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User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5047 posts, RR: 15
Posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 881 times:

Has anyone heard of or flew on an airline called Canada 3000? I saw their plane at FLL (an A320) but never heard of them and wonder if they are just a charter. Its a white plane with simple red lettering.


Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
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User currently offlineSp-deluxe From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 760 times:

Yep there a charter airline, they also operate B757-200 A330-200 and A320's as you mentioned. They serve charter destinations on a regular basis to Europe, Australia/Pacific, US and Mexico amongst over destinations. They have a website which you can find of Yahoo.

I think they were started by Air 2000 the giant british charter operater hence the 3000 in the name.


User currently offlineBuff From Australia, joined Mar 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 758 times:

We are 100% owned by Canadian investors, and are a private company, flying routes as described by Sp-deluxe.

We flew our first flight in early 1988, and have grown to be Canada's third "airline", although by designation we are a charter carrier.

Our 757 and 320 seating is a little tight, but so are our prices. Taking into account our reservation system and in-flight service, the small price to pay is a small price to pay! Our 330's are as roomy as any world class economy carrier - 2 + 4 + 2 seating - never more than one seat from an aisle.

Hope this "advertisement" isn't offensive...

Best Regards,

Buff


User currently offlineAirtime From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 86 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 748 times:

acctually AIR TRANSAT is Canada's nuber three airline. Canada 3000 keeps trying but doesn't have the flee for it, 15 aircraft for c3 and 22 for Air Transat. Canada 3000 is a good airline thaugh.

User currently offlineAirman99o From Canada, joined Aug 1999, 975 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 738 times:

just a quick note to say have any of you seen a air 2000 in old colours? it is exactly the same as Canada 3000. What is on the go with theis? I wish that Canada 3000 would change the colours to smoething more appealing. Sure the gold looks rich but is now outta style.

Airman99o



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User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5047 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 736 times:

Thanks! I got a nice pic of their jet C-GVXF about to depart FLL. I'll post in the next couple weeks.


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User currently offlineJet Setter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 731 times:

Canada 3000's colours are almost identical to Air 2000's old livery for one simple reason.
When the airline was started it used aircraft subleased from the British parent airline
(It was British owned at the time but there were objections to foreign ownership and so Air 2000 sold it's stake)
Every winter until last year Air 2000 leased aircraft and crews to Canada 3000 and the identical liveries meant passengers would never notice they were on a leased aircraft and little money had to be spent on repainting.

This advantage was lost when Air 2000 introduced their much improved new livery in November 1996. (Designed By Landor Associates - See Varig/Singapore/United/Thai etc)

Anyway Canada 3000 lost the Signature Vacations contract to Royal Airlines. Signature is the Canadian Divison of the group that includes Air 2000, so now leased 757s go to Royal instead and all links between the former parent and subsidiary are severed.


User currently offlineBuff From Australia, joined Mar 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 732 times:

For Airtime: Not to be too partisan, but with reference to the number of aircraft hours flown, C-3000 does in fact rank third! The other company's airplanes may be more numerous, but they don't use them nearly as much as we do. We also run our charter airline on a scheduled basis, with a state-of-the-art reservations system. That alone allows C-3000 the rank of third largest.

On the subject of wetleased Jetset aircraft (Jetset is the R/T call sign for Air 2000), this has not occurred since at least 1996. In fact, just the opposite has been in place dating back to the early 90's - C-3000 leased an airplane and flight crews to Air 2000 up until 1998.

And Signature did not abandon us - we did not require their services anymore as C-3000 Holidays, our reservation system, was being launched. That left Signature open for a takeover bid, which is what Royal Airlines in fact did.

In my opinion, of course - and it is biased!

Best Regards,

Buff


User currently offlineAirtime From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 86 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 720 times:

Hi Buff! Well i checked the actual number of passengers transported each year by Air Transat, canada 3000 and Royal. The results are:

in 1997, the last official numbers:

-Air Transat: 1 597 956 or 45,3 % of the holiday travellers

-Canada 3000: 914 049 or 26.0% of the holiday travellers

-Royal: 666 607 or 18.9% of the holiday travellers

-Skyservice 279 054 or 7,9 % oh the holiday travellers

-others: 65 900 or 1.9 %

the numbers I have for 1998 are 2,5 millions for Air transat.

Sorry but the facts are there




User currently offlineTygue From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 723 times:

I'd like to know where you obtained those numbers, Airtime, because they are not at all accurate.

Canada 3000 has grasped a large percentage of the charter market with their A330-200 (i know AT has the same type, but it has not boosted Transat's passanger flow nearly as much as it has for C3) as well as their newly opened C3Holidays, as Buff stated. Canada 3000 has done a much better marketing job in the last year or so and it has payed off.

I cannot remember where I had read this report, but if I come across it i'll make sure to post it. C3, although previously in a tight race with AT, does have the number 3 spot in canada.

With rumours of Royal Aviation going bankrupt, who knows what the future holds. It'll be an interesting ride, I can assure you, with Air Canada's recent plans with Canadian affecting the Canadian Transportation industry as well.

Until that time, however, i'll enjoy very fair airfare's with great service on Canada 3000, one of my favourite airlines, by far. Well, except for the paintscheme  

IMHO

Tygue


User currently offlineAirtime From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 86 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (14 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 711 times:

well, i took my numbers in the share holders report from last year. I know that Canada 3000 has increased its fleet with A330, but as mention earlier, they do not get the air 2000 B757 anymore during the winter, so, in fact C3 has not incresed its capacity that much. About Canada 3000 Holidays, they only thing it did is to split up the market, because signature is still alive. A new tour operator does not mean a bunch of new people automatically. But if you still want a think that C3 is number 3, well that is good for you, but in reallity you are wrong!


Anyway good luck and i hope that one day c3's employee will be treated like they should. the fact that the company make them (flight attendants i don't know about the others) sign 6 months contract and that they can get rid of them at anytime may be good company wise but not employee wise. The days that this will be understood by Canada 3000 management, c3 will deserve the name of Big airline

bye
airtime


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