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NW Operating 747 On MCO-DTW/MCO-MSP In 1996?  
User currently offlineKGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 721 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2570 times:

My mom swears that she flew on a 747 (she doesn't know which series) on NW in December 1996, either on the MSP-MCO route or MCO-DTW. I am a little skeptical, even though NW did a lot of domestic widebody flying in the 90s (mostly DC-10-40). Can anybody with access to a 1996 NW timetable (or a good memory) confirm? Thanks.


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7768 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

I'm almost certain the answer was no. Those routes did see a lot of DC-10-40 service though.

NW was not running scheduled domestic 747 (200 or 400) service in the mid-90s, other than the occasional operational sub.


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2520 times:

Quoting KGRB (Thread starter):


My mom swears that she flew on a 747 (she doesn't know which series) on NW in December 1996, either on the MSP-MCO route or MCO-DTW. I am a little skeptical, even though NW did a lot of domestic widebody flying in the 90s (mostly DC-10-40). Can anybody with access to a 1996 NW timetable (or a good memory) confirm? Thanks.

In 1994, I believe, NW did operate 747s between MSP and DTW. However, I don't recall 747s ever being scheduled on MSP-MCO or MCO-DTW. It was likely a DC-10.

Jeremy


User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 2021 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

I looked on BTS.gov for the entire month of December, 1996, and I didn't see any 747s from MCO to MSP/DTW. The only scheduled widebody was a single DC-10 to DTW, and I didn't see an substitutions. Most days it was a DC-10-40, but a couple were on a DC-10-30. I imagine they were new to the NW fleet at the time.

User currently offlineMNMncrcnwjr From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

there was a scheduled MSP to SEA 744 flight during the 90's, when traveling to YVR from MKE would occasionally be a DC10 MKE-MSP then 744 MSP - SEA with a Horizon Prop into YVR (Before the direct MSP - YVR was started) So there were some 744 domestic runs scheduled ...


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7768 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

Yes, there were a few scheduled domestic 744s in the early 90's including:
DTW-MSP
MSP-PHX
MSP-SEA

However by the late 90's scheduled domestic 742/744 service was done.
However they were a common operational sub, and still can be even today.


User currently offlineflflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

Well, it was not in the 90s, but I flew from MSP-MCO on a 747 200 in the mid 80s and also from MSP-DTW during the same time period.

User currently offlineKGRB From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 721 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

I'm blown away by the quick response, guys. Thank you!! It's fun to reminisce about the days of widespread domestic widebody flying. I'm feeling nostalgic for my first flight, on a NW DC-10, from MKE to MSP, also in 1996.

Upon further review, I'm going to say it was a DC-10. A lot of folks assume every widebody is a 747 (especially before the prevalence of 777s, A380s, etc. like today).

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 3):
I looked on BTS.gov for the entire month of December, 1996, and I didn't see any 747s from MCO to MSP/DTW.

Just as an aside, how do did you look that up? There's a few more aircraft routings that I'd like to check out.

[Edited 2011-04-15 11:24:43]


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7768 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

User currently offlineisitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 1):
NW was not running scheduled domestic 747 (200 or 400) service in the mid-90s, other than the occasional operational

Yeah.....they did around spring break time to MCO from DTW.. I have the scheds at home to show it. They were primarily on weekends ONLY. When we had the Travel Agency, we booked a few folks on it.......a 400 if I rermember right.
safe
PS...let me correct myself. It was NOT in the published sched, but in SABRE around booking time. When you got to the airport and to the gate, it was SURPRISE, look what you get to ride on type of deal.
Like I posted, for a couple of weekends only around spring break and I think they did it for two years. The 747 substituted for the DC 10. They were daylight flights southbound and northbound return to DTW.
safe

[Edited 2011-04-15 12:24:42]


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User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2202 times:

I know that there were a number of domestic 74-4 ops in the early on to satisfy FAA proving run requirements. MSP-PHX/SEA were two of the proving run markets when the type was new (late 89/early 90).

User currently offlinedoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3442 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Quoting KGRB (Reply 7):
A lot of folks assume every widebody is a 747

A lot of folks assume every Boeing is a 747. My friends have flown Southwest 747s, smaller 747s with only one aisle, 747s with no upper deck, and two or three engined 747s.



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User currently offlineSkyPriorityDTW From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 187 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

Orlando, Orlando, Orlando. Can you fill a 747 to MCO... for sure! 100% no doubt. That would have been awesome if it actually happened. A few weeks back, they upgraded one DTW-MCO to a A330-200 which was a nice sub for an old, tired 757. It went out as full as possible, and the passengers were pleased to say the least. This is why a product like the 787 or A350 with a reduced range (maybe to save on fuel consumption? I'm no engineer, don't quote me) would be so great for airlines with high capacity routes like such. DTW-MCO is always full... with six segments operated every day. They are all operated on 757's that passengers hate, often have maintenance problems, and take forever and a day to board. If only a product like such came true one day... if only  


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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 1):
NW was not running scheduled domestic 747 (200 or 400) service in the mid-90s, other than the occasional operational sub.
Quoting SkyPriorityDTW (Reply 12):
Orlando, Orlando, Orlando. Can you fill a 747 to MCO... for sure! 100% no doubt. That would have been awesome if it actually happened. A few weeks back, they upgraded one DTW-MCO to a A330-200 which was a nice sub for an old, tired 757

Every once in a while Delta brings in a 747-400 down here at MCO from DTW, I've seen it a couple times as equipment subs this past year or so.

The A330-200/300 has been kinda frequent on the MCO-DTW and MSP-MCO route. I was hoping for it the other day out of DTW to MCO, but I got stuck on the cattle car 757-300 N588NW


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