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FLL Runway Project Starts  
User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2913 posts, RR: 7
Posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6360 times:

Saw on the company e-mails this morning that FLL's runway project is starting today with Phase 1 (3-MAY thru 7-JUL) and rolls through 2014 with Phase 4.

FAA info here:

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/notices/media/SE11001.pdf

Let's hope Mother Nature cooperates and delays don't get too bad during the RWY Closures!

~H81


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User currently offlineJonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 673 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6322 times:

This is for runway 9R right? Cause I heard something about construction on 9L thats going to cause 13 to be in use? (sorry I just cant see the link on my phone right now)

User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2913 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6270 times:

Phase 1 is closeing 9L/27R which is going to bump the traffic to 13/31 until July.


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User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 5753 times:

I suspect they'll be weight penalties on some of the longer haul departures from 13/31.

User currently offlineisp2 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5568 times:

This also will be the last time you will ever see 13/31 in use, as it will be decommisioned after 9L/R and 27 L/R are complete.

User currently offlineB6FLL954 From United States of America, joined May 2011, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5320 times:

Quoting John (Reply 3):


A few selected departures will be allowed to use 9L/27R, mainly Condor's FRA flight and possibly the FedEx MD-11's and MD-10's!


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5114 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 2):
Phase 1 is closeing 9L/27R which is going to bump the traffic to 13/31 until July.

Ok, where is a good place to spot for 13/31?


User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5084 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 6):

Nowhere really close by like the other runways. You could follow the approach path I guess. They fly right over my apartment. At least now at Terminal 3 I can plane watch when i'm bored since they'll be right there.


User currently offlinerojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2497 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4957 times:

I was driving 595 yesterday and saw a Westjet 73G landing on 13/31 which is not normal. Kept driving towards I95 south and to Griffin Rd where I could see some maintenance being done to 9L/27R. I then parked at the end of the runway to do some spotting. I'm flying tomorrow from FLL, hopefully it wil be the second time one of my flights uses 13/31

User currently offlinenjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 732 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 20 hours ago) and read 4792 times:

Saw 4 airbus fedex planes on the ground yesterday. Could they possinbly operating an additional flight with an airbus instead of flying the md11/10 in for a while. Usually its 2 airbus and a MD in the evening but this was 4 airbus.


717, 727, 731, 732, 733, 734, 735, 73G, 738, 752, 753, 762, 763, 777, DC9, MD80, DC10, L1011, ERJ, CRJ, ATR, DH8, A300,
User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 17 hours ago) and read 4643 times:

Quoting njdevilsin03 (Reply 9):
Saw 4 airbus fedex planes on the ground yesterday. Could they possinbly operating an additional flight with an airbus instead of flying the md11/10 in for a while. Usually its 2 airbus and a MD in the evening but this was 4 airbus.

Looks like no MD's in the near future:

http://www2.alpa.org/fdx/jumpseat/Default.aspx



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2913 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 16 hours ago) and read 4578 times:

Quoting isp2 (Reply 4):
This also will be the last time you will ever see 13/31 in use, as it will be decommisioned after 9L/R and 27 L/R are complete.

Very good point. I was surprised that the plans would eliminate this runway. Guess there just aren't enough days with a strong enough crosswind component to warrant this runway anymore once the new runway is done?



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User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 4392 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 11):

Rarely, almost never. The winds usually come off the atlantic 95% of the time so they always land on 9L. The last time i've saw them use this runway was when a Delta 738 blew an engine on takeoff, and that was only for a couple landings.


User currently offlinenjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 732 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 7 hours ago) and read 4278 times:

4 airbus and a 727 on the ramp around 130pm today.


717, 727, 731, 732, 733, 734, 735, 73G, 738, 752, 753, 762, 763, 777, DC9, MD80, DC10, L1011, ERJ, CRJ, ATR, DH8, A300,
User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 6 hours ago) and read 4247 times:

Quoting cotparampguy (Reply 12):
Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 11):


Rarely, almost never. The winds usually come off the atlantic 95% of the time so they always land on 9L. The last time i've saw them use this runway was when a Delta 738 blew an engine on takeoff, and that was only for a couple landings.

Are they just going to turn 13/31 into a taxiway??

FX1816


User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months ago) and read 4153 times:

I'm assuming Runway 13/31 won't be closed/eliminated until 2014, after the south runway is completed.

User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

This is what we recieved from Jetblue in an company email.



User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3775 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 11):
Very good point. I was surprised that the plans would eliminate this runway. Guess there just aren't enough days with a strong enough crosswind component to warrant this runway anymore once the new runway is done?

OR would they use it like Miami does with their crosswind runway for some arrivals/departures during peak times?


User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3326 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3664 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 11):
Very good point. I was surprised that the plans would eliminate this runway. Guess there just aren't enough days with a strong enough crosswind component to warrant this runway anymore once the new runway is done?

They have to. The elevated structure of the east end of 9R/27L wouldn't allow any further use of 13/31 as a runway...


http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1282/northeastview.jpg


...Which means:

Quoting FX1816 (Reply 14):
Are they just going to turn 13/31 into a taxiway??


As it appears on this latest rendering, not even that. Looks like most of it is going to be either chopped up and reconfigured, or earthed over:


http://www.broward.org/Airport/FLLair/PublishingImages/Runwaydesign011311web.jpg

Quoting John (Reply 15):
I'm assuming Runway 13/31 won't be closed/eliminated until 2014, after the south runway is completed.

Sooner. Here's a link to the latest phasing plans, indicating sometime between 2012 and 2013 as the site prep begins on that portion of 9R/27L.

And another link to all the current expansion information: FLL Airport Improvements and Renovations (FLLAIR)



"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
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