While Google chrome has translated this article into English, the text is confusing. People familiar with Thai language, can you translate this article and tell us whether 9W is leasing out 2 additional B77Ws to TG or not?
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nethkt From Thailand, joined Apr 2001, 985 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
Yep!
2 more 777-300ER from Jets Airways, due OCT and NOV 2011.
2 years lease, so total will be 5 77Ws from 9W by NOV 2011.
2 747-400 to be converted to Cargo by Boeing.
Not sure where they'll utilize these 2 77Ws,
LHR - No extra slot, 77W iso 744 is cutting seats, no point.
FRA - same as above.
MUC - Cutting seats?
CDG - double daily? wait, they are cutting 2 744s so these 77Ws should do the ex-744 route.
FCO/MXP - Perhaps FCO?
ATH - 772ER is ok, no need to ops F class.
MAD - Perhaps? MAD/FCO are 744 routes.
CPH/OSL/ARN - No way, maybe all Economy A380 should replace 744 on these routes!!
ZRH - replace 346 for more seats? Then 346 to LHR/FRA? Wait, no point cutting seats on lucrative 'We-can-fly-any-old-non-PTV-aircrafts-and-still-overbooked" routes!
DME - Then 773 to be used somewhere else intra asia?
But anything can and will happen to THAI!
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behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4441 posts, RR: 43 Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1681 times:
Quoting nethkt (Reply 1): Not sure where they'll utilize these 2 77Ws,
LHR - No extra slot, 77W iso 744 is cutting seats, no point.
FRA - same as above.
MUC - Cutting seats?
CDG - double daily? wait, they are cutting 2 744s so these 77Ws should do the ex-744 route.
FCO/MXP - Perhaps FCO?
ATH - 772ER is ok, no need to ops F class.
MAD - Perhaps? MAD/FCO are 744 routes.
CPH/OSL/ARN - No way, maybe all Economy A380 should replace 744 on these routes!!
ZRH - replace 346 for more seats? Then 346 to LHR/FRA? Wait, no point cutting seats on lucrative 'We-can-fly-any-old-non-PTV-aircrafts-and-still-overbooked" routes!
DME - Then 773 to be used somewhere else intra asia?
CDG for W11 on Thai Airways is planned with B 77Ws in any case so these 2 additional birds would be replacing a currently operated B 744 route. So MAD/FCO could be the serious contenders but they dont require such an ultra premium configured aircraft for their flights.
HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4414 posts, RR: 76 Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1547 times:
Quoting behramjee (Reply 3): So MAD/FCO could be the serious contenders but they dont require such an ultra premium configured aircraft for their flights.
The 9W 77W - which will be some of the aircraft TK will be returning - are with an 8F 30J configuration actually less premium heavy configured than the B744s that are currently plying the MAD and FCO routes.
sq_ek_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1583 posts, RR: 21 Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1306 times:
A quick question regarding TG crewing on flights operated by this aircraft type:
Given that the aircraft is configured in a totally different layout than any other aircraft in TG's fleet, I was wondering how the cabin crew who work these flights cope? Have a select group of crew received additional training for this subfleet? I would say disruption would be minimal for Economy (though galley configuration is most likely different as well) but for Business and First classes that require more elaborate set up and service from the crew, I'm sure its a bit more tricky. TG's business class seats are set up in a more traditional 2-2-2 config versus the herringbone layout of 9W which I hear are tricky to work around. Further, TG's 777s don't feature a First Class cabin while 9W's does. I know TG uses the aircraft in a three class configuration, though they use suites in First. Again, how do the crew get around this?
I have to say, this does nothing for Thai's brand awareness or identity - while Thai's aircraft vary greatly in terms of seating layouts and such, they all still retain a general corporate theme, versus the 9W aircraft that are completely different. I would understand if this was a temporary lease to cover a busy travel period or delays in receiving new aircraft, but hearing that they might be taking more of these aircraft and the fact that they've had them for so long already is unfortunate to hear.
nethkt From Thailand, joined Apr 2001, 985 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1201 times:
Quoting sq_ek_freak (Reply 5): but hearing that they might be taking more of these aircraft and the fact that they've had them for so long already is unfortunate to hear.
For defo, same feeling here!
Maybe 3 77Ws running CDG/NRT is too little chance for TG high rank managements to get on F class suite?
So let's lease more and put them on other routes for better chance?
Just my silly thought
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