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IAH To Get New United Signage May 15th  
User currently offlineRising From United States of America, joined May 2010, 269 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6146 times:

According to the Houston Airport System, United, reportedly, will begin installing new United branding signs throughout the airport on May 15th to facilitate the start of Continental Airlines, Inc.'s use of the trade/brand name "United Airlines." Chicago O'Hare is expected around the same time to begin the process.

Hopefully someone will get some pictures.

Source: Houston Chronicle, May 4th, 2011. This is a "print only" article, so I cannot link it from the Chronicle website. You can find it however at AirportBusiness.com under "Top of the News." Go to the article titled "United Continental Holdings is steadily unifying its technology, workforce, and fleet amid this year's array of challenges." Thanks!

[Edited 2011-05-04 20:13:58]


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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3681 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5918 times:

Quoting Rising (Thread starter):
This is a "print only" article

Do you know what page? I can't seem to find it.


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

Quoting Rising (Thread starter):
According to the Houston Airport System, United, reportedly, will begin installing new United branding signs throughout the airport on May 15th to facilitate the start of Continental Airlines, Inc.'s use of the trade/brand name "United Airlines." Chicago O'Hare is expected around the same time to begin the process.

That will be a very very sad day here in Houston....guess I'll have to change my travel plans and be back before the 15th!!  



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User currently offlinemcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1448 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5067 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 2):
That will be a very very sad day here in Houston....guess I'll have to change my travel plans and be back before the 15th!!

Good Grief. It is just a name. The logo, paint job and everything are all CAL. The employees you meet after the 15th are the same employees you met on the 14th. The merger has taken place, it is happening and it is time to either give it support or get out of the way.


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3716 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5019 times:

I bet that the signage changes at the PMCO hubs like IAH will be simple: just replace "Continental Airlines" with "UNITED". Much like how CO ditched the SkyTeam logos when they joined Star Alliance.

PMUA hubs, OTOH, will be a different story.



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User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4225 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4684 times:
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Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 4):
I bet that the signage changes at the PMCO hubs like IAH will be simple: just replace "Continental Airlines" with "UNITED". Much like how CO ditched the SkyTeam logos when they joined Star Alliance.

PMUA hubs, OTOH, will be a different story.

At IAD pretty much all of Concourses C and D will need be to be repainted and re-logoed as well as the whole south end of the main terminal.


User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4225 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4422 times:
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Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 5):
At IAD pretty much all of Concourses C and D will need be to be repainted and re-logoed as well as the whole south end of the main terminal.


Geez, I forgot about Concourse A Gates 1 to 6 (the ground-level commuter gates) and gates A23-31 (the Continental jetbridge gates).

Also, Continental's ticket counters are at the north end of the Main terminal.

But that's some *very valuable* real estate
for which I'm sure someone is willing to pay a king's ransom.   


User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2341 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4350 times:

I'll be going through IAH on 31 May as I make my way to Army Basic Training at CAE. Will all the signs be changed by then? If not, how long should it take to complete the transformation?


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User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3915 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4263 times:

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 5):
At IAD pretty much all of Concourses C and D will need be to be repainted and re-logoed as well as the whole south end of the main terminal.

I would think this kind of project would have a lower priority than CO stations, where the name is "wrong", I gues they will use the same counters and podiums, just putting "UNITED" where "Continental" used to be? Electronic boards are obviously an easy change that can be done in an instant. In PMUA areas the name is "right" and that is all most customers will really notice.HNL still has UA signage in the 'rainbow' style!



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User currently offlinetpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3928 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 2):
That will be a very very sad day here in Houston....guess I'll have to change my travel plans and be back before the 15th!!

I 1000% agree, my brother works for DL, but we all grew up CO and he said he was so bummed last time he went thru EWR and all the planes that said UNITED on them. For many people CO isn't just a brand or label, it is spirit and something with real meaning. Maybe someday we will feel the same about UA, but even my Widget loving brother in DL's GO (read HQ) says "CO will always be my 'first girl'" And so she will be for many others.........


User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4357 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3823 times:

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 9):

I 1000% agree, my brother works for DL, but we all grew up CO and he said he was so bummed last time he went thru EWR and all the planes that said UNITED on them. For many people CO isn't just a brand or label, it is spirit and something with real meaning. Maybe someday we will feel the same about UA, but even my Widget loving brother in DL's GO (read HQ) says "CO will always be my 'first girl'" And so she will be for many others.........

I could not agree more.


It is a very sad day. After 24 years, I will always be Continental.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3646 times:

Quoting mcdu (Reply 3):
Good Grief. It is just a name. The logo, paint job and everything are all CAL. The employees you meet after the 15th are the same employees you met on the 14th.



Yep, just a name to some and to many others it is a sign of our hometown airline that we've watched struggle through bankruptcy twice in the 80's-90's time line to being one of the better options for travel in the air. The employees that I know for CAL cover just about every aspect of the airline and there are not many who are happy as they were even 18 months ago, and that also is sad. It's more than a name dude, it is a culture.

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 9):
I 1000% agree, my brother works for DL, but we all grew up CO and he said he was so bummed last time he went thru EWR and all the planes that said UNITED on them. For many people CO isn't just a brand or label, it is spirit and something with real meaning. Maybe someday we will feel the same about UA, but even my Widget loving brother in DL's GO (read HQ) says "CO will always be my 'first girl'" And so she will be for many others.........

  

Quoting Max Q (Reply 10):
I could not agree more.

It is a very sad day. After 24 years, I will always be Continental.



Excellent, and nothing against UA, but in my 26 years at IAH it's been Continental and a great amount of pride watching them evolve if I may take a phrase from an excellent book, "From Worst to First".  



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User currently offlineSplitterz From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3620 times:

It's about time honestly. Re-branding is necessary for a more unified product. Honestly this should've been started a while ago.

User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3620 times:

It WAS a great book - despite being the worst written book, possibly ever. I have it on my coffee table.

NS


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2391 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3513 times:

Well, I'll buck the trend around here and embrace the change. The industry is evolving, and the old UA/old CO ways of doing business are seriously threatened. I love the prospects of the most diversified route network in the business, a great fleet, and investment in the product. There are a lot of outstanding people working on both sides of the "fence", and I look forward to seeing everyone on the same team in the near future.

I'm not going to say that CO/UA have the best employees in the business (how could you ever prove that), but there's no doubt in my mind that the people at new UA have what it takes to make the airline a great place to work. "This too shall pass..."


User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3271 times:
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Quoting tpaewr (Reply 9):

I 1000% agree, my brother works for DL, but we all grew up CO and he said he was so bummed last time he went thru EWR and all the planes that said UNITED on them. For many people CO isn't just a brand or label, it is spirit and something with real meaning. Maybe someday we will feel the same about UA, but even my Widget loving brother in DL's GO (read HQ) says "CO will always be my 'first girl'" And so she will be for many others.........
Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 11):
Yep, just a name to some and to many others it is a sign of our hometown airline that we've watched struggle through bankruptcy twice in the 80's-90's time line to being one of the better options for travel in the air. The employees that I know for CAL cover just about every aspect of the airline and there are not many who are happy as they were even 18 months ago, and that also is sad. It's more than a name dude, it is a culture.


   I appreciate what you're saying here. Being another airline nerd, I used to fly CO LAX-ORD via IAH. I didn't mind the connection as the service was far superior to that of UA in all aspects. I have great admiration and respect for the CO employees, in particular @ IAH, as their kindness, helpfulness goes above and beyond just about anyone and every other airline. At the same time, I think it's sad that many of the things that allowed CO to standout among the legacies is now gone and became the "same" as UA.


User currently offlinemcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1448 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2618 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 11):
The employees that I know for CAL cover just about every aspect of the airline and there are not many who are happy as they were even 18 months ago, and that also is sad. It's more than a name dude, it is a culture.

I have to ask what has changed for them in 18 months? There is very little that has changed as far as company policy and work rules. In fact NO ONE has taken a pay cut and the functions of the airline are still to be phased in with Single Op Certificate. I suspect the employees in IAH are working for the same manager today that they were 18 months ago. So if this is a culture change as you describe it, and no culture has changed. Then how can they be unhappy? Are they predisposed to being unhappy?

Here is the key. If you are an employee and you are not happy with the merger then you are free to seek other jobs. As I mentioned before the merger happened. It is not stopping and the CAL folks will wind up seeing some of the fewest changes. So a person has some options on how they move forward in their lives. They can be miserable just because they want to, or they can do the best job they can like they did on May 14th.

As a legacy UAL employee I hated to see the tulip disappear. However, I prefer to stand behind the airline and my co-workers to make this a great place to work versus moaning and groaning over the tulip. In the end the small things are not worth making yourself miserable over. But to the a.net group that is what they seem to do best.


User currently offlinetpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Quoting mcdu (Reply 16):
I have to ask what has changed for them in 18 months? There is very little that has changed as far as company policy and work rules. In fact NO ONE has taken a pay cut and the functions of the airline are still to be phased in with Single Op Certificate. I suspect the employees in IAH are working for the same manager today that they were 18 months ago. So if this is a culture change as you describe it, and no culture has changed. Then how can they be unhappy? Are they predisposed to being unhappy?

Here is the key. If you are an employee and you are not happy with the merger then you are free to seek other jobs. As I mentioned before the merger happened. It is not stopping and the CAL folks will wind up seeing some of the fewest changes. So a person has some options on how they move forward in their lives. They can be miserable just because they want to, or they can do the best job they can like they did on May 14th.

As a legacy UAL employee I hated to see the tulip disappear. However, I prefer to stand behind the airline and my co-workers to make this a great place to work versus moaning and groaning over the tulip. In the end the small things are not worth making yourself miserable over. But to the a.net group that is what they seem to do best.

I was gonna go ballistic on you....but your last paragraph stopped me. I respect your loss as a UA-er. The 'tulip' et al, but trust me for the CAL kids this is everything! Yet, we have to march on like good soldiers. No one at UA seems to 'get' the CO 'esprit de corps', which makes it all the more, seem like we are gonna lose that forever. Please respect our loss too.



I at least find solace in the fact, tens of thousands of people feel the same way I do


User currently offlinerobo65 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2527 times:

Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 7):
I'll be going through IAH on 31 May as I make my way to Army Basic Training at CAE. Will all the signs be changed by then? If not, how long should it take to complete the transformation?

First of all congratulations and I wish you the best of luck in your future military career. I appreciate your service to our country. The signage will start to be replaced on May 15th and with you travelling through Houston on May 31st I would guess that most if not all should be replaced by then.


User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3212 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2509 times:

I will be transiting through IAH on my way from TPA to SJC on the 15th May evening. Should be fun watching the repainting etc. in operation  


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User currently offlinemcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1448 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

Quoting tpaewr (Reply 17):
No one at UA seems to 'get' the CO 'esprit de corps', which makes it all the more, seem like we are gonna lose that forever.

If you have had face to face contact with someone at united that doesn't exhibit this my apologies. I wouldn't judge all of UA by the negative board posters. In my opinion we do have a good group of employees that have made great sacrifices to help the airline survive. The effect of our sacrifices were getting the profits restored huge changes in pay and work rules all to make the airline better.

We both lose some identity but we should be glad we all have a "next" chapter. No reason the New UA isn't going to be as good as the CAL you love. It is up to us as individuals to make it great. Let's pull on the same end of the rope and make it better.


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

Makes me wonder about EWR. Any word on that?

Quoting Splitterz (Reply 12):
It's about time honestly. Re-branding is necessary for a more unified product. Honestly this should've been started a while ago.

Absolutely. Why it hasn't been done sooner is beyond me. They are really taking their sweet old time with the integration.

Quoting mcdu (Reply 16):
I suspect the employees in IAH are working for the same manager today that they were 18 months ago. So if this is a culture change as you describe it, and no culture has changed. Then how can they be unhappy? Are they predisposed to being unhappy?

Legacy UA employees have a lot more to be pissed about, you know, with getting their image stripped and all. Not a whole lot has changed thus far for CO employees.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2295 times:

Quoting mcdu (Reply 16):
I have to ask what has changed for them in 18 months?



Start off with smisek, enough said there. Then the reducing of the product they offered the passenger which the employees of CAL I know took great pride in providing the customer. The adopting of some UA flight ops procedures whether good or bad is changing the day to day work employees have done for years.

Quoting mcdu (Reply 16):
There is very little that has changed as far as company policy and work rules.



I'm sure you'll agree that most people just love change or even just the mention of an upcoming change.  
Quoting mcdu (Reply 16):
As a legacy UAL employee I hated to see the tulip disappear. However, I prefer to stand behind the airline and my co-workers to make this a great place to work versus moaning and groaning over the tulip. In the end the small things are not worth making yourself miserable over.



I agree with you completely that you and your old/new co-workers will most likely strive to make the merged airline a great place to work, and I only hope as a passenger we see that spirit onboard the flights. The fact still remains however, it will be sad to see those Continental signs go away just as it has been to see the name change on a huge number of their aircraft just as you mention you "hated to see the tulip disappear".

It is quite possible the new United will become the airline all hope it becomes and living near IAH it is my hope that happens as travel options will only get better. My hat is off to all who WILL make it work while my sad face will appear next weekend when I hop off that CAL B739 and see the Continental signs gone.



Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2278 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 22):
Start off with smisek, enough said there. Then the reducing of the product they offered the passenger which the employees of CAL I know took great pride in providing the customer.

You mean a d-grade cheeseburger on a flight from EWR-LAX? Honestly, the free meals weren't that great anyway and the buy on board menus look like a much needed improvement. But CO needs to watch the catering up front on domestic flights. I feel that it's been suffering for a while based on trip reports.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 23):
You mean a d-grade cheeseburger on a flight from EWR-LAX?



No not really....the In-Out-Burger catering was much better!   

More thinking of the clean blankets only in the first class overhead bin above Row 1 and the bag fees that are now pretty much an industry standard. But you hi the nail right on the head here:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 23):
But CO needs to watch the catering up front on domestic flights. I feel that it's been suffering for a while based on trip reports.



They certainly do. I've opted out numerous times on recent flights and avoided the hot soggy sandwiches, the sodium loaded soups, the incredibly healthy chicken wraps (NO) etc., but do miss the cookies on the IAH-SEA and IAH-SFO flights that have gone away also. Had one flight attendant on a recent trip back from the northwest to IAH tell me he was almost going to bring his own cookie dough and bake some for first class. Now that is what I'm talking about.  



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