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Why No Commercial Flights To DAN (Danville, VA)?  
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6537 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4280 times:

I was wondering, is there any particular reason why there is no commercial air service to DAN (Danville, VA)? The metropolitan area has about 100,000 people. GSO is about an hour away, however, I am surprised that an area of Danville's size doesn't have commercial flights. Have there ever been commercial flights into DAN?


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User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4256 times:
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Because, I assume, is the propensity (or lackof) those 100,000 willing to pay more than they would out of GSO.
Other than Averett Univ there and Martinsville Speedway nearby, what other things would bring traffic in? What is the big business in the area?
Danville did have service before.
http://www.departedflights.com/DAN79intro.html
http://www.departedflights.com/PI010973.html
http://www.departedflights.com/PI042979.html
http://www.departedflights.com/CE111579.html
http://www.departedflights.com/WR011586.html



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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3817 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4238 times:

You answered your own question.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
GSO is about an hour away

The area is more than adequately served by GSO. RDU and ROA are also within reasonable driving distance.


User currently offlinegenybustrvlr From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4230 times:

Dannville, VA: 2009 Median Household Income $29,000..... That's why!

User currently offlineFutureUScapt From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 765 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4208 times:

US served DAN from CLT and INT as recently as June 1995. It was flown by now defunct CCAir.

User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3817 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4208 times:

Quoting genybustrvlr (Reply 3):
Dannville, VA: 2009 Median Household Income $29,000..... That's why!

They should give G4 a ring.. It'd be a touch sell between ROA and GSO but it's that or bust.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4167 times:

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 2):

The area is more than adequately served by GSO. RDU and ROA are also within reasonable driving distance.

Pretty much it. GSO is an hour away. RDU is about 80 minutes. LYH is about 80 minutes away, much larger than Danville and can only support 6 Dash 8s/CRJs a day to CLT (Delta left not too long ago).

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 5):
They should give G4 a ring.. It'd be a touch sell between ROA and GSO but it's that or bust.

Doubt that would happen, with Allegiant having a fair-sized presence in GSO. Those pax that G4 is chasing can get in their car and make the drive down to GSO.


User currently offlineatcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1205 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3969 times:

Quoting genybustrvlr (Reply 3):

Agreed. The area around Martinsville has become very economically depressed.

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Reply 1):

Yep, EAS flights to say ATL, IAD, or CLT would be exorbitantly more expensive than GSO, which isn't an option for most people living in that area. GSO adequately serves the area with legacies and LCCs at lower fares than Danville will ever see.

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 5):

I highly doubt G4 would be interested considering they serve ROA and GSO quite well. G4 does bring mainline service to small communities, but it isn't that often that they start an airport from the ground up as the first commercial carrier. They would have to spot a major gap in the market to do that, and frankly Danville isn't it. As mentioned above, the median household income is under 30k, which is hardly enough for a family of four to take a trip to Florida for a weeklong vacation. If the area were more isolated and lacked/had limited air service, I could see G4 giving it a go, but with several options within a 90-120 minute drive, it won't happen. For those who can afford to fly, convenience means far less than low fares. Only business travelers want convenience and my guess is there aren't many in that area (although it is unlikely G4 would help them much anyway).


User currently offlineeastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3756 times:

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 2):
The area is more than adequately served by GSO. RDU and ROA are also within reasonable driving distance.

My thoughts exactly

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 6):
Pretty much it. GSO is an hour away. RDU is about 80 minutes. LYH is about 80 minutes away, much larger than Danville and can only support 6 Dash 8s/CRJs a day to CLT (Delta left not too long ago).

LYH has seen a downspiral cut in routes through time. In the 90's US Express (USAir Express back then..Piedmont legacy) served LYH from CLT, BWI, PIT and DCA (I think...) UA from IAD and DL started service from ATL. Fastforward 17 years the only route standing is CLT...you do the math.

Does anyone know if American Eagle ever served LYH (circa 1990)? I don't remember ever seeing them at LYH, but I do remember a map where the city was displayed with a triangle (regional service)

Thanks

Rudy (IAD)



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User currently offlineuncGSO From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 344 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3679 times:

Quoting eastern023 (Reply 8):
Does anyone know if American Eagle ever served LYH (circa 1990)? I don't remember ever seeing them at LYH, but I do remember a map where the city was displayed with a triangle (regional service)

Looks like LYH had flights to RDU on AA around December of 1987...but they didnt last...

http://www.departedflights.com/AARDUhub.html


User currently offlineeastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3600 times:

Quoting uncGSO (Reply 9):
Looks like LYH had flights to RDU on AA around December of 1987...but they didnt last...

That sounds about right...!! Thanks. I knew it wasnt my imagination...



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User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1046 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3546 times:

Quoting uncGSO (Reply 9):
Quoting eastern023 (Reply 8):
Does anyone know if American Eagle ever served LYH (circa 1990)? I don't remember ever seeing them at LYH, but I do remember a map where the city was displayed with a triangle (regional service)

Looks like LYH had flights to RDU on AA around December of 1987...but they didnt last...

http://www.departedflights.com/AARDUhub.html

I was thinking AA had flights from BNA to LYH briefly in the early days of the hub there, too, but I could be wrong. (DepartedFlights.com only shows BNA flights starting in 1991.)


User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3517 times:
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Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
I was wondering, is there any particular reason why there is no commercial air service to DAN (Danville, VA)?

According to Airvav, DAN's main 6500 foot runway (02/20) is seriously cracked and in need of repair.

After a couple of blown tires, no commercial traffic will ever return.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3305 times:

Surrounded by airports including:
GSO 56 miles
ROA 60 miles
LYH 63 miles
RDU 71 miles
RIC 160 miles

There are people that live outside major metropolian areas that are farther away from a major airport.

When I was working in LYH, many of the people I was working with would fly into RDU or GSO and drive up so they could get nonstop flights or cheaper fares. I would fly NW into ROA, the folks from ATL would fly DL into ROA or LYH, the guys from DFW would fly AA into GSO, and the guys from BOS would fly AA into RDU.

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 12):
According to Airvav, DAN's main 6500 foot runway (02/20) is seriously cracked and in need of repair.

Yeah, you can even see the cracks if you zoom in on google maps.


User currently offlineeastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 13):
the folks from ATL would fly DL into ROA or LYH,

Too Bad ATL-LYH is gone...



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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2226 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3226 times:

If Interstate 73 is ever built between GSO and ROA, drive times from Danville to GSO and ROA will be further reduced.

This stretch of I-73 has been under discussion for at least 20 years. It would be nice if Virginia stopped talking about it, and started building it!



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3194 times:

Quoting eastern023 (Reply 14):
Too Bad ATL-LYH is gone...

Yeah, that was back in 2008 & 2009 when we were going in and out of LYH.
Believe it or not, DL briefly loaded a DTW-LYH flight for summer 2010. It was only in the system for a few weeks before they pulled it out, long before it was even scheduled to operate.

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 15):
If Interstate 73 is ever built between GSO and ROA, drive times from Danville to GSO and ROA will be further reduced.

This stretch of I-73 has been under discussion for at least 20 years. It would be nice if Virginia stopped talking about it, and started building it!

I-73, don't get me started on that pork barrel. No one in Michigan or Ohio wants that highway to be built.
There are higher priority roads to rebuild and maintain than to build another costly interstate. I think really the only state that really wants it is South Carolina, and maybe North Carolina.


User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 872 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3154 times:
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Where's that Piedmont YS11 when you need it? I did a multi-stop DCA-ATL on PI in the mid 70s just for the heck of it. I visited DAN for 12 minutes. Nobody got off the plane and I vaguely remember one or two boarding. Long gone are the days of EAS.

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User currently offlineeastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3126 times:

Quoting DTW.SCE" class="quote" target="_blank">PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 16):
Yeah, that was back in 2008 & 2009 when we were going in and out of LYH.
Believe it or not, DL briefly loaded a DTW-LYH flight for summer 2010. It was only in the system for a few weeks before they pulled it out, long before it was even scheduled to operate.

Had no idea, wow now LYH only has one route one carrier....I wonder if they would ever close the terminal to commercial ops. LU is not big enough to support ops. A lot of the big business have left the Lynchburg area including Ericsson (Frmr GE)



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8273 posts, RR: 23
Reply 19, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3078 times:

Because nobody's ever heard of it.


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User currently offlineFutureUScapt From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 765 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2901 times:

Quoting eastern023 (Reply 18):
Had no idea, wow now LYH only has one route one carrier....I wonder if they would ever close the terminal to commercial ops. LU is not big enough to support ops. A lot of the big business have left the Lynchburg area including Ericsson (Frmr GE)

And why would they do that?

LYH served more passengers in 2010 than it did in any of the previous 20 years, and while that number will likely fall in 2011 due to the departure of DL (US added 1 frequency as a result, partially mitigating the loss in seats) it will still be well above the passenger totals seen in the earlier part of this decade.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 21, posted (3 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2800 times:

I surprised that UA doesn't consider 9L SF3 service on IAD-LYH.

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