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Boeing Set To Expand 787 Mod Operation  
User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2673 posts, RR: 4
Posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7835 times:

Flightblogger has an interesting article about the 787 mod operation.

From an outsider it seems like Boeing now has more control than ever over the program excecution. From the article:

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Boeing is advancing toward full-activation of what it sees as a second 787 factory at its Everett, Washington facility, one designed to incorporate the aircraft's final certified configuration into dozens of Dreamliners already built, in a methodical move to convert billions of dollars of production inventory into cash for itself and its supplier partners and revenue generating aircraft for its customers
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Program sources briefed on the plans for ATS say what Boeing has devised is a systematic approach to tackling the 140,000 unfinished tasks left remaining on the fleet.
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With the latest configuration standards program sources say Boeing will be able to eliminate more than 30,000 of the outstanding jobs on the unfinished 787s by nullifying the planned structural, systems and software changes to the originally built aircraft, and implementing a wholesale wiring change - believed to be dubbed NC7 - bringing each up to a deliverable standard.

It is nice to see the 787 gaining industrial momentum towards EIS. IIRC Boeing now produces 2 Dreamliners each month, and will increase this to 2.5 by mid year. that should translate into 27 Dreamliners being built this year alone.


http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...oeings-everett-787-ats-mod-op.html


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User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3364 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 7674 times:

"Program sources briefed on the plans for ATS say what Boeing has devised is a systematic approach to tackling the 140,000 unfinished tasks left remaining on the fleet"

As a project manager by trade (but on a tiny government IT project) the thought of trying to manage this make my head spin!

I'm always suprised that they're still snapping together birds at the moment when none are getting delivered so the number of unfinished ones are contantly building up (albeit with less changes than the earlier birds) but a decision must of been made that it's sill more cost effective to continue building planes and then fix them up rather than stop and concentrate on the early planes.

Good luck Boeing can't wait to see some of these planes delivered!


User currently offlineAquila3 From Italy, joined Nov 2010, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7483 times:

So will they deliver them first and get them fixed after? I do not see Customers/autorities very happy with that, but seems everything is possible...


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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 3, posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7073 times:

Quoting Aquila3 (Reply 2):
So will they deliver them first and get them fixed after? I do not see Customers/autorities very happy with that, but seems everything is possible...

That's not what he's saying. The mod centers take airplanes that have come out of the final assembly lines and incorporate all the changes *prior* to delivery.

Tom.


User currently onlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3210 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6753 times:
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while this is good news, it's going to put a damper on ATS's normal business... at least for several months.
while the number 140,000 seems large it's about 3500 per airframe and much of that (say up to 1/2) is engine and interiors installation, plus system testing...


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29672 posts, RR: 84
Reply 5, posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6656 times:
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On the plus side, keeping the work at PAE instead of sending the planes to SAT to be completed should allow quicker completion since you have a larger pool of trained talent to draw from should you encounter a snag.

User currently offlineHiJazzey From Saudi Arabia, joined Sep 2005, 855 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6363 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 4):
while this is good news, it's going to put a damper on ATS's normal business... at least for several months.

What's the relationship between ATS and Boeing? Sounds unusual for ATS to completely vacate their own facility.


User currently onlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3210 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6085 times:
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Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 6):
What's the relationship between ATS and Boeing? Sounds unusual for ATS to completely vacate their own facility.

close, however they do a lot of work from airlines (3-4 SW birds were just there for skin inspections), military, and some customer installations on new Boeing planes both before and after delivery.. they have been working on 787's for the past year.. however I bet the money offered was an incentive to relocate some operations elsewhere


User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 696 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 12 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3417 times:
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Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 6):
What's the relationship between ATS and Boeing? Sounds unusual for ATS to completely vacate their own facility.

ATS has leased out their largest hangar to Boeing for 3 years.
They vacated this part of their facility because they can make more money being a landlord then an MRO.
They are now bank owned Macquarie Australia - and the bottom line is very important to them.

Quoting kanban (Reply 7):
close, however they do a lot of work from airlines (3-4 SW birds were just there for skin inspections), military, and some customer installations on new Boeing planes both before and after delivery.. they have been working on 787's for the past year.. however I bet the money offered was an incentive to relocate some operations elsewhere

ATS has not been working on the 787 - they had leased 2 bays to Boeing.
Southwest is one of their strongest customers - usually 12-15 aircraft there at once (Y-checks, paint, skin repairs and skin mods, conversions and WIFI).
They actually inspected upwards of 12 aircraft for the skin inspections.


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