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ABQ Sunport Update  
User currently offlineglbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 699 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 3 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Was pleasantly surprised to see that Google Earth has updated the imagery for the ABQ Sunport. Interesting items to note:

- Shows the completed ramp replacement
- Two new jetways nearing completion at east end of terminal
- North end of 17/35 shortened, presumably to make it unusable for transport aircraft
- Taxiway to the east of 17/35 (nearest Kirtland AFB) is closed
- Aircraft on various taxiways
- Looks like Rendition Air parked over by the GA complex

And then just to the south of the airport, you can see Albuquerque Studios, Mesa del Sol Pavillion (amphitheater) and associated development.

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User currently offlineglbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 699 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

Oh - and all the new photovoltaic arrays on the parking deck.

User currently offlineteneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2924 times:

Speaking of ABQ does anyone know where I can find images of how the terminal looked in late 60's to early 80's before they built he footbridge to the current concourse and when the c gates were still in use?

User currently onlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4037 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

I always did like ABQ. Small, but nice. HP used to do the majority of ramp training there. A very fun week as I remember.

User currently offlineglbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 699 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

Quoting teneriffe77 (Reply 2):
Speaking of ABQ does anyone know where I can find images of how the terminal looked in late 60's to early 80's before they built he footbridge to the current concourse and when the c gates were still in use?

This link has been posted before. It's from 1965 just before Terminal C was built. http://www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/fl...k-fridays-30-years-ago-albuquerque

Could have sworn someone posted links to photos of Terminal C in the past, but I can't find them.


User currently offlineB727LVR From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

Quoting glbltrvlr (Thread starter):
North end of 17/35 shortened, presumably to make it unusable for transport aircraft

I would love to be able to use 17/35 agin. It would bring back a lot of memories! Although I imagine if it was ever used again for transport acft, it would be a south departure only. I have seen New Mexico Airlines use it for take off, but they use a Caravan.

Quoting glbltrvlr (Thread starter):
Mesa del Sol Pavillion (amphitheater)

Its now called " Hard Rock Casino Albuquerque Presents The Pavilion." Dont worry I think the majority of us here said the same thing you just said.      



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User currently offlineeclipseflight7 From Somalia, joined Apr 2004, 518 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

It's been the intention to get rid of 17/35 for a while now, against some mild resistance. I believe it is currently unswept, unmaintained, and used for occasional parking. I believe the master plan called for its removal pending the extension of the terminal 25 years into the future. I did an intersection departure from 35 before in a Cirrus, and buzzing the golf course was pretty fun. I'm glad I had the opportunity as only C130's use it for night training anymore.

The extension to A is paid for, but the gate space will probably go unused, considering Southwest is the exclusive user of it and, with the continued relaxation of the Wright, Southwest will probably be more interested in bypassing ABQ on its Texas-West Coast flights. Continental consolidated its operations into 1 gate within the past few years, and airlines are looking to lose gates, not add them.

If you're talking about the DC-9 and the Gulfstream on the Northeast quadrant of the airport, I believe those are Department of Energy aircraft.



Holy sh*ts and burritos.
User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2072 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

The most important question: when will the observation deck reopen and will they still have couches up there?!?! I'm sick of trying to sleep in those chairs downstairs. It's very loud down there.

Quoting eclipseflight7 (Reply 6):
It's been the intention to get rid of 17/35 for a while now, against some mild resistance.

Why do they want to get rid of it? NIMBYs in the neighborhood to the north? I can't imagine anyone south of there is complaining....except maybe the coyotes that live in the desert.


User currently offlineunmlobo From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 204 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 15 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

I remember a flight a few years back when we landed on 35 and came to a quick halt before we missed the turnoff to taxi into the A gates, that was a very interesting landing.


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User currently offlineglbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 699 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

Quoting eclipseflight7 (Reply 6):

If you're talking about the DC-9 and the Gulfstream on the Northeast quadrant of the airport, I believe those are Department of Energy aircraft.

The US Marshalls bring in a DC-9 on a regular basis over by Cutter Aviation - but I can't tell who owns the one that shows up in Google Earth.

Quoting chrisair (Reply 7):
Why do they want to get rid of it? NIMBYs in the neighborhood to the north? I can't imagine anyone south of there is complaining....except maybe the coyotes that live in the desert.

There's a recent thread in the archives that discusses this. The airport master plan does call for removal of the runway, at the instigation of the people who live north of the airport. The city is working on an EIS, but the USAF has already said they can do night vision takeoff training elsewhere.


User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2856 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2037 times:

Any idea if Volaris is checking out ABQ? I have no idea what kind of ties there are between New Mexico and Old Mexico (haha) but I do remember a recent F9 attempt at ABQ-PVR. Given that NM is a border state with a strong Spanish/Mexican history, I imagine the links must be there. If Y4 sees reason to serve little FAT, I can only seem to think that ABQ-GDL would do well. On the ABQ end, the airline could tie into the major WN operation. On the GDL end, tourists could connect onwards to PVR and other popular Mexican resorts. Your thoughts?


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User currently offlineeclipseflight7 From Somalia, joined Apr 2004, 518 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

17/35 serves no real purpose. The current system of 3 for arrivals and 8 for departures works well, doesn't intersect, and means one less very expensive runway to maintain.


Holy sh*ts and burritos.
User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2747 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 10):
Any idea if Volaris is checking out ABQ? I have no idea what kind of ties there are between New Mexico and Old Mexico (haha) but I do remember a recent F9 attempt at ABQ-PVR. Given that NM is a border state with a strong Spanish/Mexican history, I imagine the links must be there. If Y4 sees reason to serve little FAT, I can only seem to think that ABQ-GDL would do well. On the ABQ end, the airline could tie into the major WN operation. On the GDL end, tourists could connect onwards to PVR and other popular Mexican resorts. Your thoughts?

ABQ-PVR was an attempt to draw beachgoers from Albuquerque and surrounding areas, but had the unfortunate timing of starting up right into the last oil spike.

ABQ does have cultural ties to Mexico, but they don't have nearly the VFR traffic to Mexico that Fresno does. FAT has huge numbers of first and second generation Americans working in agriculture throughout the central valley and a great many of them are from the area around GDL. They want to see their family on the other side of the border.

The cultural ties for ABQ and New Mexico in general are much closer to the northern Mexican state of Chihuahua. However, the family ties tend to be much weaker because many of the hispanic families in New Mexico have been settled in the state for several generations, often well before it became a state in 1912.

Honestly, the best route from ABQ would likely be a non-stop to MEX. As of five or six years ago it was the largest Mexican O&D city from ABQ, higher than GDL, CUU, and any of the beach resorts.



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User currently offlineglbltrvlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 699 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

Upon further review, I think the displaced threshold for Rwy 17 has been there for a while. If it weren't displaced, aircraft landing could disrupt crossing auto traffic on Gibson - a very busy street. Still believe that the city will be closing 17/35 in the coming months though.

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