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LHR T5... Long Narrow Walkways...  
User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8461 posts, RR: 10
Posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10845 times:
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I was trolling Google Earth and I was looking at some of the walkways leading to the jet bridges at LHR T5. Some of them look very long!

Do they have windows? Aren't they a bit claustrophobic?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/andzz/T5.jpg


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
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User currently offlinespeedmarque From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10835 times:

Hi

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User currently offlineGlom From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2821 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10739 times:

Look at LHR380's pics on the LHR news #6 thread. The jetties at T5 all come with a view. It's great that Google Earth has been updated at long last. Though of course with so much work occuring at LHR, the pics from last summer are already out of date. Unfortunately, Google Earth is not a tool to keep up to date on the works progress. Driving the off motorway route to work is.

User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10290 times:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/208260_10150157181326466_599326465_7083220_1744084_n.jpg



Here ya go,

This is pics of the jettys on the right of T5C.


User currently offlineHiJazzey From Saudi Arabia, joined Sep 2005, 872 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10070 times:

I'm sorry but these are just ridiculous. Why not have the satellite run all the way down? A raised podium construction would allow them to keep that staging area / BHS / whatever it is / on the ground floor.

User currently offlinejetblast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1231 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10067 times:

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 4):
I'm sorry but these are just ridiculous.

How is it 'ridiculous'? Is it really that different from walking in the terminal?



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4845 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9903 times:

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 4):
I'm sorry but these are just ridiculous. Why not have the satellite run all the way down? A raised podium construction would allow them to keep that staging area / BHS / whatever it is / on the ground floor.

I would think that these are cheaper than tunneling, they also mean that they are on the same level without the need for escalators and lifts (think wheelchairs etc). They also provide more flexibility (ie they can be repositioned at a later date or modified, a tunnel is fixed and hard to modify).



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9732 times:
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Thanks for the pics guys.


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11690 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9354 times:

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 4):
I'm sorry but these are just ridiculous. Why not have the satellite run all the way down?

I have to agree in thinking it's a very architecturally dissatisfying design. When I think of the money spent on T5, I find it amazing that they decided to save a few million by shortening the remote piers.


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User currently offlinecschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9045 times:

They're particularly fun if you're running to get to the plane before they close the door, having run through all of T-5 due to baggage system problems.

Looking at aerial photos, I wonder if the plan is to eventually extend the satellite buildings and replace the long jet bridges when traffic warrants it.


User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 971 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8515 times:
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Are those HSBC buildings used to separate arriving passengers, or what purpose do they serve? If the former, I assume there's also a network of equally long underground tunnels?

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11690 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8172 times:

Quoting timf (Reply 10):
Are those HSBC buildings used to separate arriving passengers, or what purpose do they serve? If the former, I assume there's also a network of equally long underground tunnels?

So far as I understand the walkways are bidirectional. The rectangular structures linking the walkway to the air bridges at each stand are in perfect line with those serving gates situated along the actual pier, hence it's possible the design has been intentionally future proofed to enable the extension of the pier building along the entire length of the stands at some point in the future. It will all be in the planning documents somewhere, but to me they look like a temporary solution.


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User currently offlineYYZAMS From Canada, joined Feb 2011, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8023 times:

Beats having to bus all the way out there like in other airports.
I am sure one day that terminal might be extended out if needed allowing for even more gates and getting rid of the long jet bridge or jet way or whatever you might call it.


User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1863 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 7373 times:
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thanks for the pics, but what's VS doing parked at T5? I can imagine someone at BA coughed up a brick when they discovered that had happened.


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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3298 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7306 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 8):

I have to agree in thinking it's a very architecturally dissatisfying design. When I think of the money spent on T5, I find it amazing that they decided to save a few million by shortening the remote piers.

They saved a few million quid. Welcome to the real world of commercial reality. Virgin et al have been parked remote at T5 since before it was opened, nothing new there.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 4987 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7278 times:

Quoting Andz (Thread starter):

It's awful my opinion but if there isn't enough demand to justify the concourse being built to its full extent why invest money in the project now when it could be better spent on other improvements to the airport...
Personally I prefer a bus transfer to my aircraft, I love getting high on the aviation fumes 

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User currently offlinefbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3713 posts, RR: 28
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7221 times:

Quoting timf (Reply 10):

Are those HSBC buildings used to separate arriving passengers, or what purpose do they serve? If the former, I assume there's also a network of equally long underground tunnels?

The jetbridges and arrivals are on the same level in the satellites. From departures you drop down one level after going through the gate to enter the jetbridge. The doors at the end of the jetbridge are closed when the jetbridge is handling arriving passengers to prevent arrivals and departures intermingling.



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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6352 times:

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 13):
thanks for the pics, but what's VS doing parked at T5? I can imagine someone at BA coughed up a brick when they discovered that had happened.

As T5C is not operational at the moment, it is used for parking stands for T3 flights that don't need to be at a gate, AA VS QF AC and Ethiopian have used those stands. No reason for "Cough up a brick" as you put it.


User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6298 times:

Quoting timf (Reply 10):
Are those HSBC buildings used to separate arriving passengers, or what purpose do they serve? If the former, I assume there's also a network of equally long underground tunnels?

Its got a office for the TRM in the bottom of it, and a lift to take anything that needs to be put in the hold. Outsize hand-baggage, buggy's, wheelchairs etc.


User currently offlinejust7four7 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2009, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 6020 times:

Here what it is: Airport Authorities just have different philosophies.

BAA's the most aggressive, like it or not: Save cost and bridge aircraft as far away possible to make most efficient use of a minimum-area concourse/satellite. A lower level of service to passengers, with gate lounge far away and a long tunnel-like walk to aircraft.

Other airports: Strike a balance between cost (extent of concourse/satellite) and length of bridge to last gated aircraft position. A higher level of service to passengers, where gate areas with seating/waiting is never too far away.

To be mentioned: Air-conditioning makes long, narrow (and glazed) bridges more costly, in hotter climates. Not an issue in LHR.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11690 posts, RR: 60
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5952 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 14):
They saved a few million quid. Welcome to the real world of commercial reality.

Indeed, I know it well unfortunately. Still disappointing though...



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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5860 times:

Quoting just7four7 (Reply 22):
A lower level of service to passengers, with gate lounge far away and a long tunnel-like walk to aircraft.

Gate lounges are not far away though. They are right next to the gates. You get your boarding pass scanned go down the escalator and your on the jetty. The longest one only takes a few minutes to walk down as well. I don't see a lower level of service at all in the set up. There is more space on the apron level for transport and baggage trolleys to move around without the building being in the way, and its using the space wisely, because as we ALL know, LHR is packed and needs to expand.


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2972 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5907 times:

It is actually not that bad, my flight BA 287 to SFO last month was at one of these bridges, quite a hoof, but, it goes faster than you think. At least there are rarely queues in front of the aircraft. The only issue is when you arrive at one of these gates after a long flight and really don't want to walk so much when you're so groggy/drunk


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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5200 times:

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 28):
A good 5 minutes or more, with the elderly and those with children holding up the pace.

That would be the reason why a announcement is made giving people with reduced mobility or children or other needs allowing them to board first giving them time to make there way to the gate.

Its been working well in T5B since it opened, T5C, is no different.


User currently offlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5204 times:

If the buildings were longer and the piers shorter it would still be the same distance to walk the gate, you just walk further in the building than the pier......

25 Cricket : The point being that one can sit in the building. As I said, it isn't so bad as a passenger when boarding (twice over I've had looooong walks) but ca
26 Bongodog1964 : It appears that the reason for the long airbridges is to give space for the access roads to the service tunnels.
27 rtfm : You can still sit in the building....What's the difference? A short walk, sit, then a long walk to the gate. Or a long walk, sit then a short walk to
28 TimRees : You generally have to be quite fit at most airports - the walks these days are very long! LHR does have some long walks, but having recently transited
29 Cricket : Very fit, just try DEL T3 if you get one of the far-off gates, which always seem to happen to me on domestic flights. Nothing beats AMS in terms of i
30 worldliner : On my first trip to T5 we parked at one of the stands with the long walkways, and it seemed to go on forever but was never claustrophobic, alot of peo
31 CXfirst : Well, for one, if the building extended further, there would be more space in the building, and therefore more space for seats, which equals more com
32 GolfBravoRomeo : In the arial view, on the lower right are 2 gates with 3 jet ways. Are those A380 gates?
33 LHR27C : Correct.
34 LHRBlueskies : Actually, under new management, there are fewer shops across LHR then previously planned, all part of the desire to improve passenger focus and comfo
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