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US Carriers: 10-Abreast Seating In Their 777s?  
User currently offlineJetBlue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1454 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2942 times:

I'm not trying to give them ideas but I'm surprised that UA, DL, AA and CO went with 9-Abreast seating on their 772s, I mean I would expect them to shove in as much passengers as possible in Y class considering that they're doing everything to make money just like EK, EY, NZ, AF and other airlines are doing nowadays.

And is it possible to have an 11-Abreast seating on the 744/748i or the A380?


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User currently offlineOA412 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5240 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

Quoting JetBlue777 (Thread starter):
I'm not trying to give them ideas but I'm surprised that UA, DL, AA and CO went with 9-Abreast seating on their 772s, I mean I would expect them to shove in as much passengers as possible in Y class considering that they're doing everything to make money just like EK, EY, NZ, AF and other airlines are doing nowadays.

Do keep in mind that 9-abreast was the norm when all four received their 777s. UA was the launch customer, and, IIRC, 10-abreast hadn't really been done when the rest received their first aircraft. That said, I expect that if US carriers see potential to increase revenues by moving to a 10-abreast configuration, they will do so. Until then, they'll stick to the 9-abreast configurations they have today.



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User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

Quoting JetBlue777 (Thread starter):
And is it possible to have an 11-Abreast seating on the 744/748i or the A380?

I find it hard to understand the logic of the likes of AF and EK having 10 abreast on both their 777s and A380s, when both planes operate similar long haul routes, and the latter is a lot wider, it seems inconsistent.

It wouldn't work on a 747, as it's too narrow, but it seems strange there are no 11Y A380s, though I'm not complaining?



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20511 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

Quoting JetBlue777 (Thread starter):
I mean I would expect them to shove in as much passengers as possible in Y class

I doubt if it's coming to US airlines anytime soon. UA's newly updated 777 cabins only changed the main cabin from 2-5-2 to 3-3-3.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25125 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2209 times:

Quoting JetBlue777 (Thread starter):
'm not trying to give them ideas but I'm surprised that UA, DL, AA and CO went with 9-Abreast seating on their 772s, I mean I would expect them to shove in as much passengers as possible in Y class considering that they're doing everything to make money just like EK, EY, NZ, AF and other airlines are doing nowadays.

A high percentage of Americans (and to a slightly lesser extent Canadians) can barely fit into a 9-abreast 777 Y class seat, never mind 10-abreast, and obesity is getting worse, not better. I doubt any of the North American 777 operators will change to 10-abreast.


User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5393 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2150 times:

Quoting JetBlue777 (Thread starter):
And is it possible to have an 11-Abreast seating on the 744/748i or the A380?

747, no. The 10Y seating on the 747 is 17.2", just like the 737/757 and not far from a 10Y 777.

A380, 11Y on the main deck should be possible in theory, but you can reach the maximum certified capacity of the aircraft with an all-Y configuration featuring 10Y on the main deck and 8Y on the upper deck.


User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2038 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 5):
A380, 11Y on the main deck should be possible in theory, but you can reach the maximum certified capacity of the aircraft with an all-Y configuration featuring 10Y on the main deck and 8Y on the upper deck.

Basically, there's no incentive in having 11Y across 'cause it would top certified capacity? Theoretically, how would that go? 3-5-3? Madness, if you ask me.

I'm so glad I don't fly Y long haul.


User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2012 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 5):
A380, 11Y on the main deck should be possible in theory, but you can reach the maximum certified capacity of the aircraft with an all-Y configuration featuring 10Y on the main deck and 8Y on the upper deck.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/travel...gers/2007/06/06/1181089193488.html

Quote:
"We can do 11 abreast in coach (economy class)," Mr Leahy said.

I'm sure it would be certified for 11Y if required, this would give 1000 pasengers in Y!?! Not my idea of fun, but maybe it could be used in Asia on busy short routes (e.g. China or India)?



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User currently offlineGullAirACK From Ireland, joined Feb 2011, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1719 times:

Quoting JetBlue777 (Thread starter):
I'm not trying to give them ideas but I'm surprised that UA, DL, AA and CO went with 9-Abreast seating on their 772s, I mean I would expect them to shove in as much passengers as possible in Y class

Oh God...Moderators, shut this thread down before Finance departments spot discover 10 seats can fit!


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