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User currently offlineRmvB4Flight From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 8 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5055 times:

I was thinking about this today. On the new United will there be channel 9? If there is, will it be confined to the original UA fleet or will it expand to the original CO fleet as well? UA is my hometown airline and I prefer them over anyone else, so I hope they keep it and expand it over the whole fleet!

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User currently offlinewinglets747 From Australia, joined Mar 2007, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5019 times:
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Back in December Smisek said no, for now:

Quote:
When asked if United would extend channel 9 to Continental's aircraft, Smisek had this to say:

I know a lot of our United customers enjoy it. We've looked at that and that's a very expensive addition to our fleet, so I don't think we're going to be doing that anytime soon.
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...nited-unsure-if-it-will-offer.html



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User currently offlineRmvB4Flight From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

That is rather unfortunate  

User currently offlineBCEaglesCO757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 242 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4089 times:

I've never used the service,but it seems to get great reviews here.

Anybody at United know what exactly makes it so expensive to operate ? Basically you're just able to listen in on ATC/cockpit comm as well and thats it right ?

Looking at it in that way,it seems simple. Maybe somebody could explain what Jeff means by expensive.

If having the service will draw in mnore customers,then perhaps it will help pay for itself. Does this cause UA to lose money or is it an money loser ?


User currently offlineKFitz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

I believe he mean't it is not incompatible with the LiveTV system installed on the CO domestic fleet.

[Edited 2011-04-15 21:11:57]

User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3962 times:

Channel 9, I've noticed, since being a FF of UA since 1999 or so, has been drifting away and used less it seems. My last 3 international trips have totally skipped over it, though they still advertise it in their magazine and even their new (UA) IFE. Was on an international newly configured 777 last week from LHR-IAD, and it was channel 9 on the touchscreen with an explanation of it. So any new configured (UA Interior) 767/777 aircraft should have it since it's explained. It was actually on a LHR for a brief period, but was turned off before we left the gate. So maybe some planes will have it, some will not.

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User currently offlineKFitz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

it's at the crews discretion. I usually ask on the ground, and the crew "remembers" to turn it on. never hurts to ask!

User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2887 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3622 times:
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Gosh I love it AND you know who loves it MOST? Passengers with a fear of flying. To listen to the pilot calm and even light hearted through rough turbulence is extremely comforting. I know 2 people who have a crippling fear of flying specifically choose UNITED for that feature alone!

I just went to GVA from IAD on a 767, and it was on!



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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3478 times:

Figure it will be on more after the pilots settle...seems to always 'disappear' during negotiations along with wearing their hats.  

Remember that ecy+ and 3 class was not going to stay either....now ecy+ goes to the fleet and 3 class birds being taken to former CO hubs starting this summer.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2887 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3004 times:
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Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 8):

Are UNITED putting 3 classes on ex-CO 767's or even a 777?



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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2875 times:

Quoting VC10er (Reply 9):
Are UNITED putting 3 classes on ex-CO 767's or even a 777?

Not yet....mebbe never. But they are not taking them off the existing and instead are moving a few to ex CO hubs. Officially 'still under discussion' which I think translates to lets see the money it makes on ex 2 class routes..


User currently offline413X3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1983 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

When I fly I always request it on boarding, once I was told at the end of the flight the pilot usually doesn't like turning it on because everyone has phones that upload video and audio to youtube and can take things out of context, so he was weary of keeping it on. But I really enjoy it, and I hope they keep it.

User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2496 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 5):
Was on an international newly configured 777 last week from LHR-IAD, and it was channel 9 on the touchscreen with an explanation of it. So any new configured (UA Interior) 767/777 aircraft should have it since it's explained. It was actually on a LHR for a brief period, but was turned off before we left the gate. So maybe some planes will have it, some will not.

It's typically turned off once overwater on transoceanic flights because at best, you'd be subjected to EMI-affected HF communications which are pretty difficult to hear and even more difficult to understand unless you have a map and can plot latitude/longitude waypoints, etc.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 7):
Gosh I love it AND you know who loves it MOST? Passengers with a fear of flying. To listen to the pilot calm and even light hearted through rough turbulence is extremely comforting. I know 2 people who have a crippling fear of flying specifically choose UNITED for that feature alone!

Agree, and in reference to the overwater HF communications (above), I noted that once of the few times I was able to make out a protracted conversation (on the transoceanic frequencies) was during a LAX-HNL flight during which we had to transit an ugly group of thunderstorm cells with tops pushing 42,000 feet, and reports of severe turbulence. The communication between our crew, a HA crew, an Omni flight, a DL bird, and another UA crew a few minutes ahead of us was reassuring.

I regularly listen to channel nine also hope they decide to keep it. While I understand why some crews are reluctant to have it on, I think they overlook the fact that it highlights their professionalism more than anything else.

777fan



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User currently offlinecschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

Quoting 413X3 (Reply 11):
once I was told at the end of the flight the pilot usually doesn't like turning it on because everyone has phones that upload video and audio to youtube and can take things out of context, so he was weary of keeping it on.

I hadn't thought of that but, of course, ATC is available online, too, so anyone can record any flight.


User currently offlinedartland From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 643 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2031 times:
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Channel 9 has been on about 80% of my UA segments in 2011 (~12 of 15 or so), all on 752s (p.s. or regular).

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