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User currently offlineTomFoolery From Austria, joined Jan 2004, 529 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3160 times:

I fly into and out of MUC on a regular basis, and have noticed that there seems to be a South African Airways aircraft that spends a lot of time there. In the mornings, afternoons and evenings. Whats up with the schedule? It seems that this aircraft spends alot of time on the ground. Is this normal?


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25652 posts, RR: 22
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Quoting TomFoolery (Thread starter):
I fly into and out of MUC on a regular basis, and have noticed that there seems to be a South African Airways aircraft that spends a lot of time there. In the mornings, afternoons and evenings. Whats up with the schedule? It seems that this aircraft spends alot of time on the ground. Is this normal?

Very normal. Most passengers, especially those flying on business, don't like daytime flights on longhaul north-south routes as it wastes a lot of their valuable time, so many airlines leave the aircraft parked at the destination during the day and depart at night, arriving in the morning. Almost without exception, on routes with both daytime and overnight flights, the overnight flights generate the highest yield.

On east-west routes you often don't have any option but to operate during the day on westbound flights due to the way time zones and airport curfews etc. work. A red-eye flight from Europe to North America, for example, would arrive in the middle of the night.

[Edited 2011-04-27 11:37:55]

[Edited 2011-04-27 11:42:31]

User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Quoting TomFoolery (Thread starter):
Is this normal?

SA do it at LHR, FRA, MUC at the least.

Here are FRA the Air Namibia and QF also stand about all day waiting for their return flight...



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User currently offlinejetblast From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1231 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 2):
SA do it at LHR, FRA, MUC at the least.

Here at IAD as well.



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User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2531 times:
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Quoting TomFoolery (Thread starter):
Whats up with the schedule?

SA264 JNB-MUC dep 2050 arr 0720+1
SA265 MUC-JNB dep 2155 arr 0820+1

The flights operate daily.



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User currently offlineTomFoolery From Austria, joined Jan 2004, 529 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

Thanks for the insight, folks!


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User currently offlineSASMD82 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 781 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1970 times:
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Isn't flying in the night more expensive than flying during the day? Cabin crew gets paid with the night fee.

User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Quoting TomFoolery (Reply 5):
Thanks for the insight, folks!

Also means that some maintenance can be done too, while these aircraft are planned to be on the ground... So the ground time is not all wasted.

In JNB many of the european flights have day stops and return during the night to europe...



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User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 737 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

Does anyone know if it Is the same crew that is used on both legs since the time on the ground is significant?

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8455 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1532 times:
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Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 8):
Does anyone know if it Is the same crew that is used on both legs since the time on the ground is significant?

Not the same crew, the night stops have been reduced signficantly compared to some years ago but it is a different crew operating the inbound and outbound flights.



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