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Does Anyone Else Remember Continental West?  
User currently offlineAirCalSNA From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 364 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 6236 times:

In 1986 or so I took a flight from SJC to LAX aboard a "Continental West" 737, on which the word "West" was written in red cursive lettering after the name "Continental." I've not been able to find any picture of plans with that marking and now wonder if my memory is incorrect. Does anyone else remember Continental creating a "Continental West" product in the mid-1980's?

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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6223 times:

Quoting AirCalSNA (Thread starter):
I've not been able to find any picture of plans with that marking and now wonder if my memory is incorrect. Does anyone else remember Continental creating a "Continental West" product in the mid-1980's?

From the photo database here (Continental Airlines West is an option in the dropdown menu):


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Going off of some of the comments in the photos, this was a small niche operation between a handful of West Coast markets, similar to what UA did years later with their United Shuttle/Shuttle By United operation.


User currently offline28L28L From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6223 times:

Though I never flew on that operation. I do remember it. There were a few such "airlines within airlines" that were set up in the U.S. during that period of time - probably attempting to mirror Southwest. Another carrier had something called "Operation High Ground"! From what I recall, none of these attempts lasted more than a year.
Southwest respended with an ad that stated "Nobody does Southwest Like Southwest"
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User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5950 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6201 times:
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Quoting srbmod (Reply 1):
Going off of some of the comments in the photos, this was a small niche operation between a handful of West Coast markets, similar to what UA did years later with their United Shuttle/Shuttle By United operation.

The Continental West operation was a short-lived operation mainly through SJC. I remember seeing them from SJC's old observation deck. It was my understanding that CO had to drop the name because of a complaint from America West. CO retained the operation under just "Continental" for a while, replacing the 733's with DC-9-30's. I flew on CO's DC-9-30 on the SJC-LAX run.


User currently offlinePI767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6189 times:

Here is some advertising/promotional information for Continental West:

http://www.departedflights.com/COwest1.html

http://www.departedflights.com/COwest2.html


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6060 times:

Yes, I remember them well. One-way $39 LAX-SJC walk-up fare in Coach or $78 for First Class (two rows on the DC-9-30). There are a few threads about them here as well if you go back into the archives.


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User currently offlineflyPBA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6042 times:

Continental West was intended to compete with PSA and AirCal ... was as successful as Ted, Shuttle by United, etc ...

User currently offlinejunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 778 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5957 times:

Quoting flyPBA (Reply 6):
Continental West was intended to compete with PSA and AirCal


Correct. It was all about competing with AirCal and PSA. This was years before Southwest flew intra California routes, and they did not fly to SEA or PDX yet either.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17823 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5908 times:

Quoting PI767 (Reply 4):
Here is some advertising/promotional information for Continental West:

http://www.departedflights.com/COwest1.html

http://www.departedflights.com/COwes....html

Every time I see pricing in old ads I compare it to today's fares. $99 in 1985 buys about $205 in 2011 according to the government. $99 could buy you a one way promotional CO West fare on LAXSEA; today you can find all kinds of roundtrip fares for about $199 in the same market. The average one way fare in the market is about $140.



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User currently offlinetimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5760 times:

Next question: what was the difference between CO West and CO Lite?

User currently offlinemalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5562 times:

Quoting timz (Reply 9):

Co Lite was out of GSO, I think. and it was an East operation for CO, but was Low fare outfit within CO like West was



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User currently offlineAirCalSNA From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5496 times:

Thanks for the pics and info!

User currently offlineTUSdawg23 From United States of America, joined May 2010, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5159 times:

Quoting timz (Reply 9):

Next question: what was the difference between CO West and CO Lite?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continental_Lite Continental West used 737-300s primarily out of SJC, while Continental Lite used 737-200s and DC-9-30s primarily out of CLE and GSO.


User currently offlineflashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2903 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5147 times:
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Quoting PI767 (Reply 4):

Here is some advertising/promotional information for Continental West:

http://www.departedflights.com/COwest1.html

http://www.departedflights.com/COwes....html

Interesting that one of the ads mentions that they served "the only chocolate chip cookies baked fresh in the air". This was in 1985. Is this really true or had YX started serving their cookies at this point?


User currently offlinecschleic From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4510 times:

Quoting flyPBA (Reply 6):
was as successful as Ted, Shuttle by United, etc

...and MetroJet and Continental Lite and Frontier Horizon (anyone remember that?) and the Delta one and... Hopefully the industry has learned that airlines-within-airlines don't work. Shifting flying to the regionals seems to be more successful.


User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5950 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4246 times:
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Quoting cschleic (Reply 14):
Frontier Horizon (anyone remember that?)

I thought Frontier Horizon was a longer-haul brother to Frontier using 727-100's. Wasn't the service on Frontier Horizon the same as Frontier?


User currently offlinePI767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 15):

I thought Frontier Horizon was a longer-haul brother to Frontier using 727-100's. Wasn't the service on Frontier Horizon the same as Frontier?

From "Airliners" Magazine Jan/Feb 2002:

"Some of the unionized Frontier flight attendants picketed the new airline and charged that it was nothing more than a union-busting, concession-wrenching ploy. Frontier Horizon was a low-cost airline but not a no-frills carrier. Its 727s had 10 business-class seats and 99 in coach with a generous 33-inch seat pitch. Meals were served on china with linen tablecloths and napkins, metal silverware and glass containers."

So, my understanding has always been that Frontier Horizon did offer Frontier-quality service but was operated by non-union employees making less money and working under different work rules.

Furthermore, I recall reading that while Frontier's unions agreed to the operation, they did limit its fleet to only seven aircraft.


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