EYKD From Russia, joined Dec 2006, 191 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10934 times:
Per information from Russian aviation forums Sukhoi and Armavia have commenced the formal delivery activity earlier today (Monday, April 11th, 2011). It is believed to last for 2 or 3 days. The official celebration is preliminary set up on April 19th.
mhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 537 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 10235 times:
I am really interested in the SSJ's delivery schedule. Like most aircraft, it really looks great in Aeroflot's colors and I think its competitive economics and reasonable acquisition costs give the Russian aerospace industry the platform it needs to build its aftermarket service infrastructure before the MRJ comes along.
I think the SSJ will work great in the 90-110 seat range and I would like to see aircraft of this size replace more frequent but smaller CR1s and 2s here in the United States, especially with Delta. Wikipedia reports that only 6+4 have been ordered by US companies (Willis Lease and Finance, of Willis Tower fame). Maybe they will go to a start up or to a new regional carrier here.
Anyway, as soon as there are more flying, I hope to see more orders for the type. Like the T-204-100, it probably deserves them.
davs5032 From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 370 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 10156 times:
Quoting mhkansan (Reply 4): I think the SSJ will work great in the 90-110 seat range and I would like to see aircraft of this size replace more frequent but smaller CR1s and 2s here in the United States, especially with Delta.
I'd like to see it as well, but the chances of it are likely slim to none..and that's not because its Russian made. Compared to a CRJ1000, it's just too big and bulky to be competitive economics-wise at that capacity. So, I guess I disagree with you, in that I feel its economics are actually going to hinder its competitiveness, especially in western markets at a time when fuel burn is increasingly an issue.
irelayer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1072 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9964 times:
Quoting mhkansan (Reply 4): Anyway, as soon as there are more flying, I hope to see more orders for the type. Like the T-204-100, it probably deserves them.
Sure those two aircraft might look like a good buy on paper, but if they were really "deserving" of more orders I think they would get them. Don't tell me it's about bias or reputation either. 20 years ago I wouldn't have imagined flying on something from Brazil. But thousands do, every day. The Russian aircraft industry needs to get it's act together if it wants to be a global player. They have a chance with the SSJ.
cslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 821 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9925 times:
I'd like to see an American carrier like DL or WN fly the Superjet 100. A just under 100-seat jet would do wonders in air transport system in the USA offering lower costs than a Regional Jet but less seats than a B717, B736 or A318.
I wouldn´t call it terrible. Besides, this comes from the International Edition which tends to be a lot better vs. the Latin American one. Plus, the information cites the executives as sources and the agreement was signed by the higher ups in both companies so in this article in particular, I tend to believe what it says.
As for your question about why Venice, there is no answer for that in the article and I am really not that familiar with the Superjet program.
pylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1392 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 8562 times:
We here also put much hope on SSJ-100 (or SU9 as it appears in schedules - and I like this!).
If successful enough it will greatly help MS-21 project with EIS 2016.
There is an important phrase in the official document of taking the aircraft by Armavia:
"The aircraft complies with technical specifications applied...".
Only many hours in service can prove it.
But if SU9 really is close to specifications, it is supposed to be better in terms of fuel consumption compared to E-190 and CRJ-1000.
It is especially interesting having in mind that it is substantially wider with 3+2 and 18" seats.
Severnaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 8490 times:
Quoting pylon101 (Reply 15): "The aircraft complies with technical specifications applied...".
Yeah and this is in sharp contrast with Aeroflot's remarks today
Quote: "We have to decide how Aeroflot would receive the planes, since the deadline set in the contract has expired. Aeroflot also has questions regarding technical parameters," Levitin said, adding Aeroflot believed that planes did not match the contract technically.
On paper, SSJ-100 does look like a worthy competitor to E-190. I am a bit surprised that SSJ-100 is nearly 10% lighter than E-190. It seems to me that 100 seats is the dividing line between equally matched 4-abreast and 5-abreast platform. A hypothetical SSJ-120(113-118 seats) should have much better seat fuel burn numbers than both E-195 and CS100.
Anything beyond 100 seats, 5-abreast is a better platform than 4-abreast. Similarly, anything beyond 145 seats, 6-abreast is a better platform than 5-abreast. I hope Embraer elects to go with a 6-abreast( and not 5-abreast platform) for its next project as the demand for 5-abreast (100 to 145 seats) is much smaller than that of 6-abreast platform. Furthermore, EMB should build a light 6-abreast platform that has unbeatable economics for sub 2,000nm missions relative to A320NEO and B737NEO/B797.
Severnaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7426 times:
Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 22): That is certainly a stunt Rossiya appeared to pull with the An-148 put downs and then sudden extra orders.
No way to describe that as a stunt. The initial FV An-148 frames were horrible. I've seen internal presentations of FV management with detailed maintenance reports of all minor & major concerns. Later frames were about a difference of day & night and that explains the follow up order.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11494 posts, RR: 62 Reply 24, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7240 times:
Quoting Severnaya (Reply 23): No way to describe that as a stunt. The initial FV An-148 frames were horrible. I've seen internal presentations of FV management with detailed maintenance reports of all minor & major concerns.
I presume they weren't the same ones which were quoted in Flight International then, because it was the most contradictory thing I've ever read. Certainly the public side of what went on screamed stunt.
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25 queb: I compare with the MRJ90LR, it's hard to believe it is (the MRJ) a new generation jet. OEW.......................not known MTOW.....................9
26 EYKD: April 16, 2011, YEREVAN. - The Russian airliner “Sukhoi Superjet” will arrive in Armenia on April 19 without delays, Spokeswoman for Armavia Air C
27 pylon101: Unlike Armavia, Aeroflot is tough on first SSJ frames. They claim that fuel consumption is 10% more than specified in contract. Sukhoi is responding t
28 Severnaya: I.E. Levitin will resign from Aeroflot board before July 1st.
29 pylon101: Do we have any definition of "early airframes"? And what is considered normal when we say "first airframes are heavier"? The same issue was with A-388
30 EYKD: 95007 ferry flight started earlier today. The bird has already landed in OVB on its way to Yerevan.
31 EYKD: 95007 is in EVN now. Supposedly, reports from delivery ceremony should follow soon.
32 EYKD: Sorry for a little bit overdoing, but finally, we've got the news report: Armenian flag-carrier Armavia has taken delivery of the first serially-produ
33 Severnaya: Great news! Thanks for posting. From when will it operate the EVN-MOW flights?
34 EYKD: The carrier's representative in Moscow, Gagik Sarkisyan, says it will enter commercial service in a few days following completion of its registration
35 pylon101: Great pictures. Thanks! In the meantime "Sukhoi" and Aeroflot keep arguing (actually in a light manner). Sukhoi said the earlier frames delivered to A
36 Aviopic: A rather old fashion viewpoint for anything coming from Russia. It's not a flying pencil alright but not bulky either, in fact it is the lightest +/-
37 pylon101: A very good post, Aviopic. From some angle SSJ may look bulky. But it is due to wing box which is already designed for a stretched version. And we sho
38 Aviopic: But a stretched version might need bigger engines. and that were I think the SSJ will meet the same problem as the E-jet. On both the engines are alm
39 pylon101: It was probably incorrect question. I never looked into CS-300. Now I did. 2-3 config mislead me a little bit + long negotiations with Sukhoi. Anyway.
40 EYKD: 95007 just made a technical flight to TBS. According to the source in EVN it is now scheduled for flight U8 508 to SVO with arrival time 04:30 Moscow
41 AM744: We aviation fans should celebrate. Here's to long and profitable years of service Can't wait for Interjet to get theirs. I sure will book a domestic f
42 davs5032: I specifically said in my post that my views were NOT based on it being Russian made. Sure, the SSJ might not be bulky... it's actually pretty lean a
43 queb: Bombardier numbers : Are you sure? As per Wiki, the F100 with Tay 650 (1710 nm version) : OEW....................54,100 lbs MTOW..................101
44 EYKD: SSJ100 has performed its 1st commercial flight! U8 owner Mikhail Bagdassarov was on board as promised.[Edited 2011-04-20 21:15:08]
45 pylon101: This is a good day for all Russian avation fans. It should be noted that without Alenia, SNECMA and Boeing I could not have happened. Waiting for pics
46 EYKD: Some pictures from SVO: Arrival - http://aviaforum.ru/showpost.php?p=823951&postcount=3252 Departure - http://aviaforum.ru/showpost.php?p=823988&a
47 Aviopic: Yes, at MTOW it will do max range like any other a/c and...................... ? My remark was to max payload and how much fuel could be added, thus
48 Aquila3: Long live the SSJ100! I would hope that more intelligent carriers would have ordered here, too, but, considering the poor one that we have, maybe it
49 Aviopic: I see what you mean just now. The marketeers might have used a std config of 110 seats(the std. NG config), don't know and not important either. Hihi
50 ZKCIF: Ah, I see your point. You've got good parents, mate. What's your name in passport? Alesha Boeing? Alen Boysneck? Lucky You!
51 TK1244: Nice looking aircraft, congrats to Armavia and Sukhoi.
52 328JET: A very important day! I am really happy about that new aircraft and hope we will get some flights to germany soon.
53 EYKD: It is now scheduled as U8 105 to ATH. Attention Athens spotters! Catch your luck!
54 pylon101: Looks like "Armavia" has gaven SSJ a full scale start. Here is a week ahead schedule. Taken from avia.ru forum: April 22nd: EVN - Athens - EVN - Donet
55 r2rho: That is indeed very generous, one can only dream of such spaciousness in Western Europe and the US. Is it possible to add another seat row in a dense
56 pylon101: Hm.. It's an interesting question. I can't be sure but I believe the number of seats is in certification. So 18" wide and 32" pitch is what this versi
57 EYKD: There should be no problems with adding another seat row to make up 103 pax @ 30" layout. A pair of type C doors is certified for up to 110 persons wh
58 queb: Actually, the type B is certified for up to 98 pax.