B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2767 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3639 times:
I was looking out the window at the hangar and was amazed at how...odd...the clouds looked. They were literally blowing in off of Jamaica bay at about 50ft AGL (some lower) right over the airport. I watched one go over a blast fence and the fog/low cloud (whatever you want to call this) made a slight vortex on the other side of the blast fence. I couldn't stop looking out the window for like 20 minutes, it is truly an odd sight to see right now.
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B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2767 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3061 times:
Just as a follow-up, when I pulled in at work today (~10am), there was another looooooooooong line for departure (departing rwy 22R). Last night we had really nasy fog, some portions of my commute home were down to about 1/10 of a mile visibility or less, and the clouds were still hanging REALLY low this morning. Hopefully that storm system expected to move through on Thursday will get this soupy weather out of here!!!
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jj8080 From Brazil, joined Aug 2008, 932 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2772 times:
I was on AA951 (JFK-GRU) last night, and yes, we got late due to the fog.
Scheduled to depart at 21h40, we only left gate at around 10h35. Couldn't identify which runway we used, however we were number 15 on the line when we got to it. Ended up departing 23h20. While waiting at the lounge, noticed many other AA flights were delayed also, LHR, BCN, FCO, etc...
runner13 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2181 times:
Hats off to all the controllers in the NY area. They do a hell of a job, and I still think that JFK ground control is probably the hardest and most complex in the world.
apodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3635 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1614 times:
Why does JFK not use Gate Hold or metering procedures? To me this seems like it would help solve a lot of the Long On Board problems that led the Fed's to take action.
B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2767 posts, RR: 7 Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1603 times:
Quoting apodino (Reply 7): Why does JFK not use Gate Hold or metering procedures? To me this seems like it would help solve a lot of the Long On Board problems that led the Fed's to take action.
They do.
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B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2767 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1495 times:
He posted it on Tuesday when there was more-or-less just fog, today we have the storm hitting along with the fog. Gate holds are used at JFK to help minimize the taxi-out time.
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contrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1358 times:
I had a gate hold of almost a hour and a half. Then we pushed to find out our next flight got diverted. Yeah, it was one of those days, especially on the ramp dealing with the weather. Had to tow two planes in due to visabitly and you know if you have to tow a plane in, its bad. 9 years on the ramp and never have I delt with the conditions of today. 30mph sustained wind with visabilty down to almost zero. Yeah, that bad. Two grounds stops with planes having go arounds like it was going out of style.
contrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1302 times:
I saw that out the window here at the hangar and was like "should I be getting everyone to huddle into a stairwell or something???" LOL!!! It was a small and fast moving storm, but it packed a heck of a punch!
But, on a happier note, visibility has increased by leaps and bounds since that thing moved through!!!
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