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User currently offlinetonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1017 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6731 times:

Hi A.net friends,

Does anyone know what percentage of MD80s and 737s already have wifi installed? Why is it taking them so long to install across fleet? DL has it installed across the entire fleet, should not be so hard to install. Also heard rumors that the 757s don't have Gogo because they will get Row 44?

Regarding the 757s cabin upgrade, any progress? I have noticed that most routes where I would fly the 757s are now 737s, I wonder if they are in service for cabin upgrades. I did get lucky one time to get the only domestic 757 with cabin upgrade. It is really nice.

Also heard one time here that they were thinking of real lie flat seats for the 763. Any updates here?

Thanks,
Tony

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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11463 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6684 times:

Quoting tonytifao (Thread starter):
Does anyone know what percentage of MD80s and 737s already have wifi installed? Why is it taking them so long to install across fleet?

AA likes to slow-roll everything. Essentially, they don't want to spend one dime more than they absolutely have to, so they are doing these cabin interior refurbishments very slowly, as planes come in for periodic maintenance, and thus it is taking forever.

Quoting tonytifao (Thread starter):
Also heard rumors that the 757s don't have Gogo because they will get Row 44?

AA has stated publicly that they ultimately want wifi on every single airplane, and that they are actively examining other forms of wifi technology (i.e., satellite-based) that would work over water, where many of the 757s, 767s and 777s fly.

Thus, again, since they do not want to spend anything more than they have to, they are waiting for that satellite technology to mature before they install anything on the bigger jets.

Quoting tonytifao (Thread starter):
Regarding the 757s cabin upgrade, any progress?
Very slowly.

For months and months, there were only two 757s flying around with the updated domestic configuration (which includes new First and Coach seats, 2 extra seats in First, a modified mid-cabin lav, new colors, flat-panel LCD screens replacing CRTs, upgraded electronic control station for the FAs, etc.)

At the moment, there are 8 of the 'new' 757s flying around.

Quoting tonytifao (Thread starter):
I have noticed that most routes where I would fly the 757s are now 737s, I wonder if they are in service for cabin upgrades. I did get lucky one time to get the only domestic 757 with cabin upgrade. It is really nice.

Consider yourself lucky that you've been getting 737s over 757s. The new 737 interiors are excellent - as I've said, probably some of the most comfortable of any narrowbody I've ever been on in Coach.. The 757s still need lots of work.


User currently offlinetonytifao From Brazil, joined Mar 2005, 1017 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6661 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 1):
t the moment, there are 8 of the 'new' 757s flying around.

Thanks commavia. Do you know where these 8 are flying? Random or specific routes?


User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11463 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6655 times:

Quoting tonytifao (Reply 2):
Do you know where these 8 are flying? Random or specific routes?

When it comes to the more 'versatile' fleets - i.e., the 757s, 737s and MD80s - AA doesn't generally assign specific aircraft to specific missions. Planes generally rotate throughout the system without much regard for their specific interior and/or technical configuration, with a few exceptions in markets where a particular peculiarity of that airport or market requires a specific configuration.

As such, with the 757s, AA generally sends the planes all over, and doesn't differentiate - from an operational standpoint - between the 'new' and 'old' ones. Even with the small, 18-aircraft sub-fleet of 757s that have Business Class seats up front, AA still doesn't differentiate in many cases, as those planes often times show up in places where you would not normally expect to see a premium-configured, 'international' airplane.


User currently offlineaajfksjubklyn From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 901 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6420 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 1):
At the moment, there are 8 of the 'new' 757s flying around.

They serioulsy can not come fast enough. They must be flying in and out of DFW or MIA as I have yet to see one at JFK and I have been on nothing but delapidated 757's it seems since January 1. On one of my more recent flights from EGE to JFK a ceiling panel came loose and was dangling after take-off. I guess those full engine take off's at EGE put the panel to the test so to say. Its really a sad state of affairs flying on an 757 w/ AA domestically. I pray for an International Config.


User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 731 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6361 times:

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 4):
They must be flying in and out of DFW or MIA

As commavia wrote, they are all over the system with no particular "base." Yes they are flying out of DFW and MIA...and JFK, SJU, SFO, BOS, ORD, MCO, LAS, AUA, LGA etc etc...  


User currently offlineaajfksjubklyn From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 901 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6274 times:

Cant wait to be on one. The ones that have not been upgraded actually look better in coach than first/business.

User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6245 times:

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 4):
They serioulsy can not come fast enough. They must be flying in and out of DFW or MIA as I have yet to see one at JFK and I have been on nothing but delapidated 757's it seems since January 1. On one of my more recent flights from EGE to JFK a ceiling panel came loose and was dangling after take-off. I guess those full engine take off's at EGE put the panel to the test so to say. Its really a sad state of affairs flying on an 757 w/ AA domestically. I pray for an International Config.

Sadly AA has the worst 757s for interiors of all US carriers, except for maybe US. And the redux isn't all that impressive either. The first class seats are a joke.



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User currently offlineMainliner From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6207 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 7):
Sadly AA has the worst 757s for interiors of all US carriers, except for maybe US.

US has updated interiors on the 757s, not sure what you mean.



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11463 posts, RR: 61
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 6196 times:

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 6):
The ones that have not been upgraded actually look better in coach than first/business.

  

Definitely agreed. At least the 757s have new seat covers in Y (although still covering the old seats). Those hard, uncomfortable brown "leather" (and I use that in quotes) F seats are horrific.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 7):
Sadly AA has the worst 757s for interiors of all US carriers, except for maybe US.

Can't compare all that much, but yeah, AA needs to update the 757 interiors - yesterday.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 7):
And the redux isn't all that impressive either. The first class seats are a joke.

I personally have a different perception. Having sat in the old F and Y seats on 757s countless times, and having sat several times in the new Y seats and once in the new F seats, I actually the new cabins are fairly nice. The new seats - if I'm not mistaken, the same ones on the 737s - are quite comfortable, in my experience.


User currently offlinemoman From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1054 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5931 times:

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 4):
They serioulsy can not come fast enough. They must be flying in and out of DFW or MIA as I have yet to see one at JFK and I have been on nothing but delapidated 757's it seems since January 1.

The good news is that the MD-80 fleet has pretty nice, consistent interiors. I was on one of the real old 757s the other day, with the light blue forward paneling.



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4923 times:

I rode AA mainline for the first time in about 7 years 2 weeks ago. The coach seats were AA's beloved pattern but F was awful. I felt like I stepped back in the mid-late 80's to early 90s. The sidewalls were "browning" (is that the natural color) and most of the PSU lights had darkened their cases so bad, you could hardly see anything at all.

I'd hope AA turns-two on their 757s soonest.



What gets measured gets done.
User currently offlineAAairplane From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4637 times:

Quoting Mainliner (Reply 8):
US has updated interiors on the 757s, not sure what you mean.

I flew on a US Airways 757 from Phoenix to Maui and it had a very dated interior with cloth seats and CRT monitors. I believe that some of the 757s have updated interiors though.

AA



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User currently offlineMileHighOffice From Australia, joined Jun 2010, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4074 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 1):
The new 737 interiors are excellent

What have they done to them? Have not been on an AA 738 in ages.


User currently offlinegenybustrvlr From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3342 times:

Quoting MileHighOffice (Reply 13):
What have they done to them? Have not been on an AA 738 in ages.

Made them comparable to coach on a decent airline - not a nice airline, though. Still no AVOD.


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