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Nigeria Aviation Thread: Part 15  
User currently offlinessublyme From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 517 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 29724 times:

Welcome the 14th thread for all issues relating to aviation in Nigeria !

The archives contain Parts 1 - 14.


Airlines currently active in Nigeria:

Aero Contractors - http://www.flyaero.com
Air Midwest - http://www.airmidwestng.com (Launch canceled)
Allied Airlines - http://www.alliedaircargo.com
Arik Air - http://www.arikair.com (Largest commercial airline in Nigeria)
Associated Airlines - http://www.flyassociated.com
Bellview Airlines - http://www.flybellviewair.com - (May relaunch as First Nation Airways)
Capital Airlines - http://www.capitalairnigeria.com
Chanchangi Airlines - http://www.chanchangi.com (Suspended all operations)
Dana Air - http://www.flydanaair.com
First Nation Airways - http://www.flyfirstnation.com (Planned )
IRS Airlines - http://www.flyirsairlines.com
Kabo Air - http://www.kaboair.com (Plans relaunch of domestic flights shortly).
Nigerian Eagle Airlines - http://www.myairnigeria.com - (Now Air Nigeria)
Overland Airways - http://www.overland.aero

Thread 14 has been archived.

One of the ails of doing business in Nigeria. Major airlines reported loosing N1.5b ($100m) over the forced closure due to elections. Arik reportedly lost as much as N269 on Apr 2 closure of nations borders, Aero N119, Air Nigeria N112.

http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/...rian-airlines-losses-to-over-n15bn

Arik Air loses A330-200
http://nigerianaviation.wordpress.com/

First Nation Airways should it operate to Europe might have it's plane(s) impounded due to debts incurred from it's predecessor Belleview.
http://odili.net/news/source/2011/may/1/323.html

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User currently offlinedkny From Ethiopia, joined Mar 2004, 714 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 29706 times:

Ethiopian is still not allowed to use the 77L into LOS. It's a bit weird because EK uses the 77W and a 343 into LOS. Delta was threatned cancelation of rights into LOS unless it flew the 777 but when ET wants to use it they are denied. I wounder what's really behind it!!

User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 29478 times:
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Quoting dkny (Reply 1):
Ethiopian is still not allowed to use the 77L into LOS.

The issue with ET and it's 77L into LOS has to do with ET's creation of Asky Airlines which is ET except in name as well as the high frequency it has already been granted into Nigeria. ET flies a B762 to LOS and a B752/738 to ABV. KQ flies combinations of B762/B737s to both LOS and ABV. Delta, EK, BA, LH etc are intercontinental carriers and are allowed larger aircraft. ET is viewed as a continental carrier. Nigeria DOES not want any one African airliner dominating it's skies or it's immediate neighborhood - West Africa especially as its own airliners build up capacity in order to compete head on with the likes of ET, KQ and SAA. I hope this answers the question you have been posing for a while now!

Thanks Ssublyme for restarting the thread. I was in Nigeria to witness part of the historic elections that will hopefully pave the way for an exponential growth of the Nigerian economy.

First Nation Airways is going through a very rigorous certification process before it can begin service. This is not going to be a cake walk as the Nigerian NCAA jealously guards the CAT 1 status it won for Nigeria. First Nation also has to deal with the very large debt left behind by its predecessor Bellview Airlines. This is a very thorny and contentious issue.
First Nations three A320s, 5N-FNA, 5N-FNB and 5N-FNC are parked at the General Aviation Area. I was able to get some close up shots of them. They have been uploaded and are awaiting screening.
Ken Iwelumo.



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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 29355 times:
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Arik Air is to suspend its service to Calabar from May 7 to July 7, 2011. All flights to Calabar will be switched to Uyo. This follows the decision of FAAN to close Calabar Airport during that period. FAAN plans to carry out repair work on the main runway at Calabar.

http://www.leadershipeditors.com/ns/...&catid=16:headline-news&Itemid=143



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User currently offlinessublyme From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 517 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 29299 times:

This, among many other reasons is why airlines struggle so much in Nigeria. It would be a chore planning out 6 months in advance even.

Meanwhile Arik has also posted on their facebook page "Houston NONSTOP to Lagos ✈✈✈✈✈ Coming Soon...."


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2171 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 29246 times:

Quoting ssublyme (Reply 4):
Meanwhile Arik has also posted on their facebook page "Houston NONSTOP to Lagos ✈✈✈✈✈ Coming Soon...."

Are their JFK flights doing better? I thought I heard they were empty. Why would HOU be better?


User currently offlineBRJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 29229 times:

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 2):
ET flies a B762 to LOS and a B752/738 to ABV.

Do they still have the 762 in their fleet? I thought it was only 763s now.


User currently offlinessublyme From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 517 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 29173 times:

Largest Nigerian population in the U.S
Oil and oil related traffic.

Quoting AF022 (Reply 5):
Why would HOU be better?


User currently offlinessublyme From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 517 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 29161 times:

Lagos State will spend N102b ($650m) to build Lekki International Airport. The airport is expected to commend operations in 4th quarter 2012 and handle 5m passengers annually. By comparison LOS handled 5.6m passengers 2009.

How do you see traffic being split between the two airports? Would some international airlines switch over from MMIA to LIA? How about domestic? Arik is the only airline I could see potentially serving both airports.

http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/...2bn-on-lekki-international-airport


User currently offlinedkny From Ethiopia, joined Mar 2004, 714 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 29096 times:

Quoting BRJ (Reply 6):
Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 2):
ET flies a B762 to LOS and a B752/738 to ABV.

Do they still have the 762 in their fleet? I thought it was only 763s now.

They don't have the 762's anymore only the 763


User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 29041 times:
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Quoting BRJ (Reply 6):
Do they still have the 762 in their fleet? I thought it was only 763s now.
Quoting dkny (Reply 9):
They don't have the 762's anymore only the 763

Sorry that was a typo. I meant to write B763.



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User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 28998 times:

Quoting dkny (Reply 1):
I wounder what's really behind it!!

The Nigerian airlines are strongly lobbying against more access for foreign airlines to the Nigerian market (a sentiment sometimes also aired by politicians for popular reasons). I think the real losers here are the customers as they have less options to choose from and no Nigerian airline can meet the connections/services offered by foreign carriers. Asky could build a strong regional network within months to feed ET's international operations, while Arik Air, after a five years, just has a few regional flights a day with no attractive onward connections. Arik also failed to secure any interline agreements as Air Nigeria did. All in all, Arik Air is strongly under-performing - especially in the light of the expectations the owners raised - because of mismanagement. It will be interesting to see which airline the new government will favour. The owner of Air Nigeria has given a lot of support to the president-elect.

Arik Air indeed secured approval to commence flights to Houston, but I doubt a LOS-JFK-IAH-LOS routing will make any difference. Hopefully, they will be able to retain the A345s after loosing the A332. Air Nigeria decided that it will start long-haul operations soon (to US, UK and SA). Apparently, the airline will lease three A340s. FirstNation Airways has the intention to return to South Africa and the UK too, but I don't see that happening soon. Even if the airline secures an AOC, it will still have to settle the old Bellview bills before being able to operate to Europe or South Africa.

Quoting ssublyme (Reply 8):
Lagos State will spend N102b ($650m) to build Lekki International Airport.

A waste of money. It's unfortunate that all the governors are spilling tax payers' money on building economically unviable state airports.

These are the only Nigerian airlines with scheduled operations:

Aero Contractors - http://www.flyaero.com
Air Nigeria - http://www.myairnigeria.com
Arik Air - http://www.arikair.com
Associated Airlines - No website
Chanchangi Airlines - http://www.flychanchangiair.com
Dana Air - http://www.flydanaair.com
FirstNation Airways - http://www.flyfirstnation.com (Planned)
IRS Airlines - http://www.flyirsairlines.com
Overland Airways - http://www.overland.aero

[Edited 2011-05-07 05:13:44]

User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 28870 times:
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Does anyone know the author of the authoritative "Aviation In Nigeria Blog" and why he stopped blogging?


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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 28684 times:
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In preparation of ICAO's audit of Nigerian Airfields later this month, the Nigerian Minister of Aviation, Mrs Fidelia Njeze has announced that FAAN has completed the perimeter fencing of Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport at Abuja.

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/201...s-%C2%A0abuja-perimeter-fence.html



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User currently offlinefemialpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 28554 times:

Sounds like another F7 was lost today. This is not looking good. While the F7 is not the best of aircraft out there losing 2 in such a short time span is worrisome. Makes me wonder if they rushed NAF pilots into fully owning this.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/05/a...ce-fighter-plane-crashes-in-gboko/


User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 738 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 28472 times:

Quoting ENU (Reply 11):
The Nigerian airlines are strongly lobbying against more access for foreign airlines to the Nigerian market (a sentiment sometimes also aired by politicians for popular reasons). I think the real losers here are the customers as they have less options to choose from and no Nigerian airline can meet the connections/services offered by foreign carriers. Asky could build a strong regional network within months to feed ET's international operations, while Arik Air, after a five years, just has a few regional flights a day with no attractive onward connections. Arik also failed to secure any interline agreements as Air Nigeria did. All in all, Arik Air is strongly under-performing - especially in the light of the expectations the owners raised - because of mismanagement. It will be interesting to see which airline the new government will favour. The owner of Air Nigeria has given a lot of support to the president-elect.

What is ET's involvement with Air Nigeria? Just technical/management assistance, is that correct? I feel that ET was hedging its bet with the ASKY investment as it tried, really for a couple of decades, to get a more prominent presence in Nigeria. You are right, consumers lose but this is not a new problem. I hope Arik and Air Nigeria (and others) can become successful as the market is probably big enough to sustain those and foreign carriers.


User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 28459 times:
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Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 15):
I hope Arik and Air Nigeria (and others) can become successful as the market is probably big enough to sustain those and foreign carriers.

        



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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 28346 times:
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The Director General of Nigeria's Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) today revealed a comprehensive restructuring plan to ensure that Nigeria is in compliant and maintains its hard won category one status. Read on........

http://allafrica.com/stories/201105130771.html



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User currently offlinessublyme From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 517 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 28232 times:

Nigeria signs bilateral agreement with Jamaica. Is there any commercially viable demand for air travel between Nigeria & Jamaica? I'd be suprised to see any ailines jump on this opportunity, however ambassador of Nigeria to Jamaica hopes so.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...-and-Jamaica-now-a-reality_8793232


User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 28140 times:
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Quoting ssublyme (Reply 18):
Nigeria signs bilateral agreement with Jamaica

There is a large West Indian community in Lagos, mostly women married to Nigerians. I doubt this would lead to a viable VFR traffic or tourism in the form of Jamaicans visiting the land of their ancestors. Nigerians for their part are renown shopping tourists and not the sandy beach version. Brazil as in the Carnival, Dominican Republic and Colombia have caught the attention of adventurous Nigerians, way ahead of Jamaica, I guess hope is eternal!



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User currently offlineMandingoBoy From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 28076 times:

I support the move by the NCAA on this issue....
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index...id=31:business&Itemid=562#comments

THE Nigerian Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) may have suspended two pilots of Arik Air, for flying a Boeing 737-700NG aircraft with one functional engine from Owerri to Lagos, at the weekend.

According to reports, the aircraft was flown to Lagos, where it had an emergency landing, after one of the engines had been damaged by birds.

The two pilots had their licences suspended by the aviation authority for security negligence, as they ought to have made an emergency landing at a nearby airport or return to base after the bird strike, which damaged one of the engines shortly after take-off.

“I can tell you authoritatively that NCAA has suspended the licences of the flight crew that flew that plane from Owerri to Lagos on Sunday. Their licences will remain suspended until investigation is concluded.

“The crew that flew that plane to Lagos later flew one of the airline’s plane to London that night for their United Kingdom operation. NCAA insisted that the crew (pilots) should not be allowed to fly the plane back to Nigeria. They have been summoned to NCAA headquarters,” said our authoritative source.

The sources revealed that NCAA had summoned Arik’s flight operations team led by the former Managing Director of the Nigerian Airspace Management Agency, Captain Ado Sanusi, to its headquarters for a series of questioning over the matter in the last three days.

The Arik Air’s Boeing 737-700 plane had made an emergency landing at the Murtala Muhammed Airport, Lagos on Sunday after suffering a bird strike en route Owerri. The aircraft, touched down safely with no injuries to the 69 passengers on board, according to a statement by the carrier.

The airline confirmed the incident in a press statement, where it said the pilot managed to fly the aircraft to Lagos, having shut down one of the plane’s engine damaged by the bird strike.

But the pilots’ decision had attracted criticism from industry experts, who said that their decision to fly the plane with only one engine from Owerri to Lagos put the 69 passengers’ in jeopardy.

The statement issued by Arik after the incident said: “Arik Air Boeing 737-700 New Generation aircraft operating flight W3 596 from Owerri to Lagos this morning had a bird strike on Engine 2 shortly after takeoff from Sam Mbakwe Airport, Owerri.

“This became apparent during the flight and necessitated the shutdown of Engine 2 by the flight commander who piloted the aircraft to Lagos and then declared an emergency landing at the Murtala Muhammed Airport, Ikeja. The aircraft landed safely with no injury to the 69 passengers on board.”

The airline’s Managing Director, Mr. Chris Ndulue, however, praised the crew for displaying a high level of professionalism.


User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 27934 times:
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Quoting MandingoBoy (Reply 20):
I support the move by the NCAA on this issue....

This is clearly necessary to stop this action from becoming a precedent. Imagine if Chanchangi or IRS pilots tried this with their aged aircraft? I doubt that the Arik Air aircraft, crew or passengers were in any danger. This is not the first time this is happening worldwide. There are no maintenance facilities at Sam Mbakwe Airport and it would have been very expensive and time consuming to fix the engine there.



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User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 5 days ago) and read 27889 times:
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The CEO of Nigeria Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) has attempted to squash rumors in an interview with Leadership newspapers that the Federal Government of Nigeria is planning to invest in Arik Air and make it a National Airline. read on .....

http://allafrica.com/stories/201105180349.html



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User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 27857 times:

Quoting Alibo5NGN (Reply 22):
The CEO of Nigeria Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) has attempted to squash rumors in an interview with Leadership newspapers that the Federal Government of Nigeria is planning to invest in Arik Air and make it a National Airline.



Presumably, he doesn't know all what is going on between Arik Air and the FG. The FG has already decided to give a N4.5billion lifeline to the airline.

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art20110518244818

Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 15):
What is ET's involvement with Air Nigeria?



None. Except that they have a code-share agreement.

It would be good to see a strong Nigerian airline, but with the current owners/managers I no longer think it's going to be Arik Air.

According to a report on Nigeria's booming private jet market there are no 70 private aircraft in the country. Pastor Oyedepo, for instance, recently acquired his fourth aircraft, a GV. As long as his church members are paying their tithes... The report on Arthur Eze is wrong. He acquired a GIV (5N-PZE), but it is not a former PAF aircraft, but ex-G-EVLN.

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201105163222837
http://www.ainonline.com/news/single...e-jets-names-two-executives-29644/
http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201104053322462
http://punchng.com/Articl.aspx?datex...?datex&theartic=Art201104141282651


User currently offlineAlibo5NGN From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 27709 times:
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Quoting ENU (Reply 23):
It would be good to see a strong Nigerian airline, but with the current owners/managers I no longer think it's going to be Arik Air.

For now Arik Air is the best you are going to find in West and Central Africa sub region. Air Nigeria appears to be a lot worse.
http://www.independentngonline.com/D...yIndependent/Article.aspx?id=34073

And Aero is still trying to recover from the ending of the cozy financing relationship it once enjoyed with Oceanic Bank.

I took a look at Asky's network which has very few direct flights. Any one know if they are profitable or are they bleeding financially? 18 destinations in two years is a lot!



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25 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : According to Daily Independent Newspaper of Nigeria, Nigerian Business Moguls acquired at least six private jets over the last 12 months at an estimat
26 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Embraer has appointed the Barbedos Group based at Kaduna Airport, Nigeria as its executive jets authorized sales representative (ASR) for West Africa.
27 Post contains links ssublyme : Sahara reporters is reporting a small aircraft belonging to a UK based oil consultancy firm crashed shortly before landing at Kaduna airport. http://w
28 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : May their souls rest in peace. It is sad that according to eye witnesses that the crew survived the crash but could not get out of the aircraft befor
29 Post contains links ETinCaribe : According to ex ET CEO Girma Wake, ASKY has been profitable shortly after launch (see: http://atwonline.com/airline-finance...ves-broaden-foothold-af
30 Post contains links and images KL577 : I was engulfed by a feeling of disbelief and infinite sadness when I was notified on the Kaduna plane crash by (former-) colleagues this morning. Not
31 ETinCaribe : RIP David Sewell and involved in the crash. And thank you KL577 for sharing the endearing memories of a great man and a rich life.
32 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Unions representing Nigeria's Aviation Industry are putting pressure on President Goodluck Jonathan to appoint an Aviation Professional to head the Av
33 ssublyme : Definitely a good move on their part. Aviation is to sensitive and strategic a ministry to be left to the hands of 'learn on the job' ministers.
34 Alibo5NGN : NIGERIA’S PRESIDENTIAL JET FALCON 7X CAUGHT IN WORLDWIDE BAN OVER AIRWORTHINESS DIRECTIVE FROM EASA *NCAA SAYS NO CAUSE FOR ALARM POSTED BY LATEEF L
35 Post contains links ENU : Sad way of dying in harness. Dana Air dropped Kano. Why is their website sporting B737NGs? Air Nigeria announced daily LOS-LGW flights per 1 SEP with
36 BRJ : Where are they getting the A343 from? And will they be able to fill it daily? Seems Arik has trouble filling their flights to LHR, if I'm not mistake
37 Post contains links ssublyme : I was under the impression Arik's LOS-LHR loads were fine, however the ABV - LHR loads weren't nearly as good. Meanwhile, Nigeria is listed as the 3r
38 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : GE is has described Nigerian Aviation Industry as strategic to its growth in Africa. http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/...tion-strategic-to-business
39 Post contains links ssublyme : This article exposes more of the struggles between FAAN and Maevis as it relates to the concessionaire aggreement signed by both parties to streaamlin
40 Post contains links ssublyme : Air Nigeria currently facing it's own struggles. Clearly the astronomical rise in price of Jet fuel is affecting them as well. According to the articl
41 Post contains links ENU : Lagos seals off Air Nigeria office over N500m tax evasion: http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpage...ne/10/national-10-06-2011-020.html Air Namibia will
42 AF022 : The link certainly doesn't say Air Namibia will fly to Lagos soon. What is the source?
43 dkny : Looks like ET finally received permission to fly the 777-200LR into LOS and first flight will be on June 15, 2011
44 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Nahco Aviance one of two major aircraft ground handling companies in Nigeria is to spend $13 million (Naira 5 billion) on new equipment and staff trai
45 Post contains links ssublyme : Prophet of doom, or sign of things to come: http://huhuonline.com/index.php?opti...cial-melt-down&catid=103:more-news
46 ETinCaribe : Wow, pretty loud vote of no confidence in the owner, at least by the interviewee at the end of the article. It amazes me that the new owner did condu
47 Alibo5NGN : A lot of armchair/couch potato Nigerian news analysts have set up online news sites where they tend to focus on their own theories, perceptions or fr
48 Post contains links ssublyme : Air Nigeria & Delta airlines start their code share on LOS - ATL today. ABV - JFK (via ACC) to start on July 5th and freqquent flyer benefits (ear
49 ETinCaribe : Certainly, the owner has every right to do what he wants to do. However, I am speaking from the point of effectiveness - is his involvement in the da
50 Alibo5NGN : Nigeria Civil Aviation Authority (NCAA) has certified Aerocontractors as the first indigenous MRO (Maintenance/Repair/Overhaul) company in Nigeria. It
51 ENU : Did Arik Air order A332s directly from Airbus? Arik Air is listed as customer for CN1341. True? I wonder how they keep up their schedule: B733s gone,
52 wale03 : Any idea on when they start international ops?
53 Alibo5NGN : ENU why are you so harsh on Arik? The owners had good intentions but wrong strategies. They simply bit more than they could chew. From focusing on B7
54 Post contains links ENU : Still pending approval: http://www.inamibia.co.na/news-and-w...to-begin-windhoek-lagos-route.html That was actually a genuine question about the curr
55 Post contains links ssublyme : "Arik Air, has met and satisfied the requirements as stipulated by the US Department of Transport on foreign operated aircraft into the United States,
56 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : As reported earlier in the thread, Air Nigeria, Delta Airline Unveil Code Share Deal. http://allafrica.com/stories/201106230550.html
57 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Other news ..... Delta Airlines rewards its sales partners with awards. http://www.travpr.com/pr-6918-delta-air-lines-honours.html Continental Airline
58 Post contains links ssublyme : http://www.macauhub.com.mo/en/2011/0...iberia-sign-partnership-agreement/ On the IAH - LOS route, it would seem some of the problems at W3 will preven
59 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Lagos Murtala Mohammed International Airport recorded over 6 million arriving and departing passengers in 2010. Over five (5) million arriving and dep
60 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Finally after 6 years, the Nigerian Government has agreed to pay US$ 6 million to Hydro Air Cargo on behalf of the Nigeria Aerospace Management Author
61 Post contains links ENU : Did anyone ever hear about this venture: Express Airways Nigeria? Caverton recently signed a contract for three AW139 medium twin engine helicopters:
62 Post contains links ssublyme : First Nation & Air Midwest are still grounded as they have not yet met the NCAA conditions necessary to begin operations. Both are past their plan
63 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Arik Air has began a second daily frequency between Abuja and Enugu. http://www.african-aviation.com/inde...route&catid=16%3Aafrica&Itemid=176
64 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Federal Aviation Authority of Nigeria (FAAN) has hiked taxes paid by domestic and international passengers in Nigeria. For example passengers on the 4
65 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : A business woman and a top ruling Peoples Democratic Party Official, Princess Stella Oduah - Ogiemwonyi has been appointed as the new Nigerian Aviatio
66 ENU : Arik Air cancelled the last two B777s too. The airline still has 8xB737 and 7xB787 on order. Arik also announced a four weekly service Lagos to Bamako
67 ssublyme : Not sure I fully support anyone without prior experience in the industry. I feel the position of Minister of ??? is too important and should not be fi
68 ETinCaribe : Perhaps an outsider with proven business skills and work ethics is what the doctor ordered - we shall see. Yes, best of luck to her and her team.
69 Alibo5NGN : It looks like the A345s are going to be permanent fixtures at Arik Air and not temps until the B777s roll in as originally planned!
70 Post contains links and images Alibo5NGN : Much of Southern Nigeria was soaked in heavy torrential rain yesterday causing delays and cancellation of many flights across the country. Benin City
71 AF022 : Is there a source for this? LOS-COO is a very short flight - is there any demand?
72 Alibo5NGN : Arik Air has been flying one of it's Dash 8-402Qs between Lagos and Cotonou for more than a year now. Bamako is a tag on which may make it more viabl
73 AF022 : I didn't know this. Amadeus shows only VK between LOS and COO. I guess Amadeus is wrong.
74 Post contains links ssublyme : Emirates signs interline aggreement with Arik Air. This should be good news to Arik and their loads. http://odili.net/news/source/2011/jul/12/6.html
75 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : The new Minister of Aviation, Mrs Stella Oduah-Ogiemwonyi has pledged to take immediate action on the high cost of Jet A-1 fuel in Nigeria. High fuel
76 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Delta State Government has formally announced the commencement of commercial flights from Asaba International Airport as of July 13, 2011. The first a
77 Post contains links ENU : Air Nigeria launched direct flights from Abuja to Enugu and Owerri. An Arik Air B737-700 is impounded in Dakar by the Senegalese Authorities for outst
78 Alibo5NGN : Ths is truly embarrassing! One small step in what could be big things to come at Asaba.
79 BRJ : How is this affecting schedules? Any disruptions in service? I would guess flights to Dakar are suspended? First the A330, now a 73G, not good!
80 ssublyme : It's hard from the outside to even speculate at the issues internal to Arik. From one view, they appear to be the most serious airline to come out of
81 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : A summary of the crisis going on in the Nigerian Aviation Industry. The new Aviation Minister has her work cut out for her. The two most important sho
82 Post contains links ETinCaribe : Hello all, your inisight and contribution to the following thread would. Arik Air Heading For Bankruptcy? (by Flying Belgian Jul 26 2011 in Civil Avia
83 Alibo5NGN : Thanks for the alert. I am currently in Nigeria and have flown in Arik Air several times over the past week. Nothing has changed except that airfares
84 Post contains links ssublyme : Arik Air records over 1million passengers for the first half 2011. LOS - JFK - LOS route records 30% increase in passenger traffic. New international
85 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Bauchi State to build an International Airport in 18 months. Nearby Gombe State has already built an airport. http://allafrica.com/stories/20110803093
86 Alibo5NGN : The ICAO code for Asaba International Airport is DNAS. The runway is designated 11/29. Runway is 3,400 meters and is 66 meters wide. The Apron has a t
87 Post contains links Rukundo : RwandAir plans to fly to Nigeria, in 2012 : http://rwandan-flyer.blog4ever.com/b...4946-rwandan_destinations_n_2.html
88 AF022 : VK is starting service to TMS. Why? Is there any traffic here?
89 ssublyme : THere might be some oil traffic.
90 Alibo5NGN : A feeder for Delta Airlines?
91 usflyer msp : TMS is not an oil destination. Its virtually all VFR and tourists. Aero has flown LOS-TMS in the past to poor results, I guess VK must think it will
92 Post contains links ssublyme : Arik signs 5yr distribution agreement with Amadeus. Wasn't there a deal done in the past already? http://nigerianbulletin.com/2011/08/...ll-content-di
93 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : An Arik Air CRJ-900 jet filled with passengers was seized in Kano yesterday by Federal Authorities to satisfy a $ 1 million Court Judgement against Ar
94 777way : Royal Jordanian planning AMM-LOS service from November 2 weekly A332.
95 Post contains links Impacto : Has anyone seen this interview with the Arik Air M.D? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ugQY7rg3U An Absolute disgrace! No wonder the company is going
96 777way : Turkish Airlines Cargo plan to start twice weekly IST-LOS service from September if approved, according to a post at Turk aviation thread.
97 ssublyme : Turkish airlines also looking into codesharing with Arik Air. Currently Arik's books are being audited by Turkish Airlines. Unfortunately can't find t
98 brj : Wonder if they started this aduit before or after the CR9 was seized a couple of days ago, with passengers on board no less.
99 MaverickM11 : JAN11 was 42% full, and FEB11 was 28%. On a 345. Dreadful.
100 Bennett123 : How can they make money with these load factors?.
101 Post contains links wale03 : Was going through Air Nigeria's twitter timeline and saw the just got a 737-400 delivered,registration 5N-VNM.Link to it on their website : http://www
102 Post contains links Bennett123 : http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737-25375.htm Some more info about this aircraft.
103 ssublyme : I'm guessing before, I couldn't imagine from initial statement interest in codesharing to audit would take less than 2 days. Govt-Private relationshi
104 Alibo5NGN : Two friends have flown on Arik Air LOS - JFK route in the last two weeks and complained that every seat was occupied both business and economy. Apart
105 MaverickM11 : FEB11 is the latest month of data currently. MAR11 should be available soon. They can't. Unless they're not paying for fuel or crews, which is not to
106 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : In the past week, Air Nigeria has launched a new service to Sao Tome & Principe and taken delivery of a B734. The Boeing 737-400 has a two class c
107 Post contains links ssublyme : Arik Air to add Asaba International Airport in Delta state to it's domestic route map. Commencing Sep 2, flight will be 5x weekly (excluding Tue &
108 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : A Nigeria Air Force C-130 Hercules being flown to Cambridge England developed a technical fault with its radio and could not communicate while over Fr
109 Post contains links wale03 : I found a picture of it landing safely http://www.philmynottphoto.co.uk/blo...ads/2011/08/1Phil-Mynott-Photo.jpg
110 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : For our Ethiopian brothers who have been complaining about the delay of Nigerian Aviation Authorities in granting Ethiopian Airlines permission to fly
111 ssublyme : Wikipedia lists 80 destinations for ET, if 40% of revenue comes from their 14 weekly frequencies to Nigeria I too would delay/deny approving any compe
112 dkny : Hmm i really doubt 40% of their revenue comes from Nigeria.
113 MaverickM11 : I'd bet a dollar that the two are related. Which request came first? The ET 777 to LOS? This is probably a blessing in disguise for Arik, since ET ca
114 AF022 : I think TAAG flew for a very short period to ADD, reasoning that if ET could fly to LAD that TAAG should fly to ADD. But of course it didn't work out
115 AsoRock : Doesn't Abidjan Airport in Cote D'Ivoire operate aviobridges?
116 Post contains links ssublyme : Air Nigeria looks to solidify their position in West Africa by adding Freetown in Sierra Leone. Also they have announced Kinshasa in the Democratic Re
117 MaverickM11 : Exactly--that's what happens when you have government henchmen running an airline VK is going to open a mini hub 68 miles from their main LOS hub, an
118 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Federal Ministry of Aviation has directed all Nigerian registered ailines to become members of IATA. I guess this is a step in the right direction as
119 usflyer msp : I have to agree...that makes no sense whatsoever. Why open up a hub for Central Africa (which is east of Nigeria) in COO (which is west of Nigeria)!?
120 viasa : Any news about First Nation Airways? Are the three A320s still stored in LOS? The website (http://www.flyfirstnation.com) is still not running...
121 wale03 : I haven't been to LOS myself in a while but I know some people in the AirForce stationed there and they said they are still at LOS
122 Post contains links ssublyme : It would appear Arik Air and the credit card companies have addressed the issues of accepting credit cards as a form of payment for Arik Air tickets.
123 Post contains images Alibo5NGN : A lot of hangers are sprouting up at Lagos Airport in the last 2 years - 6 in total after decades of zero hangers. I am having difficulties identifyin
124 Post contains links ENU : My guess from left to right: 1. Built for Quits Aviation Services: http://initial-concepts.com/current-projects-on-site/ - Adenuga's hangar??? 2. Cav
125 Alibo5NGN : Adenuga's hanger is located at the General Aviation/Old Terminal area. It has a red roof and was built for his 3 Bombardier Challenger 300s. The Quit
126 Post contains links and images ENU : The B1900D (5N-PTL) parked in the hangar on the right belongs to Wings Aviation, I can confirm, perhaps that helps. It seems to be built for another m
127 Post contains images ETinCaribe : Hi Alibo5NGN: been away from a.net for a bit; almost missed this request for comment, never happens so will take advantage I actually don't know abou
128 Post contains links and images AsoRock : Royal Jordanian has announced it is to start Amman-Lagos (Nigeria) service from the end of November 2011. Flights will be operated by the Airbus A330
129 brj : Very good news indeed. Seems like ACC would just become a tag-on to the LOS flight, like just about everyone else has done at some point before going
130 Post contains links ENU : It's funny that they will use the aircraft formerly leased by Arik Air for this route. By the way, Arik Air will cancel the (money burning) Abuja-Lon
131 wale03 : When I heard of the route,I thought exactly the same thing.
132 ssublyme : THought the same thing as well, but somehow convinced myself it wasn't RJ who received the A330 but Gulf Air. I would expect this is largely due to t
133 Impacto : Same here. This was exactly my first thought when I heard about this development.....How ironic! Seems like RJ has seized the initiative with a visio
134 ssublyme : Some members on PPRUNE are stating Arik's A345 will become 5N REG in November. This should help cut back the cost of the LOS - LHR and LOS - JFK route
135 Alibo5NGN : There are two A345s. Which one is going to get the Nigerian reg? If both are, then what is the reg of the other?
136 Post contains links ssublyme : Arik Air adds Bamako, Cotonou & Ouagadougou starting Oct 11, twice weekly. The Lagos-Cotonou(Benin)-Ouagadougou(Burkina Faso)-Bamako(Mali)-Ouagado
137 ssublyme : It appears the LOS - ADD codeshare is ending Oct 14th based on VK schedule. Anyone with more info on if this is temporary, permanent?
138 ssublyme : Arik Air has announced 3 weekly LOS - AUH starting on November 29th. Flight will be operated with their A340. Is it possible to maintain 3 weekly LOS
139 bennett123 : How suitable is an A340-500 for that route?.
140 AsoRock : This is just terrible planning, no wonder they are struggling for good performance on their long haul flights. This Abu Dhabi service is questionable
141 777way : ^ AUH is with 737-700 not A345.
142 chieft : Does anybody know "Topbrass Aviation"? Seems they want to start scheduled flying with 100 seat aircraft....
143 Post contains links and images ssublyme : Thanks for the clarification. The article (which I forgot to cite) I saw mentioned A345. http://www.ameinfo.com/276719.html
144 Post contains images Impacto : Or they can partner with Etihad to codeshare onward connecting flights from AUH to counter EK from LOS......Oh wait....they already have an interline
145 soups : Los-auh is on a345 and not 737
146 ssublyme : LOS - LHR LOS - JFK LOS - AUH all listed with A345. Not sure how this will work, but all the best.
147 brj : My guess is alot of substitutions with the 73G/738 on the LHR and AUH routes. The 738 is used on JNB flights now, correct?
148 ssublyme : Yes you are correct, but that is because the A330 they had on that route was reclaimed by the lessor. To my understanding, the A345 was last used for
149 Post contains links ssublyme : CHanges at the head of Nigerian aviation Ministry: "FAAN Managing Director Mr. Richard Aisuebeogun; Nigeria Airspace Management Agency (NAMA), Alhaji
150 Post contains links wale03 : Arik Air orders two 747-8 Intercontinentals,didn't see that coming. http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1964
151 usflyer msp : I honestly think the management at Arik Air must be incompetent. The last thing they should be ordering is something like a 748. Their network does n
152 ssublyme : I thought they had a LOI for the 748 but never converted them to an order? Capacity wise, I would expect the LOS-LHR route would be the route most li
153 chieft : Never ever.As far as I know they cannot even fill an A345 on that route.. Arik performances LOS-JFK: 27% LOS-LHR: 61% LOS-JNB: 31% ABV-LHR: 17% These
154 ssublyme : How current/accurate are these numbers? Not necessarily doubting just curious.
155 brj : They have dropped ABV-LHR haven't they? I believe the 738 that was used on this route is now used to JNB, since the A330 was repo'd.
156 Post contains links ENU : It's unbelievable how much crap is being written about Arik Air and Nigeria following the announced order. It seems as if people can't stand the possi
157 chieft : Sorry: 2010; but what I got, it hasn't changed that much... And: Even if you have 75 or 80% on an A345, it does not justify a B748...
158 brj : I used to live in Lagos, and love most things Nigerian. And I wish Arik would succeed, Nigeria needs a stable and reputable airline. While I agree wi
159 ENU : I'm not defending Arik's management or arguing that their decisions make sense. That is indeed something you could debate about, but it still has not
160 Alibo5NGN : Currently in Lagos on my way out. Saw two Dash 8-300s parked at the largest of the new hangers at LOS as I was taking off for Asaba on Sept 30th. I w
161 Post contains links ENU : Should be them indeed - former Heli Malongo (Angola) aircraft. Top Brass Aviation will use these aircraft to serve the oil industry. Still awaiting c
162 wale03 : Any idea who they went to?
163 Alibo5NGN : Thanks for the info. I will definitely be there. It would be interesting to see the new toys acquired by the Air Force since the last airshow in 2010
164 wale03 : I too will be there,saw you earlier this year at this year's event.
165 wale03 : Meant last year's event[Edited 2011-10-10 03:07:04]
166 Post contains links viasa : Both will go to a company with the name "SNC - Sierra Nevada Corporation". They have already some Do328s: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/aircraft.php?sear
167 Post contains links ENU : So, three of DANA's Do328s went to SNC? 5N-SAG, 5N-IEP and 5N-DOZ (D-CAAF): http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1313336/ The last one is not listed in your
168 Alibo5NGN : No new hanger has been built next to Adenuga's hanger. Overland hopes to build a hanger to the left of Adenuga's hanger where it is currently storing
169 Impacto : Perhaps they commenced flight services today, because flighstats has loaded some flights to ABV & PHC from LOS. This is from Friday the 14th and
170 bennett123 : Who would want to fly for them. What chance of getting paid.
171 Post contains links ssublyme : It appears UA will be dropping the ACC - LOS tag on from their IAD - ACC - LOS once they start IAH - LOS. Added link. http://www.businessdayonline.com
172 Alibo5NGN : The reporter is ambigious in her report. I read this article to mean that United will cease its IAD - ACC - LOS service and focus on the new IAH - LO
173 ssublyme : Did a quick search on united.com and it does appear it is just the ACC - LOS tag on that is gone. IAD - LOS is routed through IAH, while IAD - ACC is
174 rutankrd : Because it probably hasn't enough dirty luca to grease enough local dignities sufficiently
175 Post contains images ssublyme : Non-value added post.
176 I380North : Not until the Nigerian Authorities understand that International and domestic flights must transition seemlessly. LOS needs new world class terminals
177 Post contains links 777way : Kenya Airways Cargo plan to launch freighter service to LOS with a 744F by next year, probably linked to Amsterdam. http://www.viethoagroup.com/en/New
178 Post contains links ssublyme : Arik Air is suspended from IATA BSP for "non-compliance with IATA banking requirements for settlement purpose". Arik Air's response "'IATA is trying t
179 Alibo5NGN : Arik Air is steadily becoming its own worst enemy. The need to save every last dime and to delay all payments to the very last second is beginning to
180 ssublyme : If you select the "flexible" radio button when performing a search it will list the results as a Matrix of dates or if you select "Schedule" you can s
181 AF022 : ASKY is starting nonstop ABV-LFW flights in November. Should be good for connectivity from ABV to Francophone West Africa. Connecting via LOS is mess.
182 777way : Arik cancel Abu Dhabi plan.
183 Post contains links ssublyme : Not sure how to interpret this. Are you saying Arik has cancelled plans to start Abu Dhabi? Meanwhile in this article, Arik has formally announced as
184 Alibo5NGN : Nigerian Bulletin report states that Arik Air signed an interline agreement with Hahn Air. Who is Hahn Air????
185 Post contains links ENU : More problems for Arik Air: Source: http://www.punchng.com/index.php?opt...-boss-others-over-n35bn&Itemid=543 Not formally cancelled but rather re
186 Post contains links ENU : Arik's explanation for quitting the ABV-LHR-route: http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/...rik-operations-to-heathrow/101569/ RwandAir to commence flig
187 usflyer msp : Hahn Air is this weird airline that does not actually fly any flights but uses their ticket stock as a way for carriers that do not have interline ag
188 Post contains links ssublyme : There appears to be quite alot of talk regarding Arik's stated reason for quitting the route. Heading: "Diplomatic row imminent between Nigeria, UK *
189 ENU : FirstNation will finally commence scheduled operations tomorrow: a daily Lagos-Abuja flight. It will add PHC and KAN in December. It's their right to
190 Post contains images Alibo5NGN : Why only one daily flight between Lagos and Abuja when it has 3 A320s? . They need to get all 3 aircraft on revenue generating flights as soon as pos
191 Post contains links ENU : Arik Air confirmed that the flights to Luanda, Bamako and Ouagadougou never took off, but they are now announced to start before the end of the year,
192 MaverickM11 : What on earth is Arik thinking? They're chasing after destinations like AUH and ADD that are mostly flow, and then unsurprisingly not launching them.
193 ENU : It seems the Nigerian government is serious about this: A bit of an overreaction invoked by internal popular presures. Why is Virgin Atlantic not hit
194 ENU : False rumours.
195 brj : Why would anyone want to book travel on such unreliability, especially on their inaugural flight.
196 Alibo5NGN : The management of Asaba Airport is super anxious to have as many airlines serve Asaba so as you pointed out this is probably rumor.
197 Post contains images ENU : Apparently, Arik Air also intends to start a Lagos-Cotonou-Kinshasa service. It makes you wonder why Cotonou is so popular, Air Nigeria also routes it
198 Alibo5NGN : Thanks for the photos Enu. Arik Air is having a 5th Anniversary reception tonight at the Waldorf Astoria New York City. I hope they will focus on mark
199 I380North : Most of my Nigerian doctor friends have never heard about Arik, And these are guys who would purchase J tickets. Makes you wonder why Arik spends the
200 brj : Wonder who is funding the anniversary reception. I know it was mentioned in another thread, and I touched on here in a previous post, but if you take
201 Post contains links ENU : It seems the Minister of Aviation and aviation authorities have chosen to play the hard card and arbitrarily: It's unfortunate that they are playing i
202 ssublyme : The plot thickens. It would appear Friday's announcement of IAG buying BMI (most likely for their slots) could be argued supports Arik's claim. Perhap
203 soups : BA given 1 week then its going 3x a week on LHR-LOS, unless if something is sorted Plan B for BA is probably have more capacity to ACC and connect PAX
204 usflyer msp : It would be quite ironic if BA flew their pax to ACC and they connected to LOS on W3.
205 ssublyme : I think a more likely plan B would be to swap out LHR - ABV with a 744.
206 Post contains images Alibo5NGN : Sweet dreams. It won't happen! Nigerians will switch to other European carriers. Ghanaian taxes on the short ACC - LOS route are unreasonably high. I
207 Post contains links soups : Many nigerians are actually using ACC to get to Europe and elsewhere as flights from accra are cheaper. http://allafrica.com/stories/201111040256.htm
208 Alibo5NGN : My brother Soups, the capacity and demand between Ghana and Europe is not there and has no impact on the ever rising demand for long haul business an
209 ssublyme : Another more likely scenario would be for IB to upgrade capacity on the LOS - MAD from the A319 to something bigger and just connect LON passengers t
210 Alibo5NGN : I hope BA blinks because I am flying them to Lagos tomorrow. So far, they have not sent me any notices or modified my itinerary. The one simple solut
211 Post contains images MaverickM11 : I hope BA finds all the flights that have all the Nigerian ministers and bigwigs and cancel those ones
212 Alibo5NGN : A confirmation of my note to Soups, another thread is discussing the downgrade of Accra by Lufthansa from A330 to a B738. There is no validity in the
213 Post contains links ssublyme : BA proposes reduction of first and business class fares by 20% http://www.thenationonlineng.net/201...2%80%99s-20%25-fare-cut-offer.html
214 ETinCaribe : Interesting high stakes poker being played. Hopefully all parties involved will find a common ground and not impact the flying public.
215 Post contains links ssublyme : Looks like an agreement (atleast initially) has been reached. Arik will gain 7 slots for their ABV - LHR route: http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/..
216 Post contains links ssublyme : Court grants nollywood actor Baba Suwe N25m for unlawful detention by NDLEA. http://allafrica.com/stories/201111250417.html In furthering the move to
217 Alibo5NGN : The slower than expected completion of the ATC tower and installation of ILS equipment has forced Arik Air, Aero. Air Nigeria and First Nation from la
218 Tdan : How likely is this to happen? Transit visas would be HUGE for Nigeria and may actually make airlines like Arik and Air Nigeria viable in the long run
219 Alibo5NGN : Citizens of the member States of Economic Community of West African States - ECOWAS need no visas to enter Nigeria. Citizens of Kenya and Seychelles
220 Post contains links ssublyme : Issue 9 of Arik wings magazine out: http://arikwings.com/ Page 83 also makes mention of Arik partnering with Skyteam. I'm not sure how to interpret th
221 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Rwandair has launched a 3 times a week service between Kigali and Lagos. http://in2eastafrica.net/rwandair-opens-route-to-nigeria/
222 Post contains links ssublyme : BA appears to have chosen to negotiate with the NCAA on the price fixing fines levied against them with a view of reducing the fine vs. taking the cas
223 ebbuk : Perhaps BA know that they would find it hard to win the case. A sensible move by BA I think.
224 bennett123 : Are you saying that you feel that BA has a poor case?.
225 ebbUK : I am not privy to any matters pertaining to this case but if BA choose to negotiate, it would appear theirs is not a winning case. i.e they could be
226 anstar : I believe BA and VS both get quite a few LOS based pax connecting through ACC as fares are cheaper and there is not enough capacity to meet demand LH
227 MaverickM11 : Or an innocent party dealing with the Nigerian court system, on a case that clearly has populist political support backing it....
228 Post contains images ssublyme : Comments along the lines of "when dealing with Nigeria, they are the corrupt piece of the puzzle, while the other party is innocent" is completely rid
229 ebbUK : Clearly has populist political appeal because it seeks to stop price collusion and thus ensure fair prices for Nigerians. If there was any innocence,
230 MaverickM11 : It's hard to suspend my disbelief, especially when Nigerian carriers would be the main beneficiaries of high UK carrier fares.
231 anstar : Its less price collosion and more about the LHR-LOS market not supplying enough capacity to meet the demand which is driving the prices up. If the Ni
232 ebbUK : If you know this to be fact, why not tell BA? Save them negotiating with NASA and thus avoid having to pay a fine? I am sure BA employ good lawyers w
233 bennett123 : So if BA/VS are so expensive, why do these people not fly with Arik?. iirc, Arik had an A330 re possessed for not paying their bills about a year ago,
234 anstar : Said what? They are not colluding.... they are just charging what Nigerians are willing to pay. If there was more competition then the fares would go
235 ebbUK : I haven't a clue. Speaking for myself, I'm a bag of contradictions when it comes to money. I love a bargain. Equally, I am a creature of habit. So wi
236 bennett123 : Personally, IF BA/VS are THAT expensive then I might give Arik a try. Especially I was Nigerian. Unless passengers have other reasons for chosing BA/V
237 Post contains links ENU : This whole discussion doesn't really make sense, since some are convinced that BV/VA are guilty, while others argue that they can't be accused of pric
238 ssublyme : With Arik still seeking compensation from Govt for damage caused to it's aircraft by the guy who drove a car into it's plane, to damage done to their
239 ebbuk : Why don't you read what I quoted, instead of asking me again? You made an incorrect statement, "As much as people might like to moan about BA or VS a
240 ENU : This reasoning is similar to the argument that you BA/VA can ignore aviation regulations in Nigeria because the Nigerian authorities are corrupt. It'
241 Post contains links ENU : The latest from the princess ( http://twitter.com/#!/stellaoduah ) Source: http://www.punchng.com/index.php?opt...-next-year-–-minister&Itemid=5
242 ebbuk : The part that of my post that you highlighted was not a question. If you refer to my earlier posts, in which I question why an "innocent" BA would se
243 Post contains links na : This is the only photo I could find of Max Air´s (former QF) 744 5N-HMB, currently likely operated on Hadj services. Anybody seen it? http://www.airt
244 anstar : Well I said it... And it is obvious... If BA can fill a 747 and Virgin a 340-600 at higher prices than an Arik 340-500 it is clear more Nigerians pre
245 ebbuk : Little style you may say but there is no doubt this princess has some big cohones to take on the UK establishment and private companies and WIN. Then
246 na : My ex-wife is Nigerian and she prefers to fly LH. She doesnt trust most Nigerian companies.
247 jfk777 : ALL this Nigerian bickering reminds me of another airline in the southern hemisphere but on a different continent. South America is that continent and
248 ebbuk : Well then say "I think it is because BA or VS are foreign carriers". It isn't obvious. Don't speak on other peoples' behalf. Certainly not mine. Mate
249 ssublyme : My understanding of the current BASA between Nigeria and UK was signed/created in 1958, before Nigeria's independence. What I do not understand is wh
250 bennett123 : So if a Nigerian Airliner is unsafe, then no one else should be allowed to fly to Nigeria. Your logic eludes me. My understanding is that there are va
251 ssublyme : No no, that's not what I said or meant. Up until about a year ago, US had banned any Nigerian registered aircraft from it's airports due to safety co
252 Flybrd : I could not believe it yesterday Night when i heard the Aviation Minister saying that the FG has approved a New National Carrier to be formed through
253 Alibo5NGN : In a complex country like Nigeria there are many subtle political, economic and ethnic undercurrents and undertones that drive many decisions that ma
254 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : Virgin Atlantic claims that it has done nothing wrong in the way it charges fares on its Lagos - London - Lagos service. It claims that it was surpris
255 Alibo5NGN : Nigerian Ministry of Aviation gets $327 million for 2012 out of the 2012 Federal budget. This is one of the largest budgets for any African Aviation M
256 ssublyme : From Arik tweet: "Pax stats coming in. 8,196,483 pax carried@29 November. Aiming for 8,500,000 by end of year. 2011 set to be new record with 25% incr
257 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : There has been a lot of news reports in Nigeria over the past week that a major oil importer was doping subsidized Kerosene and converting it to the f
258 Post contains links ssublyme : Air Nigeria plans to restart LOS - London & LOS - JNB. THey also plan to re-activate their order for 8 E-jets from Enbraer. http://www.businessday
259 United727 : Are there any good current photos of the Antique Jetliners rotting away in Africa? Any of the aged planes sitting down there able to fly with work or
260 BRJ : Wonder what the fleet situation is like? My understanding is that fleet is made up of 733, E190 and a 734. They still don't have an a/c with the mean
261 Post contains links ssublyme : This might answer your question. Though the introduction of international routes was announced to commence about 6 months ago or so. Air Nigeria's pla
262 Post contains links ssublyme : World Airways extends contract with Allied Air Cargo http://allafrica.com/stories/201201190487.html
263 Post contains links Alibo5NGN : First Nation Airways has started its second route within Nigeria with a two times daily service to Port Harcourt. Two of the three A320s it acquired a
264 Alibo5NGN : Has anyone any info on the proposed new Nigerian carrier? It was supposed to be set up in the first half of this year.
265 Post contains links LipeGIG : This is becoming too long. Part 16 now open, please continue discussions there. Here's the link Nigeria Aviation Thread - Part 16 (by LipeGIG Feb 5 20
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