Airport From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 1397 posts, RR: 9 Posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3711 times:
Hello!
Me and my significant other (who is as much of an aviation geek as I am) were having a light-hearted year-long lively debate over the pronounciation of a few aviation entities. Because most of the aviation conversations we've had in our lives happen in print or online form, we rarely get to hear out loud the pronounciation of these frequently heard companies/products/things involving aviation.
Any help is GREATLY appreciated so I can fix her ignorance (don't worry, she'll be reading this post I'm sure)...
1) Embraer
EASILY the biggest subject of debate since this word is so often used in our conversations... I claim it's pronounced Em-Bree-Air. She says it's pronounced Em-Brair (2 syllables), and that's the way Air Canada pronounces it in their announcements. Saying her version makes me feel like I'm chewing on peanut butter. No way, I say!
Who's right, me or her? Please please please please please PLEASE let it be me.
2) Mexicana
I've always pronounced it Mecks-ih-Cana. She's always pronounced it Meh-hee-cana. I claim it can be pronounced either way... she thinks it's supposed to be only pronounced Meh-hee-cana.
Who's right, me or her?
3) 717, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787
I've always said Seven-Seventeen, Seven-Forty-Seven, Seven-Fifty-Seven, Seven-Sixty-Seven, Seven-Seventy-Seven, Seven-Eighty-Seven.
She's always said Seven-One-Seven, Seven-Four-Seven, Seven-Five-Seven, Seven-Six-Seven, Triple Seven, Seven-Eight-Seven.
Who's right, me or her?
4) EVA Air
I've always pronounced it like Evuh Air, she always says E-V-A Air. I dispute it with evidence that while in Seattle over the PA the gate agent said "This is the final boarding call for Evuh Air flight..." etc. Who's right, me or her?
5) Yakovlev
I've always said it Yak-o-lev, thinking the "v" is silent or not generally pronounced... she's always said it Ya-Kov-Lev. Who's right, me or her?
6) LAN
I've always said LAN as in rhymes with "can" or "man", but she's said LAN as in sounds like "lawn." Who's right, me or her?
7) Dornier
I've always pronounced it like Door-Knee-Air. She's pronounced it like Door-Knee-Eh. Who's right, me or her?
8) Illyushin
I've always said it like ih-loo-shin, she's always said eel-you-shin. Who's right, me or her?
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We're both going to be pilots in the future, so I guess getting the pronounciations right is of some importance.
Man oh MAN I want to be right so bad, I'm so giddy to see the replies which I'm sure will declare how right I am!! Yes this is a bit of a light-hearted topic, don't take anything too seriously, and like I say, we'll BOTH be carefully reading the responses, so I'll say to my girlfriend in advanced: IN YOUR FACE!!!
Oh by the way, she doesn't know how to spell MD-80. *snicker*
EASILY the biggest subject of debate since this word is so often used in our conversations... I claim it's pronounced Em-Bree-Air. She says it's pronounced Em-Brair (2 syllables), and that's the way Air Canada pronounces it in their announcements. Saying her version makes me feel like I'm chewing on peanut butter. No way, I say!
Who's right, me or her? Please please please please please PLEASE let it be me
Neither! It's Em-bra-air (3 syllables), but that's still an adaptation, since the Portuguese pronunciation is still different, but you wouldn't be able to replicate it, so stick to Em-bra-air.
PapaChuck From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 134 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3591 times:
1) E-Jet
2) The American in me says Mecks-ih-cana, but the pilots always say Meh-hee-cana. The truth lies south of the border.
3) 717 - DC-9 Advanced
727 - Still climbing
737 - Short bus
747 - What hump?
757 - Hot rod
767 - Heavy hot rod
777 - The one with all the sevens
787 - Sarcastic nickname pending certification
4) Wiki says E-V-A. Wiki also says 長榮航空. Wiki is wise.
5) Yak
6) See number 2.
7) They still make those?
8) Gesundheit
Papa Charlie: redefining useless.
-edit-
A word of advice to the OP:
For every question in a relationship there are three answers: a) the right answer, b) the wrong answer, c) her answer. When in doubt, Charlie out.
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2235 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3488 times:
I noticed you left out the 707. Almost everyone calls it the seven-oh-seven. Hardly any ever called it the seven-zero-seven, despite the fact that the middle character is a digit, and not a letter.
EASILY the biggest subject of debate since this word is so often used in our conversations... I claim it's pronounced Em-Bree-Air. She says it's pronounced Em-Brair (2 syllables), and that's the way Air Canada pronounces it in their announcements. Saying her version makes me feel like I'm chewing on peanut butter. No way, I say!
Who's right, me or her? Please please please please please PLEASE let it be me.
Neither is entirely correct, but her version is much closer.
I've always pronounced it Mecks-ih-Cana. She's always pronounced it Meh-hee-cana. I claim it can be pronounced either way... she thinks it's supposed to be only pronounced Meh-hee-cana.
Who's right, me or her?
Depends. If you're going to say it like it's supposed to sound in the native language, then she's right. If you don't care about sounding like a redneck/hick/non-caring American, I suppose Mecks-ih-cana could suffice. Extra bonus negative points if you rhyme the last syllable with 'can' instead of 'father'.
I've always said Seven-Seventeen, Seven-Forty-Seven, Seven-Fifty-Seven, Seven-Sixty-Seven, Seven-Seventy-Seven, Seven-Eighty-Seven.
She's always said Seven-One-Seven, Seven-Four-Seven, Seven-Five-Seven, Seven-Six-Seven, Triple Seven, Seven-Eight-Seven.
Who's right, me or her?
Don't really matter. I think seven-one-seven (because it sounds better) and triple seven (because seven-seventy-seven is a mouthful) are more common, but the others are interchangeable.
I've always pronounced it like Evuh Air, she always says E-V-A Air. I dispute it with evidence that while in Seattle over the PA the gate agent said "This is the final boarding call for Evuh Air flight..." etc. Who's right, me or her?
Aviation Axiom #387: Gate agents know far less than you think. It is E-V-A Air. But I'm loathe to call out someone for referring to an airline by their radio callsign, which is "Eva". So you get a pass (but only if you omit the "air" when saying "eva").
I've always said it like ih-loo-shin, she's always said eel-you-shin. Who's right, me or her?
Neither are entirely correct - it's ih-lyoo-shin. But the point goes to her because getting the "yoo" sound right is more important than getting the "ih" sound right.
Your record: 0-6-2.
Sounds like you need some remedial training - here's some music to help with that: http://youtu.be/ioE_O7Lm0I4
-Mir
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
EASILY the biggest subject of debate since this word is so often used in our conversations... I claim it's pronounced Em-Bree-Air. She says it's pronounced Em-Brair (2 syllables), and that's the way Air Canada pronounces it in their announcements. Saying her version makes me feel like I'm chewing on peanut butter. No way, I say!
I say it like Em-Brair, but that is probably because of my 40+ flights listening to the announcements on the AC Embraers :p.
I've always pronounced it Mecks-ih-Cana. She's always pronounced it Meh-hee-cana. I claim it can be pronounced either way... she thinks it's supposed to be only pronounced Meh-hee-cana.
I typically will say Meh-hee-cana (but have said Mecks-ih-Cana in the past).
I've always pronounced it like Evuh Air, she always says E-V-A Air. I dispute it with evidence that while in Seattle over the PA the gate agent said "This is the final boarding call for Evuh Air flight..." etc. Who's right, me or her?
Gonzalo From Chile, joined Aug 2005, 1677 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3405 times:
Quoting Airport (Thread starter): Man oh MAN I want to be right so bad, I'm so giddy to see the replies which I'm sure will declare how right I am!! Yes this is a bit of a light-hearted topic, don't take anything too seriously, and like I say, we'll BOTH be carefully reading the responses, so I'll say to my girlfriend in advanced: IN YOUR FACE!!!
Mmmmm... sorry Anthony... like Mir says in reply 8, you are toasted....and come on... LAN ?? Are you kidding me ? I can understand some people have problems with Air Koryo, Donbassaero or Domodedovo Airlines.... but LAN ???
Nice topic, you could start another one with the most crazy airline's names
EASILY the biggest subject of debate since this word is so often used in our conversations... I claim it's pronounced Em-Bree-Air. She says it's pronounced Em-Brair (2 syllables), and that's the way Air Canada pronounces it in their announcements. Saying her version makes me feel like I'm chewing on peanut butter. No way, I say!
Who's right, me or her? Please please please please please PLEASE let it be me.
I pronounce it Em-Brah-air
2) Mexicana
I've always pronounced it Mecks-ih-Cana. She's always pronounced it Meh-hee-cana. I claim it can be pronounced either way... she thinks it's supposed to be only pronounced Meh-hee-cana.
Who's right, me or her?
[b/] Mecks-ih-cana. You win that one. [/b]
3) 717, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, 787
I've always said Seven-Seventeen, Seven-Forty-Seven, Seven-Fifty-Seven, Seven-Sixty-Seven, Seven-Seventy-Seven, Seven-Eighty-Seven.
She's always said Seven-One-Seven, Seven-Four-Seven, Seven-Five-Seven, Seven-Six-Seven, Triple Seven, Seven-Eight-Seven.
Who's right, me or her?
Personal choice. I typically say Seven-four. Seven-six. ect. But when it comes to the 777, it's Triple Seven, or trip seven. And the Seven-Seventeen just sounds odd. That is Seven-one-seven.
4) EVA Air
I've always pronounced it like Evuh Air, she always says E-V-A Air. I dispute it with evidence that while in Seattle over the PA the gate agent said "This is the final boarding call for Evuh Air flight..." etc. Who's right, me or her? Eve-a air.
5) Yakovlev
I've always said it Yak-o-lev, thinking the "v" is silent or not generally pronounced... she's always said it Ya-Kov-Lev. Who's right, me or her? Ya-kov-lev
6) LAN
I've always said LAN as in rhymes with "can" or "man", but she's said LAN as in sounds like "lawn." Who's right, me or her? LAN as in can.
7) Dornier
I've always pronounced it like Door-Knee-Air. She's pronounced it like Door-Knee-Eh. Who's right, me or her? Door-knee-err
8) Illyushin
I've always said it like ih-loo-shin, she's always said eel-you-shin. Who's right, me or her? Ill-loo-shin
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We're both going to be pilots in the future, so I guess getting the pronounciations right is of some importance.
Man oh MAN I want to be right so bad, I'm so giddy to see the replies which I'm sure will declare how right I am!! Yes this is a bit of a light-hearted topic, don't take anything too seriously, and like I say, we'll BOTH be carefully reading the responses, so I'll say to my girlfriend in advanced: IN YOUR FACE!!!
Oh by the way, she doesn't know how to spell MD-80.
I bolded my response to your questions above. And the last one is Mad-dog. Not MD-80!
This is actually far closer to what I say, than what he says I say.
(I don't really remember saying seven-four-seven..)
Generally I pronounce the numbers individually from 757 up.
EASILY the biggest subject of debate since this word is so often used in our conversations... I claim it's pronounced Em-Bree-Air. She says it's pronounced Em-Brair (2 syllables), and that's the way Air Canada pronounces it in their announcements. Saying her version makes me feel like I'm chewing on peanut butter. No way, I say!
Who's right, me or her? Please please please please please PLEASE let it be me.
I'm no expert in Portuguese, but I also pronounce it as "Em-Brair".
I've always pronounced it Mecks-ih-Cana. She's always pronounced it Meh-hee-cana. I claim it can be pronounced either way... she thinks it's supposed to be only pronounced Meh-hee-cana.
Now I would have to agree with you here, I have always pronounced it as "eva air". Having flown with them before, I never noticed anyone saying "E-V-A Air" but then again I probably just wasn't paying enough attention. Many here also say that E-V-A Air is correct, but honestly, I've never heard anyone use those three individual letters during normal conversation.
1) She's right
2) You both are right, beside of "Seven-Seventeen", "Seven-Seventy-Seven" (It's more the "Tripple-Seven"), and "Seven-Eighty-Seven", never heard that.
3) You both are right
4) She's right
5) You're right
6) She's right
7) She's right
8) She's right
flyua From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 300 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3132 times:
Love this topic!
I had no idea EVA Air was E-V-A. I pronounced it "A-vuh" -- as in the letter A. Here are two more:
How does one correctly pronounce Amsterdam "Schiphol" Airport? My German training has me thinking, "Ship...". Is it, "Skip..."?
And how about South Korea's Asiana Airlines? Is it like how us Yanks pronounce "Asia" or is it "Ah-she-ah-nah"?
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19719 posts, RR: 56 Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3111 times:
Quoting flyua (Reply 17): How does one correctly pronounce Amsterdam "Schiphol" Airport? My German training has me thinking, "Ship...". Is it, "Skip..."?
ShGGGRRRKKKhip-ol.
-Mir
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 2531 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3058 times:
Quoting flyua (Reply 17): How does one correctly pronounce Amsterdam "Schiphol" Airport? My German training has me thinking, "Ship...". Is it, "Skip..."?
It's both!
It's the German "sh" followed by a "k".
"sshkipol"
And now that we're started: Etihad!!!
If any one figures that one out please feel free to write to Mr Hogan and tell him that you've finally worked out what his airline is called, and kindly suggest that he inform his staff what their company name is!!! Seriously, on one flight I heard it pronounced THREE different ways over the PA system.
"et-ee-hard'
"et-i-had"
"et-ee-ad"
I've been informed that the first in the closest to the Arabic pronunciation.
longhauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4281 posts, RR: 36 Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3005 times:
Reminds me once in Miami, ATC instructed us to follow Air France down a taxiway.
He said ... "Air Canada follow Ayer Frayance"
My (bilingual) F/O responded ... "Roger, we will follow Airfrawnce"
ATC then said ... "I dunno, sounds different the way you say it".
We chuckled all the way to the gate.
Never gonna grow up, never gonna slow down .... Barefoot Blue Jean Night
Quoting Mir (Reply 8): Russian generally doesn't have silent letters.
Eh, excuse me but out of the 33 letters we have in the Russian Cyrillic alphabet 2 are silent ones: ъ & ь.
Quoting flyua (Reply 17): How does one correctly pronounce Amsterdam "Schiphol" Airport? My German training has me thinking, "Ship...". Is it, "Skip..."?
Not true, you should not pronounce any K in Schiphol, where do you guys even see a K? 'Sch' is hard for foreigners to pronounce. Closest substitute for this would be sgggg. Oh, and there is a funny story about the dutch 'sch' and Germans. Right before the WW2 when there were German spies in Holland a question asked to them (if people were in doubt about their nationality) was to pronounced Scheveningen (a city next to the Hague at the North-Sea). Germans are in general not really able to pronounce the city-name correct.
Airport From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 1397 posts, RR: 9 Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2960 times:
I'm not liking this.... I'm not liking this one bit!!!
Quoting HorizonGirl (Reply 10): First off, thank you all so very much for the fantastic replies! I like what I am hearing.
Har har har, enjoy this moment! ENJOY IT!!! For... it's not gonna last! Tomorrow, there'll be a flood of replies, most likely and most hopefully for the sake of my dignity they'll be declaring me the actual champion of this debate and then we'll see who's winning now!!
Quoting HorizonGirl (Reply 10):
Always great to learn more, which is what my man is about to be doing a lot of...
I will never learn!! It's kinda like us Americans and the metric system. Forget logic and abiding by world standards, I'm gunna do it MY way, the Amurican way!! "Evuh Air?" "Yak-o-lev"? "Door-knee-air"? Those aren't just pronounciations, those are the sounds of LIBERTY!
*cue Team America theme song*
Quoting flyua (Reply 17):
How does one correctly pronounce Amsterdam "Schiphol" Airport? My German training has me thinking, "Ship...". Is it, "Skip..."?
And how about South Korea's Asiana Airlines? Is it like how us Yanks pronounce "Asia" or is it "Ah-she-ah-nah"?
If any one figures that one out please feel free to write to Mr Hogan and tell him that you've finally worked out what his airline is called, and kindly suggest that he inform his staff what their company name is!!! Seriously, on one flight I heard it pronounced THREE different ways over the PA system.
Oh! Thank you thank you THANK YOU for bringing those up! Yes I also meant to say in the thread starter that I want to freely let people ask questions about other hard-to-pronounce terms in aviation, just in case I forgot any, and in no way... ahem.. no way at all, *cough* do I mean that to, you know, *sips water* distract from the results of my orignal query. *cough*
For Schiphol I've always said it like Shki-pol. For Etihad I always pronounced it Et-ih-had, with the "-had" syllable sort of rhyming with "rod" or "cod" but with slightly more "a". Asiana I've always pronounced Aye-she-ah-nah.
Hehehe, THANK YOU EVERYONE for your replies! If nothing else, I'm happy we can finally come to a conclusion on this debate, and that if I may be wrong, I can be gracious in defeat. And by gracious in defeat I mean kicking and screaming until I finally get my way!
"No respect!"
Cheers!
Anthony/Airport
25 Gonzalo: Well.... maybe the next time you think to argue with your girl you think twice... But don't worry, you are a young man and still with plenty of time
26 HorizonGirl: Oh! And just so everybody knows, before I set him straight, he used to say "Bom-bar-di-er." Devon
27 Mir: Yeah, I know about those, but they're not completely silent in my book as they do have some effect upon the letters that precede them. Who's winning
28 RubberJungle: Oh dear. Then you probably won't like my gently pointing out the irony of your incorrect spelling - and possibly incorrect pronunciation - of the wor
29 HorizonGirl: Isn't it funny.. we were just talking about this the other day! Devon (edited to add smiley)[Edited 2011-04-12 14:42:25]
30 1stfl94: EVA Air is supposed to be E-V-A, as the name stands for EVergreen Airways (when EVA was founded in 1989, Evergreen corp wanted to name the airline Ev
31 flyua: 1stfl94, Yes, the difference in pronunciation of Boeing and Airbus aircraft is a good question. Yanks seem to say, "Seven thirty-seven," while Brits e
32 pzurita1: The lady is always right, no matter what. Should not question her.
33 AFGMEL: I don't want get all English teacher, but I am afraid that if we are talking pronunciation, then the word is pronunciation.
34 Viscount724: In English, Mecks-ih-cana is perfectly OK. I have even attended IATA meetings conducted in English, attended by delegates from Mexicana, where they a
35 Mir: Indeed. Which is why: should be "It should be 'my significant other and I....'" -Mir
37 YVRLTN: Tie 0-0 - its actually an acronym so theres probably no good way to say it in Portugese. For the record I say Em-bray-uh Her 0-1. Of course in Spanis
38 fuelfool: I think typing a word to determine how it sounds is a little weird.
39 Viscount724: Where do you get the "r" in the syllable "car"? I would say "Mex-uh-ca-na"? (not "car-na"), with the "ca" pronounced like the "ca" in "cat". You woul
40 RyanairGuru: I'm not doubting you, but what are some examples? I can't think of any where that's the case! You've just reminded me of another utterly unrelated wo
41 lh526: LAN being a chilean airline and having lived there some time in the past, having listened to their ads, their CEOs and their onboard anouncements I c
42 pegasus1: In this particular case, yes, but not exclusively. Many people wrongly use the ".....and I" form as a fixed phrase, irrespective of whether it is the
43 Severnaya: while you're pretty close with the 'ch' as in Scottish loch, you should not seperate the 's' from the 'ch', the sound is 'sch'.
44 pegasus1: No, it's not. That's exactly the point that the other poster meant when quoting the example of getting Germans to pronounce 'Scheveningen'. A German
45 Severnaya: I'm a native Dutch and Russian speaker with good knowledge of German. And 'that other poster' was me. Most Germans saying Sch can't reach the 'rude a
46 bj87: Thanks for the smile. Yes they do, it is now called the RUAG 228NG. It's not just the Germans that have that problem. I used to go to High School in
47 bueb0g: Em-Bray-Er Either, depends if you're mexican or not! Generally, in the US, I hear seven - thirty - seven etc, however in the rest of the world it's u
48 KDEN: Here's one that I've always wanted to know how to say: Widerøe My lack of knowledge of the Norwegian language has made me think it's "vid-er-oh", but
49 keagkid101: She's right on this one, but you're right on all the others
50 pegasus1: Severnaya, apologies for not realising that I was quoting your own thread to you. I'll email you directly with the rest of my answer, as I'm sure, wh
51 Viscount724: Ask most Brits (from England) to say "Park my car", and will probably sound like "Pawk my caw", with no R sound in "park" and "car". On the other han
52 Viscount724: Agree. All are very common errors. Two others (slightly more on topic), frequently seen on A.net: "Hangar" (where you put your aircraft) often incorr
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Extra bonus negative points if you rhyme the last syllable with 'can' instead of 'father'.
Thank you! I personally believe it's far more correct to pronounce it the way it's supposed to be!
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Not true, you should not pronounce any K in Schiphol, where do you guys even see a K? 'Sch' is hard for foreigners to pronounce. Closest substitute for this would be sgggg. Oh, and there is a funny story about the dutch 'sch' and Germans. Right before the WW2 when there were German spies in Holland a question asked to them (if people were in doubt about their nationality) was to pronounced Scheveningen (a city next to the Hague at the North-Sea). Germans are in general not really able to pronounce the city-name correct.
I'm not liking this.... I'm not liking this one bit!!! 
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