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FLL Runway Project Starts  
User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 7
Posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6241 times:

Saw on the company e-mails this morning that FLL's runway project is starting today with Phase 1 (3-MAY thru 7-JUL) and rolls through 2014 with Phase 4.

FAA info here:

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/notices/media/SE11001.pdf

Let's hope Mother Nature cooperates and delays don't get too bad during the RWY Closures!

~H81


"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
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User currently offlineJonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 673 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6203 times:

This is for runway 9R right? Cause I heard something about construction on 9L thats going to cause 13 to be in use? (sorry I just cant see the link on my phone right now)

User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6151 times:

Phase 1 is closeing 9L/27R which is going to bump the traffic to 13/31 until July.


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User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5634 times:

I suspect they'll be weight penalties on some of the longer haul departures from 13/31.

User currently offlineisp2 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5449 times:

This also will be the last time you will ever see 13/31 in use, as it will be decommisioned after 9L/R and 27 L/R are complete.

User currently offlineB6FLL954 From United States of America, joined May 2011, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5201 times:

Quoting John (Reply 3):


A few selected departures will be allowed to use 9L/27R, mainly Condor's FRA flight and possibly the FedEx MD-11's and MD-10's!


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4995 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 2):
Phase 1 is closeing 9L/27R which is going to bump the traffic to 13/31 until July.

Ok, where is a good place to spot for 13/31?


User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4965 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 6):

Nowhere really close by like the other runways. You could follow the approach path I guess. They fly right over my apartment. At least now at Terminal 3 I can plane watch when i'm bored since they'll be right there.


User currently offlinerojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2482 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4838 times:

I was driving 595 yesterday and saw a Westjet 73G landing on 13/31 which is not normal. Kept driving towards I95 south and to Griffin Rd where I could see some maintenance being done to 9L/27R. I then parked at the end of the runway to do some spotting. I'm flying tomorrow from FLL, hopefully it wil be the second time one of my flights uses 13/31

User currently offlinenjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 731 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4673 times:

Saw 4 airbus fedex planes on the ground yesterday. Could they possinbly operating an additional flight with an airbus instead of flying the md11/10 in for a while. Usually its 2 airbus and a MD in the evening but this was 4 airbus.


717, 727, 731, 732, 733, 734, 735, 73G, 738, 752, 753, 762, 763, 777, DC9, MD80, DC10, L1011, ERJ, CRJ, ATR, DH8, A300,
User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2507 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4524 times:

Quoting njdevilsin03 (Reply 9):
Saw 4 airbus fedex planes on the ground yesterday. Could they possinbly operating an additional flight with an airbus instead of flying the md11/10 in for a while. Usually its 2 airbus and a MD in the evening but this was 4 airbus.

Looks like no MD's in the near future:

http://www2.alpa.org/fdx/jumpseat/Default.aspx



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4459 times:

Quoting isp2 (Reply 4):
This also will be the last time you will ever see 13/31 in use, as it will be decommisioned after 9L/R and 27 L/R are complete.

Very good point. I was surprised that the plans would eliminate this runway. Guess there just aren't enough days with a strong enough crosswind component to warrant this runway anymore once the new runway is done?



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User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4273 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 11):

Rarely, almost never. The winds usually come off the atlantic 95% of the time so they always land on 9L. The last time i've saw them use this runway was when a Delta 738 blew an engine on takeoff, and that was only for a couple landings.


User currently offlinenjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 731 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4159 times:

4 airbus and a 727 on the ramp around 130pm today.


717, 727, 731, 732, 733, 734, 735, 73G, 738, 752, 753, 762, 763, 777, DC9, MD80, DC10, L1011, ERJ, CRJ, ATR, DH8, A300,
User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4128 times:

Quoting cotparampguy (Reply 12):
Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 11):


Rarely, almost never. The winds usually come off the atlantic 95% of the time so they always land on 9L. The last time i've saw them use this runway was when a Delta 738 blew an engine on takeoff, and that was only for a couple landings.

Are they just going to turn 13/31 into a taxiway??

FX1816


User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4034 times:

I'm assuming Runway 13/31 won't be closed/eliminated until 2014, after the south runway is completed.

User currently offlinecotparampguy From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3893 times:

This is what we recieved from Jetblue in an company email.



User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 11):
Very good point. I was surprised that the plans would eliminate this runway. Guess there just aren't enough days with a strong enough crosswind component to warrant this runway anymore once the new runway is done?

OR would they use it like Miami does with their crosswind runway for some arrivals/departures during peak times?


User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3311 posts, RR: 30
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3545 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 11):
Very good point. I was surprised that the plans would eliminate this runway. Guess there just aren't enough days with a strong enough crosswind component to warrant this runway anymore once the new runway is done?

They have to. The elevated structure of the east end of 9R/27L wouldn't allow any further use of 13/31 as a runway...


http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1282/northeastview.jpg


...Which means:

Quoting FX1816 (Reply 14):
Are they just going to turn 13/31 into a taxiway??


As it appears on this latest rendering, not even that. Looks like most of it is going to be either chopped up and reconfigured, or earthed over:


http://www.broward.org/Airport/FLLair/PublishingImages/Runwaydesign011311web.jpg

Quoting John (Reply 15):
I'm assuming Runway 13/31 won't be closed/eliminated until 2014, after the south runway is completed.

Sooner. Here's a link to the latest phasing plans, indicating sometime between 2012 and 2013 as the site prep begins on that portion of 9R/27L.

And another link to all the current expansion information: FLL Airport Improvements and Renovations (FLLAIR)



"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
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