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Why Is DEN DIA?  
User currently offline26point2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 856 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

Why do people often refer to Denver airport as DIA?

Stapleton was KDEN and the newer airport is KDEN but locals and media (and road signage?..not sure) use DIA as the airport reference.

I know "DIA" refers to Denver International Airport but hoping for more incisive fun facts.

Speaking of fun facts, there is a KDIA and it's not far from KDEN. Dixon, WY.

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User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4617 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

Locals will typically refer to their airports in some sort of abbreviated form that makes sense to them and can ignore the typical identifier. In Oklahoma City...in media and by locals it is referred to as WRWA (Will Rogers World Airport) not KOKC or OKC since...well that would just get confusing.

User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

Quoting 26point2 (Thread starter):
Why do people often refer to Denver airport as DIA?

Totally without base in any direct knowledge, and purely speculative, I'd guess DIA rolls off the tongue better than DEN does, and the residents of Denver were used to calling their airport by a name, Stapleton, rather than the airport code before DIA was built. It was also a way to refer to the new facility vs. Stapleton while DIA was being built, and it simply stuck.

Sort of like people in the Seattle area I know always refer to SEA as Sea-Tac, but here in Portland the airport is always called PDX, in San Francisco it's habit to say SFO, in Los Angeles LAX, etc. A friend of mine's dad still calls BUR simply "Lockheed" for its old name Lockheed Field, instead of Hollywood/Burbank (as I say it, a child of the 60s/70s), or just Burbank, as I believe is habit now for the Valley locals.

FAT in Fresno used to be referred to as simply "the airport" with a certain scowl by my grandmother, followed by a rant (fueled by exposé reporting in the Fresno Bee) about how her tax dollars went to lengthen the runway so that it could be used as a touch-and-go training facility, but then the airlines figured out that they could avoid paying fees by not actually touching down during those exercises.  



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User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5829 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3280 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 1):
Locals will typically refer to their airports in some sort of abbreviated form that makes sense to them and can ignore the typical identifier

Exactly. SYD is known as Mascot, for the suburb it is in and KSA or Kingsford Smith (it real name: Kingsford Smith International Airport)

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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3204 times:

Quoting 26point2 (Thread starter):
Why do people often refer to Denver airport as DIA?

As ouboy said - locals call it that. In Orlando, our airport code is MCO but the news media and locals call us OIA and they do the same in Tampa calling it TIA.


User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3702 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3134 times:

When DEN was being built and was overbudget and delayed...locals said DIA stood for Doesn't Include Airplanes  


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User currently offlineplaneguy727 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1258 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3104 times:

In Kansas City, MO they refer to the airport as KCI rather than MCI.


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User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3080 times:

As someone who lives near DEN/DIA maybe I can give some insight.

When DEN was being planed to build, they still had Stapelton (SIA), and also in the news media you could not just refer to it as the Airport, since they were building a new one and had an existing one. Thus they just called it by its name, Denver International Airport or DIA for short, you do though hear now a lot of people just saying "The Airport" but I think that DIA stuck in the 90s and is going to stay.



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User currently offlineNorthwest727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2967 times:

Somebody once told me, that due to Stapleton's namesake, Ben Stapleton, later being uncovered that he was involved with the KKK, is what lead to the "new Denver airport" not taking on the Stapleton name.

User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1698 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

Here in Dallas/Fort Worth, DAL is usually referred to as "Love Field" and DFW is referred to as "DFW." The highway signs here don't just say "Airport" on them, because there's two airports that could confuse people. Highway signs will often say "DFW Airport" or "Love Field."


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User currently offlinercair1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1357 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2649 times:
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Quoting N104UA (Reply 7):
When DEN was being planed to build, they still had Stapelton (SIA), and also in the news media you could not just refer to it as the Airport, since they were building a new one and had an existing one. Thus they just called it by its name, Denver International Airport or DIA for short, you do though hear now a lot of people just saying "The Airport" but I think that DIA stuck in the 90s and is going to stay.

  

Having lived through that - building DIA was a huge marketing effort and they need a nice, impressive, catchy name to distinguish it from "old" Stapleton. DIA fit because it promoted "Denver" and "International" (tho DIA has a pretty small international component) and, obviously, an airport. A lot of the hype behind DIA was to promote Denver and Colorado - so the name _had_ to have Denver in it.

One of the funniest things was - near the end when DIA was so over budget and things were looking bad - maintenance (building, not aircraft) at Stapleton was purposely cut and efforts were made to make it ratty. The funniest was when they miss-adjusted the color on all the TV's used in banks for displaying gates and such. You'd have a red one, then a green one, then one with the brightness turned all the way up, then one with that was so dark it was unreadable. They looked terrible - and to one in the industry - it was very obvious it was done on purpose. At one point they tried to propose naming it after mayor Penya, but that did not fly - so he got a road instead...

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User currently offlineGolfBravoRomeo From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 5):
When DEN was being built and was overbudget and delayed...locals said DIA stood for Doesn't Include Airplanes  

Wait, I thought they called it DOA.


User currently offlineNorthwest727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 491 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Quoting rcair1 (Reply 10):
One of the funniest things was - near the end when DIA was so over budget and things were looking bad - maintenance (building, not aircraft) at Stapleton was purposely cut and efforts were made to make it ratty. The funniest was when they miss-adjusted the color on all the TV's used in banks for displaying gates and such. You'd have a red one, then a green one, then one with the brightness turned all the way up, then one with that was so dark it was unreadable. They looked terrible - and to one in the industry - it was very obvious it was done on purpose.

That's funny. Seems similar to the railroad industry in the late 1960s, when the railroads gave up on passenger travel and tried to make it as much of a crappy experience as possible (sometimes I wonder if the airlines are doing that today). This was so they could petition Congress to create Amtrak and thus dump an unprofitable part of their business.


User currently offlineCOS777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2339 times:

I wonder how many people type "DIA" instead of "DEN" into the airport search box when booking tickets online. It won't find anything.

User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2339 times:

Quoting Northwest727 (Reply 8):
Somebody once told me, that due to Stapleton's namesake, Ben Stapleton, later being uncovered that he was involved with the KKK, is what lead to the "new Denver airport" not taking on the Stapleton name.

That is true about the KKK. But a sad part of Colorado history is that in the 1920s the Governor was KKK and one house of the state assembly was controlled by people in the KKK and the 2nd house was only a few people shy of having a KKK majority. The KKK was giant in Colorado at that time



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User currently offlineairfrnt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2830 posts, RR: 42
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

Quoting 26point2 (Thread starter):
Why do people often refer to Denver airport as DIA?

Because only aviation people thing of Denver International Airport as DEN  

DIA was DVX prior to the old DEN - Stapleton being decommissioned. They then swapped the airport code.

Quoting Northwest727 (Reply 8):
Somebody once told me, that due to Stapleton's namesake, Ben Stapleton, later being uncovered that he was involved with the KKK, is what lead to the "new Denver airport" not taking on the Stapleton name.

No uncovering needed. His links to the KKK was known when he was in office, and Stapleton was renamed after he had left office.


User currently offlineeldanno From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2225 times:

Here in the NC, the locals refer to GSO as "PTI" - short for Piedmont Triad International Airport. The airport brands itself extensively as PTI.

User currently offlinekcm572 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2037 times:

Here in the Detroit area, DTW is always refered to as Metro. I don't think I have ever heard anyone refer to it as DTW. Officially, it is Detroit Wayne County International Airport.

User currently offlinercair1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 1357 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1970 times:
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Quoting COS777 (Reply 13):
I wonder how many people type "DIA" instead of "DEN" into the airport search box when booking tickets online. It won't find anything.

Guilty - and I'm a pilot and a Colorado native. I should know. I still type DIA in the stupid box half the time.



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User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Not a lot of people refer to O'hare as ORD, I'm sure. I'm also going to go out on a limb (wing?) and suggest that Fresno doesn't say "FAT" or Sioux City, "SUX". The bottom line is that 95% of the population doesn't care about the official airport identifiers unless they are trying to interpret their luggage tag.


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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4138 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

As I understand it, the DEN code just transferred since they closed the old Stapleton facility, and DIA was merely the project name. Much different than DFW where DAL (Love Field) stayed open to create the Wright controversy.


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User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2185 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1829 times:

Quoting eldanno (Reply 16):
Here in the NC, the locals refer to GSO as "PTI" - short for Piedmont Triad International Airport. The airport brands itself extensively as PTI.

Whenever I drive through Greensboro (love that place, btw), I'm always tripped up by the sign on the 85 that says "PTI Airport Use Exit" whatever.


User currently offlinestburke From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1566 times:

All the reasons above, just the way the nomenclature played out.

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 5):
locals said DIA stood for Doesn't Include Airplanes

And "Done In April", "Done In August", "Delayed Indefinably Airport", "Democrats In Action" and "Denver's Imaginary Airport".

There's an awesome book called Lessons Learned: Denver International that takes a massively in-depth look and the nightmare that was DIA. It's a bit dated now but really opened up what had gone on.



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