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China Southern A380 Cabin Layout  
User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 645 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 15502 times:

According to a source on the web, the spec for the CZ A380 cabin layout has been revealed, showing 506 seats in a F8C70Y428 configuration.

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new.../china-southern-a380-layout-leaked



Also speculated is that the first route will be Beijing-Paris.

China Southern said last week that they expect delivery of the first frame in August.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...hinasouthern-idUSH9E7EG01Z20110329

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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5855 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 15464 times:

Did CZ need A380? I thought the 77W would be enough for them.

User currently offlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 15382 times:

Interesting to note there is no premium economy... Whilst not a very luxurious layout W does feature on some of CZs A330s and is very popular on routes out of Australia.

It will be interesting to see the finish of these seats, the interrior of CZs aircarft look cheap to me especailly their F-cabins. I hope this is a trend they can turn around to make sure they are of a global standard. Their ground service is bit ordinary due to under trained under resourced staff, how does their inflight service fair?

I wonder what other routes we will see this aircraft on? I imagine it won't be to long before we see a CZ A380 down in Aus! Exciting indeed.


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1749 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 14273 times:

It seems that CZ have gone for a similar lay out to SQ with their Q380s:

- First class seats in the forward section of the lower deck.
- Business Class seats in the forward and mid sections of the upper deck.
- Economy seating in the mid and rear sections of the lower deck, and the rear section of the upper deck.

I wonder if other airlines like BA will adopt this style of layout.

Emirates for example has premium on the upper deck and economy on the lower deck, as a comparison.



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User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8482 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 14005 times:

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 3):
It seems that CZ have gone for a similar lay out to SQ with their Q380s:

To me that's the layout that makes the most business sense because it allows both premium cabins to board/deplane at the same time using the forward jetbridges on either floor. With EK's layout Business Class passenger have to wait (I assume) for First class passenger because there's only 1 jetbridge for the top floor and if the airline serves an airport without that top floor jetbridge it gets even uglier.


User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1066 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 13812 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 4):
With EK's layout Business Class passenger have to wait (I assume) for First class passenger

Yes, I flown EK F on the A380 a few weeks ago and the Business Class passengers had to wait for us to deplane before being allowed to deplane. However, it didn't take too long for the 14 First Class passengers to deplane, maximum 1 minute? Wouldn't make much of a difference I guess.

Speaking of which, they seem to be using the same Business Class seats as EK? Wonder if there will be suites in First Class or just a normal First Class cabin. Economy Class better have PTVs.. With AVOD of course!

[Edited 2011-04-05 08:41:42]


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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 12134 times:

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Thread starter):

Also speculated is that the first route will be Beijing-Paris

Strange as they used to talk about PEK-CAN (and another domestic route) as the initial route for their A380. At present, CZ not even flies between PEK and CDG. Isn't a A380 a little bit large to launch a route (even though both are Skyteam hubs)? I reckon that 2 AF 777s + 1 CZ would be a very sharp increase in available seats on CDG-PEK. Any word that AF will decrease the number of flights between CDG and PEK?


User currently offlinespeedmarque From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 12103 times:

Looks like they are the first airline to put the cabin crew rest area at the back of the upper deck too.

User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8482 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10867 times:

Quoting initious (Reply 5):
Yes, I flown EK F on the A380 a few weeks ago and the Business Class passengers had to wait for us to deplane before being allowed to deplane. However, it didn't take too long for the 14 First Class passengers to deplane, maximum 1 minute? Wouldn't make much of a difference I guess.

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User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8611 times:
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Quoting speedmarque (Reply 7):

Looks like they are the first airline to put the cabin crew rest area at the back of the upper deck too.

Does this mean there is no rear staircase either? Can see one on the schematic.

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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31117 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8534 times:
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Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Thread starter):
Also speculated is that the first route will be Beijing-Paris.
Quoting LJ (Reply 6):
Strange as they used to talk about PEK-CAN (and another domestic route) as the initial route for their A380.



Maybe PEK-CAN will be for training and familiarization purposes and then the first international route will be PEK-CDG?

[Edited 2011-04-05 14:42:46]

User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2182 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8507 times:

Quoting LJ (Reply 6):
Strange as they used to talk about PEK-CAN (and another domestic route) as the initial route for their A380.

Both CAN and CDG might be the "first" route. CAN could be the first "unofficial" route when there's only 1 aircraft available, mainly intended for crew training purposes, while CDG could later become the first "official" route (which is intended to make a profit and stay on the long-term) when there are enough aircraft to do the rotation (I'm assuming 2 are needed if flights are planned to be daily) and also enough trained crew. There's also the possibility that CAN can be flown by the A380s during their (presumably long) layover at PEK between 2 CDG runs, so that they don't stay idle on a tarmac making zero revenue.

Is it speculation or are there any press releases yet that can prove us right/wrong?

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 3):
It seems that CZ have gone for a similar lay out to SQ with their Q380s:

- First class seats in the forward section of the lower deck.
- Business Class seats in the forward and mid sections of the upper deck.
- Economy seating in the mid and rear sections of the lower deck, and the rear section of the upper deck.

I wonder if other airlines like BA will adopt this style of layout.

Well, that's already what AF and QF use (minus the fact that QF's Y upper deck is an Y+ configuration with only 7 abreast). Can't recall what KE is supposed to look like though.

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 3):
Emirates for example has premium on the upper deck and economy on the lower deck, as a comparison.

And so does LH.



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User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 645 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6246 times:

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 2):
Interesting to note there is no premium economy... Whilst not a very luxurious layout W does feature on some of CZs A330s and is very popular on routes out of Australia.

I always liked the W class concept myself, so I agree, the absence of such may be a drawback. But overall, this looks like a great config. Those F seats sure look like suite-style areas. And the staggered C cabin seem to hold promise too - all seats face directly forward, and there are equal shares of seats suitable for travel partners as well as solo flyers there. Wonder if any of the large non-seating areas include any type of signature feature, ie bar or such. Probably not. The proportion of premium cabins relative to economy surprised me a bit here, as I had expected CZ to lean more toward the basics.

Thanks all for sharing your thoughts on this.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6122 times:

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Thread starter):
showing 506 seats in a F8C70Y428 configuration.

Ouch... Would this be the first carrier to introduce a high density configure for International flights on the A380...?

Quoting 777way (Reply 1):
Did CZ need A380? I thought the 77W would be enough for them.

From my understanding CZ do not operate the B77W, unless you mean why didn't CZ order the B77W...?

EK413



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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31117 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6026 times:
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Quoting EK413 (Reply 13):
Ouch... Would this be the first carrier to introduce a high density configure for International flights on the A380?

No.

LH has 526 [8F / 98C / 420Y] and AF has 538 [9F / 80 C / 449Y]. EK's LHR birds are 517 [14 F / 76C / 427Y], I believe. QR have said their A88s will seat around 517 and TG have said their A388s will seat 501.


User currently offlineYYZAMS From Canada, joined Feb 2011, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5933 times:

Interesting layout...Is it me or does this photo somewhat remind you of a old photo from your grandfather's album that has been transported across the mountains and border in a coffee can?

Who is next to get the next A380 fresh of the line?


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5633 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 14):

No.

LH has 526 [8F / 98C / 420Y] and AF has 538 [9F / 80 C / 449Y]. EK's LHR birds are 517 [14 F / 76C / 427Y], I believe. QR have said their A88s will seat around 517 and TG have said their A388s will seat 501.

Cheers... Wasn't aware other carriers configures had surpassed the 500 seating range...

Quoting YYZAMS (Reply 15):
Who is next to get the next A380 fresh of the line?

Valid question worth getting an answer... I would have to guess MH...?

EK413



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5855 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5453 times:

Yes thats what I meant 77w or 748.

User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5101 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 8):
It's not a matter of time, it's a matter of perception Making all your premium customers feel like they're number 1 is important

I would agree with only part of that. Thing is, if a 'premium' customer has to feel by perceiving like they are 'number 1'.......then they aren't really that important after all. Remember, perception has no definitive bearing on reality


User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3397 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5018 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 16):

Valid question worth getting an answer... I would have to guess MH...?

EK413

IIRC there's four KE birds in various states of completion and the first one should be delviered early summer.

I'm wondering if CZ will order a top-up soon as 5 is a very samll fleet.


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