim countries. It will be interesting to find out.



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5880 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 12 hours ago) and read 11954 times:

Pakistan's first I pointed out above.

User currently offlineNuD38 From Germany, joined Jan 2011, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 7 hours ago) and read 11847 times:

Not an airline pilot but Sabiha Gokcen from Turkey is the first female combat pilot who got her combat license on 30 August 1937 and joined her first operation in 1937 too.

Also for the records, first black military pilot in aviation history is Ahmet Ali (Arap Ahmet) from Ottoman Air force. (1916)


User currently offlineSNfreak From Belgium, joined Feb 2005, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 7 hours ago) and read 11822 times:

Yvonne Cunha from Belgium
First Belgian female pilot to fly commercially
and first female in the world to fly a Boeing jet (707) in 1974



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User currently offlinePihero From France, joined Jan 2005, 4608 posts, RR: 77
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 7 hours ago) and read 11819 times:
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Reading this thread, it looks as if in the "western world", the first female airline pilot was Jacqueline Dubut who graduated from SFA in 1967 and joined Air Inter., first on Fokker F27, then the Caravelle, making her as well the first jet transport pilot.

Quoting NuD38 (Reply 22):
Also for the records, first black military pilot in aviation history is Ahmet Ali (Arap Ahmet) from Ottoman Air force. (1916)

... and who was with Eugene Bullard the only black combat pilot of WW1.
The story of Eugene Bullard is one of the saddest in aviation, as he was the victim of racism, bigotry and prejudice.
The fact that... "He was buried with military honors by French officers in the French War Veterans' section of Flushing Cemetery in the New York City borough of Queens. is to the United States' shame.



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25 Post contains links centrair : Japan's first female commercial airline captain was Ari Fuji in 2010! Ari Fuji Becomes Japan's First Female Captain Of A Commercial Airliner There are
26 otnysaslhr : Yvonne, having started out as a stewardess in 1951 and then became an ATC offficer, joined Morton Air Services as pilot in 1965. In 1969 she joined D
27 Post contains links ScottishDavie : Yvonne Sintes may have been the first woman to carry the formal rank of captain in the UK but she certainly wasn't the UK's first female airline pilot
28 Post contains images Viscount724 : The original poster asked who was the first female airline pilot, not restricted to the USA. I flew on several CP 737-200 flights with her as captain
29 Post contains images longhauler : It's funny you posted that picture of Rosie on the air-stairs of an F28, as that exact picture was on the cover of Canadian Aviation magazine, and I
30 Aircellist : I read with much interest Danielle Décuré's book. She was the first at Air France. Is she still there?
31 n9801f : This was big news all over US aviation when I was a kid. Later, I met Emily. She had hero status within Frontier - with both women and men - and she
32 CitationJet : Braniff Airlines' third pilot was a female, Bobby Burton, in 1928. She eventually married Virgil Turnbull, another Braniff pilot. Bobby was hired by B
33 28L28L : Working at PSP (TW) in 1983 I saw Emily and her fellow crew member walking out to their 737. I immediately recognized her and knew that I had a photo
34 Post contains links kaitak : Here's a story from an Australian newspaper about the Philippines' first woman pilot, who started out with PAL and joined Cebu Pacific in 2003 and is
35 Viscount724 : As a sidenote, three of Boeing's commercial programs -- the 737, 747 and 767 -- are now headed by women. The vice president and general manager of all
36 FlySSC : Jacqueline DUBUT was hired by Air Inter as a Nord 262 Copilot in May 1967. She is the first woman pilot in western Europe. Danielle Décuré retired
37 ScottishDavie : No she isn't. See my post at Reply 27.
38 Post contains links atalanta89 : Fiorenza de Bernardi was the first female pilot of an airline jet transport aircraft in Italy. (1967 Aeralpi) http://www.fiorenzadebernardi.it/PrimoLi
39 DocLightning : I remember once hearing an interview with one of BA's first female pilots. She said that once while she was F/O on a 742 flight somewhere, the Captai
40 Post contains links BA174 : That would be Lynn Barton who now has a command on the 744 and opened T5 she was BAs first female captain. The interview with her on the classics is
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