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User currently offlineBthebest From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 506 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 27809 times:

This topic was brought up before but archived after a while.

Now we know some details of the guest list at the Royal Wedding, what aircraft can we expect and where?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...illiam_of_Wales_and_Kate_Middleton

There seem to be a fair few Royals from the Gulf states so a few nice jumbos is possible, plus some smaller bizjets from the European Royals.

There will also be officials and diplomats from the commonwealth states so maybe a RNZAF 757 and RAAF 737, and Polaris fom Canada?

Most likely 'parking places' would be Luton or Stanstead, maybe Gatwick or Farnborough even?

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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 27820 times:

Quoting Bthebest (Thread starter):
RNZAF 757 and RAAF 737

That's a nice LONG journey in a 73 and 75


User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7126 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 27789 times:

Quoting Bthebest (Thread starter):
There will also be officials and diplomats from the commonwealth states so maybe a RNZAF 757

They tend not to use the 757 for those kind of trips. More likely the PM and Gov Gen will be a scheduled flight.


User currently offlineBthebest From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 27741 times:

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 2):
They tend not to use the 757 for those kind of trips. More likely the PM and Gov Gen will be a scheduled flight.

Maybe as both of them are going it might be worthwhile. They could also stop by Canberra and pick up the Australian party as well in these times of austerity?


User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 27678 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 1):
That's a nice LONG journey in a 73 and 75

Not as bad as you might think. RNZAF 757s go to the UK all the time.
Remember they're lightly loaded compared to a commercial flight so maybe just one stop or two at the most would do it.
Same goes for the Aussie 737-700s (BBJs).


User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 27672 times:

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 2):
They tend not to use the 757 for those kind of trips. More likely the PM and Gov Gen will be a scheduled flight.

Maybe John and Anand could share one of NZs new Skycouches.  


User currently offlineLofty From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 27617 times:

Who knows they might be saving money and flying in First on BA.

User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 39
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 27603 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 1):
That's a nice LONG journey in a 73

Not too bad in a 737-7DT BBJ.   I couldn't think of a much nicer way to fly to the wedding of Prince William of Wales and Miss Middleton.

Well, I could, but they don't fly any more.  


User currently offlinebj87 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 27275 times:

The Dutch officials will probably take the government F70. Maybe an air force F50 to save money on gas, after all we are Dutch, but most likely the F70.


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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7364 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 26963 times:

Quoting Bthebest (Thread starter):
Most likely 'parking places' would be Luton or Stanstead, maybe Gatwick or Farnborough even?

Perhaps Northolt is another possibility?


User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2591 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 26859 times:
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Quoting NZ767 (Reply 4):
Same goes for the Aussie 737-700s (BBJs).

Our PM is apparently going to Japan and China first, then to the UK for the wedding.

It's a very long journey indeed for a 737. Even if it is a VIP aircraft I'm not sure I'd enjoy flying so long on a narrowbody.



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User currently offlinesq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 26797 times:

Quoting NZ767 (Reply 5):
Maybe John and Anand could share one of NZs new Skycouches.

HAHAHA! That is amazing.

Seems a bit odd that the only royals from Asia are the Thai (make sense) and Brunei (didn't know they were tight like that) royal families. No one from Japan or Malaysia (a former colony to boot!)?

While I was reading the list I was also surprised to see some officials from commonwealth countries, but not all - is there a special tie between the Bahamas and the UK (versus other the commonwealth countries in the Carribbean)?

What would the folks coming in from the Bahamas or St. Vincent and the Gerenadines take? BA commercial from Barbados?



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User currently offlineYOWguy From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 26395 times:

We are in the middle of an election , with the vote set for May 2nd.

The Prime Minister has stated that he won't be attending the wedding , so I don't think you will see a Canadian Polaris .

Governor General David Johnston could attend , representing Canada, but I would think he would use a Challenger instead.


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6025 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 25417 times:

Alas, our GG is going nowhere 


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User currently offlineBthebest From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 23497 times:

Quoting sq_ek_freak (Reply 12):
While I was reading the list I was also surprised to see some officials from commonwealth countries, but not all - is there a special tie between the Bahamas and the UK (versus other the commonwealth countries in the Carribbean)?

Well the list isn't complete and only has those that have confirmed they're going. Others might be busy or not publicly confirmed.


User currently offlinebaguy From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 23233 times:

Quoting sq_ek_freak (Reply 12):
Seems a bit odd that the only royals from Asia are the Thai (make sense) and Brunei (didn't know they were tight like that) royal families. No one from Japan or Malaysia (a former colony to boot!)?

The original stance on that was that this is not a state wedding - i'm pretty sure the guests have been selected by HRH and Miss Middleton (with a bit of help from others i'd imagine!) and therefore aren't technically obliged to invite anyone - hence why the Obamas were not invited (had it been a state wedding they almost certainly would've been)

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User currently offlineYYZYYT From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 943 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 23233 times:

Quoting YOWguy (Reply 13):
Governor General David Johnston could attend , representing Canada, but I would think he would use a Challenger instead.

Surely he would fly commercial for something like this...


User currently offlinejgw787 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 21883 times:

Quoting Lofty (Reply 6):
Who knows they might be saving money and flying in First on BA.


I never thought I would see "saving money" and "flying in First" in the same sentence 


User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2999 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 20669 times:

Im not sure how "HE Ja Song-nam (North Korea's ambassador to the UK)", managed to wriggle into the Royal guest list considering the political situation between two countries is barely non-existance. But would be interesting to see an IL-62M fly in for the occassion!

User currently offlineeugegall From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2009, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 20361 times:

I think Farnborough (FAB) will be very very busy with some very very different aircraft.... Looking forward to these arriving.

Will we know when to expect what and to where?

[Edited 2011-04-20 14:49:25]

User currently offlineBthebest From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 20263 times:

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 19):
But would be interesting to see an IL-62M fly in for the occassion!

But if he's the Ambassador to the UK then he should already be here?

Also, slightly off topic, but what interests do North Korea have in the UK that require an embassy? I always considered NK to be a very private, internal country.


User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 19988 times:

Quoting eugegall (Reply 20):
I think Farnborough (FAB) will be very very busy with some very very different aircraft.... Looking forward to these arriving.

Will we know when to expect what and to where?

If its large think LHR & STN.. Mid range N smaller Luton, Northolt, Farnborough.. Bunch of Execs wont be anything new for us in easyland =)~


User currently offlineMileHighOffice From Australia, joined Jun 2010, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 16546 times:

Quoting bj87 (Reply 9):
Maybe an air force F50 to save money on gas, after all we are Dutch

   LOL


User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1145 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 16018 times:

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 17):
Surely he would fly commercial for something like this...

I kind of doubt that. I seem to recall the past GG flying back and forth to her chateau in France on the challenger / tax payers dime.



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User currently offlinetruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 16024 times:

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 22):
If its large think LHR & STN.. Mid range N smaller Luton, Northolt, Farnborough.. Bunch of Execs wont be anything new for us in easyland =)

What do you count as large? Where will the RAAF 737 and RNZAF 757 go?


25 Giancavia : The middle eastern 747 execs .. etc I dont know what private folk were Invited so I cant be sure on what will arrive. Not sure about those 2 but my g
26 EDICHC : I think Japan has it's own issues to deal with at this time.
27 Post contains images UAEflyer : You will probably see these birds in LHR
28 Post contains images Bthebest : Would we be more likely to see biz jets as opposed to large transports? It is after all a private function so its not like they all need a massive ent
29 fauzi : Pretty sure the Brunei B744 V8-ALI will be there soon for a few days at least. The plane sat on the tarmac at LHR for a few days too last week.
30 sq_ek_freak : Ah now I feel a bit silly - that's a very important distinction you make! Wasn't aware it wasn't a state wedding - makes sense! True, was just wonder
31 Post contains links tayser : to quote the RAAF: http://www.airforce.gov.au/aircraft/bbj.aspx it's a 737 which only accomodates up to 30 pax, and range-wise: Gillard will be flyin
32 blueflyer : Much easier to transfer counterfeit money from North Korea to a foreign country when the transfer occurs under the guise of diplomatic bags. Helps to
33 Bthebest : Correction to my earlier statement: Assumed they were from the Dubai Air Wing because of the colour schemes and didn't realise there was an Abu Dahbi
34 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : A few more where those came from..... View Large View MediumPhoto © Jussi Kettunen
35 LX138 : Thats bizarre. Maybe his kids went to Eton? I'm guessing we'll see the Qatari A343 and Jordanian A343 for their states guests? What will Christian Wu
36 MileHighOffice : Wow I did not realise Amiri had a 77W now! Would love to see the interior fit-out in that. I bet Kuwait wishes it had its private gov 748 VIP ready.
37 UAEflyer : This 77W was supposed to go Jet Airways. I would love to see the interior of any wide-body, but unfortunately all the beauty is limited for some peop
38 truemanQLD : Wow, CBR-NRT is a very long flight for a 737! I know when Australia hosted the APEC summit most of the planes flew into SYD and then went to airports
39 MileHighOffice : Oh, OK -- thanks!
40 NQYGuy : Brilliant, you made my day.
41 Kaiarahi : I don't believe Mme Jean had a chalet in France - or anywhere else. So no taxpayer's dime involved.
42 Post contains links and images Owleye : Wouldn't be the RNLAF V-11 a more logical choice: small jet but fast? The Crown Prince is using it often for short routes.... View Large View MediumP
43 Post contains links Bthebest : BBC have released an updated list: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13175842 Looks like we could see an Kuwait widebody, and something from Bahrain. Anyon
44 MH017 : Do not forget he holds a valid license for the Fokker 70...so now you know which aircraft will be used...
45 VV701 : Not all visitors flying in for the wedding will be VIPs. BA are reporting a significant increease in bookings over the wedding period. Here is how the
46 Giancavia : Kuwait A310 has been in and out of LTN recently a few times and their VIP aircraft are pretty regular visitors, Probably A319/A310.
47 NZ767 : "Anyone know if the Kings of Swaziland and Tongo have any dedicated transports?" No the King of Tonga doesn't have his own transport. His country does
48 Bthebest : Quick check on their site and you're looking at about a $200 premium each way for that weekend.
49 Quokka : Some of the supposed royals might not need an aircraft - among the BBC list are such memorable characters as the King of Greece, the King of Romania,
50 Owleye : I know and I'm aware the whole world is waching this event and so the arrival of vips. Maybe the F70 shall be used but than purely for "marketing" re
51 richierich : With all due respect, who cares how the VIPs arrive and how it looks? They could take the Eurostar as far as most people are concerned. The world is
52 413X3 : Considering I find this entire fiasco to be pointless and ridiculous and cannot understand why people get so obsessed with English out of date Royalt
53 Bthebest : You're commenting on a thread about the specific topic, in a civil aviation forum on a website dedicated to aviation!!! Whilst the wedding may not be
54 mariner : They're the legitimate claimants to the the throne, just as Prince Juan Carlos was when Spain was a republic. Then Franco died, the monarchy was rest
55 richierich : Sorry guys, you're misinterpreting me! The PUBLIC as a whole doesn't care, and I would be very surprised if the king or queen of one country or anoth
56 Post contains images Bthebest : Understood.
57 Owleye : The vips themselves. It has all to do with profilation. Especially for kingdoms: it's one whole fairytale. And by the way, is your president flying s
58 DocLightning : Not when the interior is all tricked out...
59 MileHighOffice : Yes, but Dutch tax payers might disagree with you there. Ever negotiated costs with the Dutch?!? The Dutch royals may take KLM to avoid the public sc
60 TruemanQLD : I would disagree, I have never heard anything about it in the media. The only time I have ever heard anything about the BBJ's in Australian media is
61 PanHAM : The answer is that the Queen is "only" head of state, whereas the POTUS is head of state with full executive powers, must be reacheable any second of
62 Post contains links and images bralo20 : I don't think our crown prince, Prins Filip will take this: View Large View MediumPhoto © Tiago Palla - Portugal Spotters Airbus A330-300 But rather
63 richierich : President Obama is not attending. If he was, however, he would be on Air Force One. It's the only way he travels abroad.
64 Giancavia : Wow at first i thought that was some awful hybrid charter airline colourscheme but its Belgian govt. Why did they cut off half the insignia on the tai
65 Post contains links and images bralo20 : It's the "new" logo, the old one was barely visible... I think they tried to do something "modern" compared to the old logo: Actually they even modif
66 Post contains images CPH-R : Eep, surely they could have found a better file photo of our Queen Speaking of which, I'm assuming that she will be flying one of the RDAF Challenger
67 Bthebest : That's the best point so far I think. All of the foreign Royals and diplomats are attending, mostly, because of their official position as opposed to
68 AA777223 : What's with that? Making an appearance would seem kinda important to me. The US and the UK go way back, ya know? I think it is a little offensive to
69 Bthebest : The wedding is a Royal wedding as opposed to a State wedding. The difference being that there is no obligation for the wedding to have any political
70 richierich : Correct, this is not the G8 summit. According to one of the "news" shows I watched that briefly covered the wedding, there were several high-profile
71 Viscount724 : He wasn't invited.
72 Bthebest : Surely his purpose is that's he's already in London? Not much point being an ambassador to a foreign country if you're at home!
73 styles9002 : Any US Air Force aircraft the President of the United States is flying in is 'Air Force One', it is not restricted to the B747. Obviously, the image
74 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : The US embassy in London (Grosvenor Square) is only about 2 miles from Westminster Abbey, the wedding site. He can walk to the wedding. The ambassado
75 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : Considering the distance, the Princess might use this..... View Large View MediumPhoto © Graham Wasey The Yang Di Pertuan was invited and might fly
76 pnwtraveler : Hardly since he will be in Britain shortly after for a full state visit. William is currently third in line so it isn't if the King is getting marrie
77 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : They now usually use Barbados registered Gulfstream IV or A318 Elite..... Either of these?..... They all could fit in this..... View Large View Mediu
78 Giancavia : Well Im going to hit up Luton tommorow.. hope something interesting comes in for this wedding but I havent heard of anything anywhere so far.
79 Post contains links fn1001 : His Majesty Michael I King of the Romanians lives in Aubonne, a few kilometers from GVA. He was in the fifities a pilot, but for sure he will not fly
80 Post contains links and images DEVILFISH : Mr. Bean is always interesting!..... .http://www.malaysiaminilover.com/wp-...oads/2008/12/mini_cooper_bean1.jpg[Edited 2011-04-27 05:22:34]
81 Post contains images Bthebest : He should turn up in the mini
82 AA777223 : My shorts are in no knot. I just wanted to make sure that our nation did its responsibility to show due respect to a great ally. the little things ca
83 GCT64 : I arrived into LHR this afternoon. The only VIP aricraft visible was the rather common V8-ALI B744 of the Sultan of Brunei. The Dutch F70 (PH-KBX) and
84 ual777uk : I beleive that the reason he was not invited was due to the fact that most of the invites are extended to Commonwealth Nations. I could be wrong but
85 Bthebest : thanks for the info! apparently most of the foreign royals are attending a function tonight so they should all be on the ground by this evening
86 ohsopc : Nope she actually took commercial... TG910 departing BKK at 01.00 on 28 April. Thai royalties almost always use commercial flights on state visits ab
87 pnwtraveler : The full on State Visit shortly after will be even more of an event for Obama because the whole thing will be a US/Brit love in. He will be front and
88 Post contains images DEVILFISH : I should've typed..."Mr. Bean and his Mini are....." . As opposed to the unique, last-of-the-line A340-8000..... Thanks for that. Makes one think the
89 Post contains links Giancavia : Only thing that came to Luton was this Canadian Air Force CL144.. I Assume it is for the wedding but who knows.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/giancar
90 sw733 : With the PM of Canada declining his invite, did ANYONE from the Canadian Government come? If not, it might just be some other government or military
91 Vanguard : There is (I think - I could only glimpse it) a middle eastern B737 (with winglets) been parked near the end of Farnborough runway all of today. Any id
92 Post contains links Viscount724 : Yes the Canadian Governor General (the Queen's official representative in Canada) and his wife are attending the wedding. They left YOW Wednesday, po
93 EZYAirbus : 3AMGA DA900EX belonging to The Principality Of Monaco landed at LTN this evening at 1928 Glenn
94 Bthebest : Foreign Secretary Hague is hosting a dinner for the commonwealth and foreign diplomats tonight at Lancaster House.
95 Giancavia : Guess thats the answer. They toed it round from the back this morning a about 0800 and parked it behind a bunch of other planes so it wasnt planned t
96 Post contains images blueflyer : Can't he swallow his pride and take this?
97 777STL : The simple answer is that Obama wasn't invited.
98 jfk777 : Obama would have presented a security nightmare. Nancy Reagan went to the Andrew & Fergie wedding in 1986. For some reason diplomatic planes use
99 Post contains images PlaneAdmirer : Those were all his personal choices of course. The secret service had nothing whatsoever to do with them.
100 pnwtraveler : This would not have Bush's doing. There is a constant push and pull with the Secret Service who will do all they can to protect the President. There
101 CuriousFlyer : I would argue about this part of your post, and many others certainly would too, but this is an airliner forum so I will stop there. I agree with the
102 Post contains images Bthebest : anyway...... back to the topic in hand: So a couple at Northolt and Luton. Farnborough appears to be the place for the larger Biz Jets. Anyone confirm
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