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Thomson 767 Bird Strike At SFB  
User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12702 times:

Yestereday a Thomson 763 suffered a bird strike at SFB. Flight was TOM033 bound for LGW. The aircraft was G-OOAN.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-13154741


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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12594 times:

They were talking about it on one of the Orlando News channels today. The bird they believe was a bald eagle.

User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12552 times:

A bald eagle is a heavy dense bird. But it will take the smear and guts samples to confirm the bird spiecies.

What part of the B-763 was hit?

How much damage is there?


User currently offlinedumbell2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 914 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12545 times:
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Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
What part of the B-763 was hit?

Per the first line of the article

Quote:
A Gatwick-bound plane had to make an emergency landing after a bird struck one of the aircraft's engines shortly after it took off from Florida.


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12526 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 2):
A bald eagle is a heavy dense bird. But it will take the smear and guts samples to confirm the bird spiecies.

Actually a bald eagle only weighs between 6-10 lbs, with most in the 8 lbs or under range.


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5489 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 12355 times:

Why send it to the Smithsonian? Doesn't really matter what type it was at this point.

Saw the engine last night, small bit of feathers on the bottom of the engine inlet cowl (no streaks of blood/guts that I saw). I didn't see inside of it so I don't know how much damage there is to the fan blades and engine.


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Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12256 times:
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Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 5):
Why send it to the Smithsonian? Doesn't really matter what type it was at this point.

Because a Bald Eagle is protected- so they need to prosecute

(yes - I'm kidding - though it is a shame to loose such a beautiful bird).



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User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12162 times:

Whats the news on the aircraft? Will it be at SFB for a while and do you think TOM will send a replacement plane?


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User currently offlineThomasCook From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 793 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12153 times:

It's not a good week for G-OOAN;

Thomson B767 Diversion to BDA

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User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12132 times:

Quoting ThomasCook (Reply 8):
It's not a good week for G-OOAN;

Oh dear! Thomson/First Choice seem to be having a tough time. Not to long ago one of their other 763's had that VERY hard landing at BRS which almost wrote the plane off. Then that TOM 737 going off the runway at christmas... Anyway nothing against TOM, I think they're one of the best!



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2873 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12091 times:

Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 5):
Why send it to the Smithsonian? Doesn't really matter what type it was at this point.

It is a federal program to pin-point the exact type of bird involved in the incident, possible migratory patterns, etc. Bird strikes cost airlines A LOT of $$$ every year and can be a safety hazard to those on the aircraft and those under the aircraft as well (such as the "miracle on the Hudson"). The Smithsonian is where the feathers and blood gets analyzed.

Some useful links:

http://birdstrike.org/

http://wildlife-mitigation.tc.faa.gov/wildlife/default.aspx

http://wildlife-mitigation.tc.faa.gov/wildlife/speciesid.aspx



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User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12090 times:

There is a picture of the birdstrike.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news...ando-Sanford-International-Airport



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User currently offlinePlainplane From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 837 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11971 times:

Judging by the shot in the news story looks like it was taking off from 9L and that the photo was taken from the Aerosim (formerly Delta Connection Academy) parking lot.

User currently offline757dab From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11944 times:

Quoting Plainplane (Reply 12):
Judging by the shot in the news story looks like it was taking off from 9L and that the photo was taken from the Aerosim (formerly Delta Connection Academy) parking lot.

That's correct



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User currently offlinealphaomega From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 568 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 11916 times:

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 11):
There is a picture of the birdstrike.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news...ando-Sanford-International-Airport

I love this amazing news report...apparently the 767 lifted off while "taxiing" down the runway, and according to Larry Dale, the engines didn't "go dead"....hahaha!   


User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 11751 times:

Quoting alphaomega (Reply 14):
I love this amazing news report...apparently the 767 lifted off while "taxiing" down the runway, and according to Larry Dale, the engines didn't "go dead"....hahaha!

Haha well what can I say... thats the news for yah!      



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User currently offlineblueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2859 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11574 times:

I understand today's TOM050 LGW/MCO is being operated by B757 G-BYAY, via KBGR.   

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User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1810 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11459 times:

Must have had a knock on effect. Today's MAN-SFB due to depart around 10am this morning has gone back almost 12 hours.


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User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11216 times:

Quoting blueshamu330s (Reply 16):
I understand today's TOM050 LGW/MCO is being operated by B757 G-BYAY, via KBGR.

Yes I saw it takeoff LGW.



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User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3206 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10100 times:

Quoting blueshamu330s (Reply 16):
I understand today's TOM050 LGW/MCO is being operated by B757 G-BYAY, via KBGR.   

Thomson have had a torrid winter season with regards the longhaul fleet! This will be the 3rd time they send a 757 across the pond to SFB. Twice from MAN and now from LGW. Not good!

To be fair to TOM though, they were supposed to have their 787's by now so they can't be entirely blamed for the state of their ageing 767 fleet. (Just a quick one - The First Choice 767's are due to get an interior re-fit, with the TOM interior).



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User currently offlinegoblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 9151 times:

I didn't know
a) we had bald eagles in FL.
b) they flew so close to airports. I'd expect this from other birds but not a smarter eagle.
this is assuming the bird was actually a bald eagle, of course.



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User currently offlinecaptainstefan From United States of America, joined May 2007, 426 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8880 times:

Quoting goblin211 (Reply 20):
we had bald eagles in FL.
b) they flew so close to airports. I'd expect this from other birds but not a smarter eagle.
this is assuming the bird was actually a bald eagle, of course.

Both reasons precisely why the remains will be sent to the Smithsonian. Maybe an anomaly in the blood can tell the analysts that the bird was sick and had lost some instinctive navigating/survival abilities, or if it was malnourished and branching out in search of food.



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User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1810 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8276 times:

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 19):

totally agree the 787's should have been online well before now.

Interesting about the ex FCA 76's being refitted, is it due to coincide with the livery updates. I'm aware that all TOM aircraft will be wearing current colours by year end?



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User currently offlineCALTUS67 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8195 times:

Though bald eagles prefer areas away from human habitation they quickly adjust to human presence when food is plentiful and the need to feed their young is great! If this was indeed a bald eagle he could well have been feeding on a dead critter on the runway before grabbing some to go and lifted off just as the 767 was doing the same!

User currently offlineplanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 3 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8053 times:

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 19):
Thomson have had a torrid winter season with regards the longhaul fleet! This will be the 3rd time they send a 757 across the pond to SFB. Twice from MAN and now from LGW. Not good!

To be fair to TOM though, they were supposed to have their 787's by now so they can't be entirely blamed for the state of their ageing 767 fleet. (Just a quick one - The First Choice 767's are due to get an interior re-fit, with the TOM interior).

On what basis are you making this assumption?

And to set the record straight, a 757 has also left LGW before this incident on a flight to SFB this winter.


25 danfearn77 : Over the winter TOM have indeed had some bad delays concering their 767's. For one, I think it's JL (might be wrong, Daleaholic will know) seems to h
26 flygirl747 : I pity the poor flight student who shot the video of the bird strike. No wonder the reporter said he wouldn't give his name. But, the airport will fin
27 destinations : Does anyone know where G-OOBM is, it hasnt flown since 9th April? this would be contributing to the problem. Also noticed G-OBYG hasnt flown since ear
28 danfearn77 : I know TOM had an all economy class 767 based at MAN last year, mainly mopping up the Palma runs etc. But as far as I'm aware this aircraft won't be b
29 destinations : As far as i am aware G-OBYI and G-OBYJ have gone to TUI FLY. Not sure about YH/YF and then theres the above problem of YG and BM
30 Post contains images planesailing : Bad delays as many as any of the other airlines have. It is swings and roundabouts. The 76 delays show up much more than a 75 or 73 delay due to the
31 Daleaholic : It's not an 'assumption'. I work with these aircraft on a daily basis and have had my fair share of delays, courtesy of the Thomson long haul fleet.
32 planesailing : I work with them too. Well that isn't the same across the bases. Down South, the only aircraft changes we have had are aircraft being rescheduled, es
33 danfearn77 : thanks for the info. TOM certainly struggle when a 767 goes tech. Funny I mentioned about JLO earlier, well today I watched it push off stand at MAN,
34 destinations : What actually happened to LO today, flightaware has it down as stopping in Halifax, Canada about 1 hour ago, did they replace with a 752?
35 planesailing : Oh I forget AN was the aircraft that diverted into Bermuda on its way back from La Romana last Monday!!
36 Daleaholic : I think it's fair to say TOM's 787's can't come soon enough!
37 LGWflyer : I agree 100%! The 787 looks on track at the moment for 2012 so for TOM sake I hope they get em. Anyway I want to see 787's in the UK!!!
38 LGWflyer : The LGW-SFB route is a mess at the moment after the bird strike. Tonight's flight TOM047 is nearly 8 hours delayed.
39 destinations : Not wishing to put more of a downer on things but LO is now stuck in CUN i believe.
40 LGWflyer : Not good news!
41 Post contains images Daleaholic : GOBYE returned to stand here at MAN today while taxiing out for departure to PUJ.
42 danfearn77 : beat me to it!! What was wrong? Couldn't have been anything too bad it departed about 20-30 mins later. Seriously not a good week for TOM and their 7
43 planesailing : Serious? It is meant to be at LGW to operate a BGI at 0120L which was delayed from this morning!
44 destinations : Left 30 Mins ago. It would seem BM has gone back to GSO however it already had winglets so i wonder what is is doing there
45 planesailing : Scheduled maintenance. A number position out to GSO all the time.
46 destinations : Possibility of coming back with Navy interior, there is a chance surely?
47 Daleaholic : Definitely a chance as the FCA 767s are due to be refitted with the TOM interior... We'll wait with baited breath!
48 destinations : The good news is AN is back in Luton
49 Post contains links davies2911 : This is my first post so apologies, but not sure if this question should have gone into a new thread or not? Following this thread i note with interes
50 destinations : Not a stupid question. In terms of BK/BL/BM/LA/LO they would need to remain in 2-3-2 (258 seats) whatever happens however maybe with Navy leather. AN
51 aidoair : Yes the ex-TOM type exit layout on the 767s (plus ex-FCA G-OOAN) allow for a higher seating capacity than the ex-FCA 767s, also they have a strengthe
52 destinations : BM is on her way back from KGSO today to MAN so hopefully we may see what is happening with interior.
53 Post contains links unattendedbag : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/T...3/history/20110420/2210Z/KSFB/EGKK
54 planesailing : Was due to position to LGW to operate 66 to POP, but they did an aircraft change. Was the aircraft swap with AN for the POP. Went tech in MAN last I
55 destinations : Yes noticed this i believe its operating the 188 to MLE from MAN.
56 planesailing : I presume BM got down to LGW ok, it is showing as last call now.
57 destinations : Well it departed anyway, trouble is i always get the feeling after 2 weeks on the ground it wont be long until a nigle comes up. Talking of niggles a
58 planesailing : YD left for CUN yesterday from LGW on the +1 flight. Previously it was tech in MAN! Are they planning to use the aircraft arriving from the 095 Holgu
59 dazbo5 : I've had it from a contact within TOM that there are no plans to change the interiors for the time being. There may have been some confusion in the r
60 Post contains images destinations : Hopefully! as with everything with the 787 its always hopefully
61 SFBdude : The birds are still out there but, I noticed they are starting to make use of the noise makers more often. From what I understand, a few days ago an A
62 Crosswind : Ouch! Original delivery was due February 2009, to allow any issues to be ironed out before a full Summer 2009 programme! Regards CROSSWIND
63 APYu : This is incorrect. They'll enter service within a few weeks of arriving, but not on the longhaul routes. They'll be used on medium and short haul rou
64 rcair1 : I watched an interesting TV show just the other night which included a segment on Border Collies doing bird patrol at some airport in South Africa. T
65 dazbo5 : I should have made it a little clearer, I was referring to long haul as replacements for the long haul 763's. Darren
66 Post contains links ThomasCook : Another incident; This time it's G-OOBM ThomasCook
67 planesarecool : Blocked the runway at Gatwick for 45 minutes. We had a few diversions down here at BOH.
68 destinations : G-OOBM was back out today though so must have not been a major problem.
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