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UA Summer 2011 Hub/Focus City Departure Breakdown  
User currently offlineFSDan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 755 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9735 times:

Here is a list of departures from UA stations with 50+ departures this summer. The date I used was June 30, 2011 (a Thursday). This is the same date that was used to collect the data for the similar threads regarding DL's and AA's summer schedules, so that comparisons can be made. Because the schedules for UA and CO have not yet been fully combined (most flights, but not all, appear in the UA e-timetable), data was gathered from both the UA electronic timetable and from continental.com. Even though I expect there to be small tweaks to the schedule between now and June, the following should be a decent representation of how UA's summer schedule will look at their busiest stations.

Note: I used the aircraft codes from the UA timetable. For those not familiar with the timetable, 320 and 32S are both used for A320-200 (not sure exactly what the difference is), and 767 and 764 are both used for 767-400 (767 = domestic/hawaii and 764 = international). Also for those not familiar, 73G = 737-700. I believe the rest of the codes are fairly intuitive. Also note that I did not use a separate code for p.s. 757s, so the 752 totals for LAX and SFO include those flights.

Enjoy!!

IAH

SF3: 51
DH4: 27
ERJ: 264
CRJ: 15
CR7: 37
E70: 3
319: 3
32S: 2 (Total 320 = 2)
735: 40
73G: 40
738: 104
739: 52
752: 6
753: 24
762: 4
763: 2
764: 4
767: 2
777: 4 Total = 684

ORD

DH4: 4
ERJ: 197
CRJ: 83
CR7: 97
E70: 50
319: 53
320: 41
32S: 42 (Total 320 = 83)
735: 5
738: 16
752: 44
753: 3
763: 10
777: 9
744: 4 Total = 658

DEN

EM2: 5
ERJ: 62
CRJ: 124
CR7: 79
E70: 20
319: 37
320: 29
32S: 29 (Total 320 = 58)
735: 2
738: 7
739: 4
752: 45
753: 3
763: 4
777: 4 Total = 454

EWR

DH2: 30
DH4: 38
ERJ: 132
E70: 21
319: 5
320: 4
32S: 2 (Total 320 = 6)
735: 20
73G: 14
738: 63
739: 25
752: 46
753: 9
762: 4
763: 1
764: 7
767: 1
777: 12 Total = 434

IAD

SF3: 33
DH4: 21
ERJ: 68
CRJ: 28
CR7: 42
E70: 11
319: 20
320: 6
32S: 22 (Total 320 = 28)
735: 2
752: 25
763: 13
777: 14 Total = 305

SFO

EM2: 68
CRJ: 44
CR7: 29
319: 16
320: 16
32S: 29 (Total 320 = 45)
738: 10
739: 7
752: 45
753: 2
763: 10
777: 10
744: 7 Total = 293

LAX

EM2: 59
CRJ: 28
CR7: 33
319: 13
320: 11
32S: 13 (Total 320 = 24)
738: 14
739: 3
752: 39
753: 10
763: 6
777: 5
744: 1 Total = 235

CLE

BEH: 11
DH2: 42
DH4: 11
ERJ: 103
CRJ: 3
CR7: 1
319: 1
735: 5
73G: 6
738: 15
739: 5
752: 1
753: 3 Total = 207

SEA

EM2: 9
CRJ: 1
CR7: 4
320: 2
32S: 7 (Total 320 = 9)
738: 10
739: 7
752: 12
777: 1 Total = 53

BOS

ERJ: 4
E70: 4
319: 3
320: 3
32S: 5 (Total 320 = 8)
735: 4
73G: 1
738: 12
739: 1
752: 14 Total = 51

LAS

EM2: 6
CRJ: 2
CR7: 2
319: 4
320: 5
32S: 7 (Total 320 = 12)
738: 7
739: 6
752: 4
753: 7 Total = 50

I believe those are all the UA stations with at least 50 departures this summer. If you determine that I have missed one, please let me know and I will add it.


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User currently onlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20636 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9616 times:

Quoting FSDan (Thread starter):
320 and 32S are both used for A320-200 (not sure exactly what the difference is)

Aren't the 32S planes the ex-TED models? (RAR!!)



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User currently offlineKngkyle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 404 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 9582 times:
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Broken down some more:

IAH
Regional: 397 (58.0%)
Mainline: 271 (39.6%)
Widebody: 16 (2.3%)
Total: 684

ORD
Regional: 431 (65.5%)
Mainline: 204 (31.0%)
Widebody: 23 (3.5%)
Total: 658

DEN
Regional: 290 (63.9%)
Mainline: 156 (34.4%)
Widebody: 8 (1.8%)
Total: 454

EWR
Regional: 221 (50.9%)
Mainline: 188 (43.3%)
Widebody: 25 (5.8%)
Total: 434

IAD
Regional: 203 (66.6%)
Mainline: 75 (24.6%)
Widebody: 27 (8.9%)
Total: 305

SFO
Regional: 141 (48.1%)
Mainline: 125 (42.7%)
Widebody: 27 (9.2%)
Total: 293

LAX
Regional: 120 (51.1%)
Mainline: 103 (43.8%)
Widebody: 12 (5.1%)
Total: 235

CLE
Regional: 171 (72.8%)
Mainline: 36 (15.3%)
Widebody: 0 (0.0%)
Total: 207


User currently offlineUA772IAD From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 1730 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 9406 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 1):
Aren't the 32S planes the ex-TED models? (RAR!!)

Yes, but UA also likes to append "32S" to routes that could be operated by a 319 or a 320, with last minute changes possible... at least that is my experience. UA internally uses nose numbers to differentiate ex-Ted, standard configuration, and A320-232s equipped with life rafts, utilized on flights to Mexico and the Caribbean.


User currently offlineCoairman From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 9396 times:

Interesting stats....thanks for the info. I find it is interesting that CLE has the highest percentage of regional traffic for all the hubs.


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User currently offlineindiansbucs From Costa Rica, joined May 2007, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 9255 times:

Quoting Coairman (Reply 4):
Interesting stats....thanks for the info. I find it is interesting that CLE has the highest percentage of regional traffic for all the hubs.

Like MEM and CVG for DL... CLE is the top candidate for dehubbing... maybe in a couple of years...


User currently offlineHeeseokKoo From South Korea, joined Jan 2005, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9168 times:

Quoting Kngkyle (Reply 2):
CLE
Regional: 171 (72.8%)
Mainline: 36 (15.3%)
Widebody: 0 (0.0%)
Total: 207

Nice analysis, but something's wrong here.  


User currently offlineKngkyle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 404 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 8966 times:
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Quoting HeeseokKoo (Reply 6):

My bad. Fixed:

CLE
Regional: 171 (82.6%)
Mainline: 36 (17.4%)
Widebody: 0 (0.0%)
Total: 207


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3483 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8779 times:

Quoting Kngkyle (Reply 2):
Broken down some more:

IAH
Regional: 397 (58.0%)
Mainline: 271 (39.6%)
Widebody: 16 (2.3%)
Total: 684

ORD
Regional: 431 (65.5%)
Mainline: 204 (31.0%)
Widebody: 23 (3.5%)
Total: 658

DEN
Regional: 290 (63.9%)
Mainline: 156 (34.4%)
Widebody: 8 (1.8%)
Total: 454

EWR
Regional: 221 (50.9%)
Mainline: 188 (43.3%)
Widebody: 25 (5.8%)
Total: 434

IAD
Regional: 203 (66.6%)
Mainline: 75 (24.6%)
Widebody: 27 (8.9%)
Total: 305

SFO
Regional: 141 (48.1%)
Mainline: 125 (42.7%)
Widebody: 27 (9.2%)
Total: 293

LAX
Regional: 120 (51.1%)
Mainline: 103 (43.8%)
Widebody: 12 (5.1%)
Total: 235

CLE
Regional: 171 (72.8%)
Mainline: 36 (15.3%)
Widebody: 0 (0.0%)
Total: 207

These numbers don't add up. With ORD, for example, I'm counting 227 mainline for what's been posted; 287 for IAH. I count different figures for each hub compared to what you've broken down.

Jeremy


User currently offlineAlasizon From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8761 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 8):
These numbers don't add up. With ORD, for example, I'm counting 227 mainline for what's been posted; 287 for IAH. I count different figures for each hub compared to what you've broken down.

The other figures are broken down into narrowbody and widebody. If you add up both the narrowbody and widebodies, you'll get your figures.



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3483 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8750 times:

Quoting Alasizon (Reply 9):

The other figures are broken down into narrowbody and widebody. If you add up both the narrowbody and widebodies, you'll get your figures.

   Whoops, I feel dumb. Thanks.

Jeremy


User currently offlineFL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1541 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8625 times:

Pretty sure UA's ORD hub takes the crown for most regional airline flights. Even more than ATL and DTW if I'm not mistaken. 431 flights is definitely a lot.


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User currently offlinea340crew From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 277 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 8178 times:

UA also has the A332 out of IAD - MAD (operated by EI ) its an EI aircraft, but united flight similar to how they out source the regional carriers so I would include this on the IAD list

User currently offlineual777uk From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 8145 times:

Quoting a340crew (Reply 12):
UA also has the A332 out of IAD - MAD (operated by EI ) its an EI aircraft, but united flight similar to how they out source the regional carriers so I would include this on the IAD list

Of all the changes made todate I am surprised nothing has been done about this flight, I am sure it will go the way of the dodo soon and go to UA metal.


User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8077 times:

Interesting numbers. Does anybody have similar numbers for the big European carriers like BA, AF and LH? Would be interesting to see their stats for London, Paris and Frankfurt.

User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7015 times:

Quoting FSDan (Thread starter):

I find it crazy that UA will officially be bigger in BOS than AA.

Also people say that EWR is UA's third biggest hub in the system -- seems as if DEN is still bigger by 20 flights...



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11617 posts, RR: 61
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6945 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 15):
I find it crazy that UA will officially be bigger in BOS than AA.

Seeing as United is substantially larger than AA, and that Boston is one of the nation's largest markets, it's sort of to be expected.


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6881 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 16):
Seeing as United is substantially larger than AA, and that Boston is one of the nation's largest markets, it's sort of to be expected.

Not really. BOS is rather small for metro areas in the US, and AA has always had a substantially larger presence at Logan than United, regardless of size...



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User currently offlineChopChop767 From Italy, joined Aug 2010, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6801 times:

Very interesting. The mainline versus regional statistics are interesting; although when you look at Terminal 2 at ORD, it certainly makes sense. What a zoo! Also, would be interesting to see the hubs broken down by number of seats available. I would think that SFO and LAX would move up in the rankings. Furthermore, I'm surprised to see that DEN beats out EWR in the actual amount of airplanes serving the hub. EWR often time looks like a parking lot for 777s.

Great information! Thanks for posting.



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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6705 times:

Quoting FSDan (Thread starter):
752: 1

Where does this 757 fly from into CLE? Is that UA or CO metal?

Also interesting to note, there is only one more 757 flown into EWR than DEN, but a HUGE amount of 757 flying out of EWR is international, whereas DEN is all domestic. Interesting...



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User currently offlineFSDan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 755 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6055 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 15):
Also people say that EWR is UA's third biggest hub in the system -- seems as if DEN is still bigger by 20 flights...

Although if you look at hub capacity, I bet EWR is third. Average aircraft size at EWR is definitely larger than at DEN. It just depends on the metric you use...

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 17):
BOS is rather small for metro areas in the US

It's the 10th biggest metro area (just ahead of Detroit, Phoenix, and San Francisco). Not exactly small...

However, I agree that it will be strange seeing UA with more presence there than AA. AA's cornerstone strategy has definitely taken a toll on BOS.

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 19):
Where does this 757 fly from into CLE? Is that UA or CO metal?

It's UA metal, and it flies DEN-CLE-ORD.



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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5919 times:

Quoting FSDan (Reply 20):

It's UA metal, and it flies DEN-CLE-ORD.

Cool! Thanks for the info. It's been a very long time since DEN-CLE was served by a 757 on UA.

Quoting FSDan (Reply 20):
However, I agree that it will be strange seeing UA with more presence there than AA. AA's cornerstone strategy has definitely taken a toll on BOS.

IIRC, AA has 48 flights a day out of BOS for this summer. UA has 51. Again, I never thought I would live to see this.



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User currently offlineNYCFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4887 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 15):
Also people say that EWR is UA's third biggest hub in the system -- seems as if DEN is still bigger by 20 flights...

Wow, I am amazed that EWR is less than DEN. I'm actually surprised at how much smaller EWR is than IAH and ORD (I knew it was smaller, but not by ~200 flights or so!)

I would guess this has to do with the fact that EWR has a stronger o/d market, and is less of a domestic connecting hub?


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4817 times:

Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 22):

I would guess this has to do with the fact that EWR has a stronger o/d market, and is less of a domestic connecting hub?

I think the issue is EWR is so space constricted, it can never be the size of major connecting hub eg: ORD, DEN, or IAH.

It kind of puts things into perspective: Many users say DEN is a goner, but it's still 20 flights larger than EWR and has just as many 757s flying in and out.



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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2412 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4800 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 15):
Also people say that EWR is UA's third biggest hub in the system -- seems as if DEN is still bigger by 20 flights...

Seems that the rumors of the DEN hub's demise have been greatly exaggerated!  
Quoting NYCFlyer (Reply 22):
I would guess this has to do with the fact that EWR has a stronger o/d market, and is less of a domestic connecting hub?

Most EWR connecting traffic is coming in from or going out to international flights. There are not a great deal of domestic-domestic connections at EWR.


25 RoseFlyer : I am a bit surprised that SEA is actually the largest non-hub station by number of departures. UA went from all of the North Satellite to down to only
26 AeroWesty : My only concern is the extraordinarily high percentage of regional jets that fly through there now. Don't get me wrong, I love connecting at DEN, eve
27 EWRandMDW : From another thread: In the case of UA, LGA and JFK are the backwater outposts, wouldn't you say?
28 TOMMY767 : I'd say yes but UA retains crew bases in LGA/JFK...
29 mogandoCI : Even if it did, it won't make too much sense Unlike those 3, EWR is at nearly at the northeast corner of the country to most people, thus making the
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