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US To Add FC To Large RJs & Upgrade Product  
User currently offlineFutureUScapt From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 765 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5204 times:

US announced today that it will add first class seats to all 110 large RJs (CR7/CR9/E70/E75). Installation will begin in September and is estimated to be completed by January 2012. The CR7/CR9/E70 aircraft will each have 9F while the E175 will have 8F.

Also effective this spring, US will make adjustments to both its domestic F product and Envoy product. Perhaps most notably, glassware will finally make its return on all meal flights (flights that are at least 3.5 hrs in duration) that are not operated by 733/734/E90 aircraft. To note, no B733/734 currently flies a route that would qualify for meal service and the only E90 route at present is a handful of PHL-DFW flights.

http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix....rticle_print&ID=1547497&highlight=

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User currently offlinepanam330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2675 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5111 times:

Great news! Bringing them on par with the other 3 legacy regional hard products, while also finally updating those ratty CR9s.

User currently offlineAZNCSA4QF744ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5079 times:

About time they jump on the band wagon with everybody else on FC regional flights. Good for US Airways.

User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1306 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5083 times:

This was long overdue. Hopefully the express carriers will be able to train the flight attendants to adhere to first class standards

User currently onlineUALFAson From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 730 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5051 times:

Great! Now how about adding audio and video programming, complimentary pillows and blankets, meals instead of a snack basket and a morning beverage service on red-eye transcons, and your first class product might actually come close to being competitive with some of your peers.

Signed, a United Premier who's still kicking himself over the huge number of Mileage Plus miles he wasted flying US Airways' absolutely crappy First Class product



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User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4985 times:

I find it odd that there are more FC seats on the RJ's then there are on the West 737's.

User currently offlineflyusairways From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 178 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4923 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 5):
I find it odd that there are more FC seats on the RJ's then there are on the West 737's.

US Airways also indicated today that all 737-300s will be exiting the fleet by 2012, while 737-400s will be gone by 2014. So, the disproportionately low number of seats on West 733s won't be an issue for long. These fleet reductions will be negated by the delivery of 12 A320-family aircraft in 2011 and another 12 in 2012, as stated during US Airways' Media Day today.

The addition of FC to larger RJs is certainly another step in the right direction for US Airways. I look forward to trying out the new configuration later this year, and hope that it does generate the expected positive returns,



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User currently offlineeraugrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4844 times:

Theres a thread on this I posted... I guess it was closed...  . This is great news. They had to do this to compete with other carriers.

Desmond in ILM...



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User currently onlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8525 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4841 times:

By 2012, US should have a consistent domestic FC product, and also fully refurbished / updated Envoy class and coach seats in all A330. This is the bare minimum necessary to deliver what customers expect.

Quoting FutureUScapt (Thread starter):
Perhaps most notably, glassware will finally make its return on all meal flights (

So it sounds like on most flights, (especially RJ), glassware is not part of the product. That doesn't seem right. They really need to field an actual product. I'm not talking filet mignon on a silver tray, come on. It's the dignity of the situation. Glad to hear US is still around and making improvements. Exiting the 737, for them, is a good thing.


User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4058 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4764 times:

Quoting Flighty (Reply 8):
So it sounds like on most flights, (especially RJ), glassware is not part of the product. That doesn't seem right.

It's been quite a while. I don't know when East did away with it, but even back in 07-08 it was extremely rare to find any kind of glassware in the galley on West aircraft. Of course, this was HP at the time, and when the merger went through, all the branded glassware that WAS spotted...sort of vanished very quickly if you catch my drift.


User currently offlineusxguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1017 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4734 times:

Quoting flyusairways (Reply 6):

US Airways also indicated today that all 737-300s will be exiting the fleet by 2012, while 737-400s will be gone by 2014. So, the disproportionately low number of seats on West 733s won't be an issue for long. These fleet reductions will be negated by the delivery of 12 A320-family aircraft in 2011 and another 12 in 2012, as stated during US Airways' Media Day today.

so replacing 54 aircraft with 24....



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5806 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4576 times:

Quoting FutureUScapt (Thread starter):
The CR7/CR9/E70 aircraft will each have 9F

That's more than UA flies, as their CR7 first offering is 6F.
Granted, I don't think the CR7s have ovens, so meal service is still limited to cold items.
Am I wrong on that?


User currently offlineatcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1204 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4524 times:

I heard a rumor that YV's CRJ9s were supposed to get new Y seats as well, possibly paid for by US, to be installed with the new F seats. Has anyone else heard this? If it's true, then maybe there IS a God, and maybe he HAS been listening to our prayers...and complaints. Aside from the issue of the HP logo and colors, the inspiration for the design of those seats are a pile of stones that smell like feet. Other than that, they're very.....functional.

User currently offlineFutureUScapt From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 765 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4424 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 5):
I find it odd that there are more FC seats on the RJ's then there are on the West 737's.
Quoting flyusairways (Reply 6):
US Airways also indicated today that all 737-300s will be exiting the fleet by 2012, while 737-400s will be gone by 2014. So, the disproportionately low number of seats on West 733s won't be an issue for long

All 12 of the remaining west 733s will be retired by the end of this year.

Quoting usxguy (Reply 10):
so replacing 54 aircraft with 24....

More narrowbody deliveries are slated for 2013 and 2014, so that it will essentially be a 1:1 ratio for entry:exit. US is within a few shells of the minimum fleet count for both the east and west, so they couldn't reduce the fleet by that amount even if they wanted to. The only exception to this is the E190s, which do not count towards the minimum fleet count.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 11):
That's more than UA flies, as their CR7 first offering is 6F.
Granted, I don't think the CR7s have ovens, so meal service is still limited to cold items.
Am I wrong on that?

If you are referring to UA, I'm unaware of what the meal service is like on their CR7s. If you are referring to US, it is largely a moot point as there are no CR7 routes of 3.5+hrs.

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 12):
I heard a rumor that YV's CRJ9s were supposed to get new Y seats as well, possibly paid for by US, to be installed with the new F seats. Has anyone else heard this? If it's true, then maybe there IS a God, and maybe he HAS been listening to our prayers...and complaints.

This is indeed true and in fact there are already a few flying around with new leather interiors. I'm not sure if the bulkheads were modified from the old HP livery to the US livery or not. There will probably be pictures on this site shortly, if there aren't some already, of the new interior. And yes, you are right - it was MUCH needed.


User currently offlineFutureUScapt From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 765 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4422 times:

Dupe post, please delete

[Edited 2011-04-07 05:20:27]

User currently offlineFoxThree From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4324 times:

Reading the press release, do flights really have to be 3.5 hours or longer to get a meal in First? That's ridiculous!

User currently offlineeraugrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3957 times:

Quoting FoxThree (Reply 15):
Reading the press release, do flights really have to be 3.5 hours or longer to get a meal in First? That's ridiculous!

That is rediculous... I think they should offer a small B.O.B. meals for Express flights now that these birds replace or supliment Larger narrow bodies that would on the same flight. At least a B.O.B. snack box. Delta will offer real glasses and plates in FC. I wonder if US will be doing the same?

Desmond in ILM,



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User currently offlineOak522 From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

The US site now stratifies the "menu" into three flight types -- 90min, 90min-3.5hrs., 3.5hrs -- and I'm nervous that the improvements for mid-range flights actually represent reductions for short flights. Pre-departure drinks and a second snack basket pass are rarities on flights of late, and I'd had for the snack basket to also wither here.

User currently onlinen7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1733 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3512 times:
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Quoting flyusairways (Reply 6):
These fleet reductions will be negated by the delivery of 12 A320-family aircraft in 2011 and another 12 in 2012, as stated during US Airways' Media Day today.

All A321's for 2011. I believe US still has a little time to decide on equipment mix for 2012. Currently 2012 is listed as A320 series, meaning 319/320/321.

Quoting atcsundevil (Reply 12):
I heard a rumor that YV's CRJ9s were supposed to get new Y seats as well, possibly paid for by US, to be installed with the new F seats. Has anyone else heard this? If it's true, then maybe there IS a God, and maybe he HAS been listening to our prayers...and complaints. Aside from the issue of the HP logo and colors, the inspiration for the design of those seats are a pile of stones that smell like feet. Other than that, they're very.....functional.

I am not sure that they are actual new seats but, yes, Mesa is required to overhaul the interiors of the CR9 fleet. There will be new seat covers, new bulkheads and a thorough refreshing of the rest of the interior. It's spelled out in the bankruptcy settlement with US Airways. My understanding is the Mesa specific deal places the cost on Mesa; the first class installs are born by Airways across the Express system.


User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2457 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 3091 times:

Like I posted in the other thread, its about time they finally swapped out those old HP interiors on the CRJ-900s.
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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3078 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2950 times:

Currently the block time on PHL-IAH is 3:52, which is on an E175. Will F get a meal service, or at the very least, a snack box?

I'm anxious to see the envoy upgrades in full detail, I believe there will now be a choice of appetizers.



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User currently offlinePHLwok From United States of America, joined May 2007, 504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

Quoting n7371f (Reply 18):
I am not sure that they are actual new seats but, yes, Mesa is required to overhaul the interiors of the CR9 fleet. There will be new seat covers, new bulkheads and a thorough refreshing of the rest of the interior. It's spelled out in the bankruptcy settlement with US Airways. My understanding is the Mesa specific deal places the cost on Mesa; the first class installs are born by Airways across the Express system.

There's apparently at least one upgraded Mesa CR9 flying around, less an F section, but I haven't seen pictures yet or heard which registration got it.

Who knows, with an interior upgrade and F going in, I might stop actively avoiding these flights. I've always had good crews on Mesa, so maybe their CR9s will finally be a pleasant experience.


User currently offlineMainliner From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2739 times:

On occasion I have seen RAH subbing other (non-US liveried) aircraft onto US routes. With first class seats being installed, I'm hoping this will end. Kind of a detriment to the branding when your aircraft shows a different airline's logo and color scheme...


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User currently offlineIndyWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 353 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Quoting Mainliner (Reply 22):

They don't fly FULL liveries of other airlines. If you notice, the tail is usually painted blue even if the rest of the airplane might be in some other colors. No name of ANY airline is displayed on these flights. These are spare aircraft that are used when an aircraft might be in mx or some other reason. These are commonly refered to as "blue tails". After all, which would you rather have? An airplane painted in basic colors of one airline sans title...or a canceled flight?


User currently onlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3769 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2342 times:

Quoting UALFAson (Reply 4):
Now how about adding audio and video programming

Yes. Throw those of us who sit behind the first couple rows of the cabin a bone, US.



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25 boberito6589 : I think it was in the flight global article about the 321NEO where it says US is set to receive 12 A321s in 2011 and 2012 then 16 A319/20/21 in 2013
26 flyguy89 : I know! Their 3.5 hour standard for meal service in F is ridiculous and, I believe, the worst among their competitors. I thought US was supposed to b
27 FutureFO : The PHL-IAH is blocked 4:05. Not 3:52. Having worked it quite a bit and it is a long flight. Having the F cabin might offer some reprieve as it is a h
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