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Lufthansa B748 - First Time Airborne  
User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 8 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 20055 times:

The first Lufthansa B748 is flying:


http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...ideo-second-747-8i-returns-to.html

[Edited 2011-04-27 14:33:52]

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User currently offlineMiercat From Turkey, joined Aug 2010, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 18555 times:

is it in the LH livery yet, because I can't see any of the pics on the site


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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4409 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 18448 times:

Quoting Miercat (Reply 1):
is it in the LH livery yet, because I can't see any of the pics on the site

No, you still have to throw the egg onto it, only blue tail. A majesty compared to all those ugly twins.


User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5478 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 18450 times:

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 2):

I can't agree with ugly but I will grant you boring.



What the...?
User currently offlinePRFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 18238 times:

Here is first picture of RC021, N6067U

http://twitpic.com/4ptzxc


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 17507 times:

This plane will receive its full livery only after the end of the test phase as much as I know. Great airplane, cant wait to fly on it next year!

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 2):
No, you still have to throw the egg onto it, only blue tail. A majesty compared to all those ugly twins.

A majesty compared to all those boring twins. I wouldnt say that twins are ugly in general, but they are damn boring indeed. And the more twins there are (see 77W) the more boring they get. So: long live the 747-8 to keep airports at least a bit interesting beyond 2020.


User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 17169 times:

Does it have blended winglets?

User currently offlinenipoel123 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2011, 271 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 16880 times:

Quoting washingtonian (Reply 6):
Does it have blended winglets?

No, it has raked wingtips, like the 764 and the 777s



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User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4006 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 16616 times:
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Quoting washingtonian (Reply 6):
Does it have blended winglets?

It has raked wingtips like the 764ER and 77W have.

Nice video. And beautiful landing. Thanks for posting.



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User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 16560 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 8):
It has raked wingtips like the 764ER and 77W have.

Ahh that's what I meant to type. Thanks!


User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 859 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 14957 times:

Woow, very loud engines on the 748i

When will it EIS with LH?

//Mike   



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17148 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 14548 times:

Quoting solnabo (Reply 10):
When will it EIS with LH?

And what routes will the 748i be used on?



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User currently offlineNicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1110 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13843 times:

Quoting solnabo (Reply 10):
Woow, very loud engines on the 748i

When will it EIS with LH?

Delivery still is planned for in January / February 2012.


User currently offlinedelimit From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1513 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12969 times:

Quoting PRFlyer (Reply 4):
Here is first picture of RC021, N6067U

http://twitpic.com/4ptzxc

So nice! Thanks for posting that.


User currently offlineworldliner From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9935 times:

Cant wait to see it in full LH livery.


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User currently offlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 772 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9480 times:
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Great video and picture!

It is so nice to see more 4 engined aircraft take to the sky   

So when will LH receive their first 747-8?



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17148 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9428 times:

Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 15):
So when will LH receive their first 747-8?

Already asked and answered

Quoting NicoEDDF (Reply 12):
Delivery still is planned for in January / February 2012.



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User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1798 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9316 times:

What a beautiful aircraft. Boeing people, pat yourself on the back for a job well done. A380--sorry, you may be big but you sure are UGLY. The 747-8i is the Queen of the Skies.


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User currently offlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 772 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8988 times:
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Quoting B747forever (Reply 16):
Already asked and answered

Sorry, did not see that one   Thanks for the info.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 11):
And what routes will the 748i be used on?

My guess would be west and east coast of America as well as central and south american destinations and HKG.



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User currently offlineNZdsgnr From New Zealand, joined Jul 2008, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8936 times:

Quoting worldliner (Reply 14):
Cant wait to see it in full LH livery.

Let's be honest... it pretty much already is in full livery add the crane and the name and that's it...   


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21588 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8687 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 8):
It has raked wingtips like the 764ER and 77W have.

I think they are more "raked wingtiplets" than just simply raked tips as on the 764/77W. The curve upward a bit and have a soft sweep to them before there is an angle, a blending of the raked concept with the upturned winglet concept, to help get the vortexes off the same plane as the wing itself. The 764 and 77W are angular and flat and don't achieve this separation. 787 is more "raked wingtiplet" as well, with a sharper point.



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User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1625 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8449 times:

The twitpic caption states that this plane is being used to test interior systems including galleys. What exactly do they test with respect to the galley? Do they brew coffee, roll catering carts down the aisles, put stuff in the fridge or the ovens?

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31433 posts, RR: 85
Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8059 times:
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Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 21):
What exactly do they test with respect to the galley?

I would expect they verify that the systems that provide power and heat to things like the coffee brewers, refrigerators and ovens all work properly. Ditto with the water delivery and drainage systems.


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17148 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7696 times:

Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 18):
My guess would be west and east coast of America as well as central and south american destinations and HKG

Hopefully to LAX next summer.



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User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (3 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7650 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 17):
What a beautiful aircraft. Boeing people, pat yourself on the back for a job well done. A380--sorry, you may be big but you sure are UGLY. The 747-8i is the Queen of the Skies.

I cannot agree...
The A380 is not really pretty, but not out of proportions as the B748 is in my eyes.


The B748 design reminds me a bit of the A346:

- Too long fuselage.
- engines too big in comparison to the rest of the aircraft


The B748I, when loking from the right or left side, looks like a modern wing and engine design mixed with a 1970s design.
The APU section and vertical stab. look old fashioned and the horizontal stabilizers are too small:


http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=1024736

THIS aircraft (ANZ) has perfect proportions:

http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/show.php?id=1005885

[Edited 2011-04-28 13:11:48]

[Edited 2011-04-28 13:12:40]

25 JoeCanuck : To each his own. I seem to like the very long and the very short ones. It's the planes in the middle that don't float my boat.
26 wolbo : Still think Boeing made a mistake to invest in the B748i, it's just throwing money at yesterday's plane. But since they have done so it will be good t
27 na : Actually you are describing the 77W here, more than anything else. You judge that after a video? Come on.
28 ikramerica : The 747 engines were always too small in relation to the rest of the aircraft.
29 Post contains images Stitch : Compared to a 747-400, it's quiet. It is expected to be QC 2 on Departure (matching the A380) and QC 2 or 1 on Arrival (the A380 is QC 0.5).
30 328JET : Yes, but i think Boeing did not want to spend so much money, as they will most likely get 50 percent of the B744 replacement anyway. Boeing will get
31 Post contains links and images N14AZ : Well spoken. Even on the brand new B 747-112 the engines just looked like the engines of an ordinary B 707. View Large View MediumPhoto © Ken Rose
32 Post contains images mffoda : Do Tell... Where were you when you heard both the 747-8 and the A380 together to make such a comparison??? It would be nice for the rest of us... so
33 EK413 : Surprised no one noticed the Korean B748I in the background... Unless I am seeing things... EK413
34 BA : You are seeing things. Korean Air's first 747-8I hasn't even started being built yet. You are seeing a Korean Air Cargo 747-8F in the background in t
35 FX1816 : Believe me that video doesn't do the aircraft justice, we have one of the 748F's here at EDW and you can hardly hear them at all. FX1816
36 Post contains images CXB77L : Interesting to note that you used the 77W as an example rather than the A330, given that there are a lot more A330s than there are 77Ws in service. T
37 arffguy : I agree. Boeing 501 has been flying between our two airports lately. I think it is really quiet. It's good to hear the sound of a four engine plane a
38 Post contains images Gunsontheroof : 1) Disappointing?!? If there's one thing I can't stand about the new generation of airliners, it's how damn quiet they are! Sure, I understand why, b
39 EK413 : Cheers... When are the KE aircraft scheduled to be delivered...? EK413
40 hal9213 : For the 772 and 773 that is. The 77L and 77W have new wings, which also have that huge wingtip flex you are talking about. Best seen at rotation, whe
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