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Qatar Airways Order Of 60 Planes At Paris Air Show  
User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2974 posts, RR: 24
Posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 17298 times:

Qatar Airways is negotiating with airbus to place an order of 50 A320neo and 10-20 A380 at CDG. I suspect it will be 10 firm and 10 optional.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...c1f41b1dbc6694f50f2e37c1bbd5ca8.d1


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User currently onlinebehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4772 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 16903 times:

QR should seriously consider ordering a lot more of A321 NEOs as by the time they get delivered in 6 years time, the A320 will be very small for a lot of their regional routes within a 5 hour flying radius of DOH airport!

User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13004 posts, RR: 100
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 16214 times:
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No C-series?   

Quoting behramjee (Reply 1):
the A320 will be very small for a lot of their regional routes within a 5 hour flying radius of DOH airport!

Even better for QR, the A320/A321NEO opens up routes a little further.

I consider the A321NEO to have a 2400nm 'great economic range with winds.' That is quite a large area from DOH.  http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=2400nm%40doh

So either QR will need to order more A32xNEO, or some other aircraft. C-series please!   

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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12431 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14901 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 2):
No C-series?

My thoughts exactly, but I'm reading reports that QR is seeking an increase in its frequencies to Canada, so I guess AAB has a "quid quo pro" in his mind ...

Still, a huge disappointment to Bombardier anyway.


User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14408 times:

Quoting ojas (Thread starter):
Qatar Airways Order Of 60 Planes At Paris Air Show

All I can do is    that this will comethrou at Paris Air Show, bring on those A320-321NEO´s & A380s!

//Mike     



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User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13675 times:

2011 will be the year of the A32x NEO without any doubt.

Hopefully Airbus can manage to keep the new DL and the new UA as loyal customers for the A32x family.
Both should have a demand of 100 A321NEOs alone.

Additionally i still hope for an order for the A321NEO from TUI as replacement of the B752s.


User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1207 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 11351 times:

Quoting behramjee (Reply 1):
QR should seriously consider ordering a lot more of A321 NEOs as by the time they get delivered in 6 years time, the A320 will be very small for a lot of their regional routes within a 5 hour flying radius of DOH airport!

I have no insight in their intentions but I think they would vote against the A321 for some routes because of its range. They need the range of the A320 on many of the intended routes I think.

[Edited 2011-05-06 13:59:42]


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User currently offlineastuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 10008 posts, RR: 96
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 11040 times:
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Quoting lightsaber (Reply 2):
Even better for QR, the A320/A321NEO opens up routes a little further.

A little?

With meaningful payloads, the A32X NEO's will outrange even the CS300ER by a large margin.

Quoting Navigator (Reply 6):
I have no insight in their intentions but I think they would vote against the A321 for some routes because of its range. They need the range of the A320 on many of the intended routes I think.

Although I've been told that Airbus are advertising the A321NEO with 100Nm more range than the A320NEO

Rgds


User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1207 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 10980 times:

Quoting astuteman (Reply 7):
Although I've been told that Airbus are advertising the A321NEO with 100Nm more range than the A320NEO

The normal A321 compares to the normal A320 in a different way when it comes to range. What you say comes as a major surprise considering performance of the planes in use now, do you have any source? If mods are distributed evenly the difference would be the same on the NEO types as it is now.

If Airbus would put the same efforts on both types when it comes to range the longest range version of the A320 would typically have more range. So there will of course be an option to get A320 NEO with more range than any A321 can do. Am I wrong?

[Edited 2011-05-06 14:13:04]

[Edited 2011-05-06 14:14:53]


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User currently offlineastuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 10008 posts, RR: 96
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 10661 times:
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Quoting Navigator (Reply 8):
The normal A321 compares to the normal A320 in a different way when it comes to range

The Range/Payloads in the Airbus ACAP look remarkably similar, I have to say (with the A321 payloads being bigger of course).

That said, I took the imlplication of the numbers that I've been told (and not from an official source, so treat with the approporiate caution) that Airbus might be doing a little bit more to the A321...

I suspect you will share with me an enthusiasm to see the official range/payloads pblished for the -NEO series..  

Rgds


User currently offlinetropical From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8587 times:

While the A320 part of the order might be worth more money, I'm finding the 10-20 A380 order far more exciting myself...

User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13004 posts, RR: 100
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8405 times:
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Quoting astuteman (Reply 7):
With meaningful payloads, the A32X NEO's will outrange even the CS300ER by a large margin.

Yep. I was thinking versus their current A320 fleet (assuming up-gauging).

Quoting astuteman (Reply 9):
that Airbus might be doing a little bit more to the A321...

There is tremendous interent in a TATL A321... So if Airbus can do it, they will.   

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User currently onlinepar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7135 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7876 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 11):
There is tremendous interent in a TATL A321

Not from A.Net airways, we hate single aisle a/c across the pond, see the 757 complaint threads  


User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1207 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5795 times:

Quoting astuteman (Reply 9):
I suspect you will share with me an enthusiasm to see the official range/payloads pblished for the -NEO series..

I would like to have a look at that. I suspect range to be an issue for Qatar. I trust what you are saying and I will have a look myself. It is no use having an A321 if you can not reach many destinations without blocking seats to save fuel. Then the A320 is a better option and it also comes with lower fees given its lower MTOW. But then again I will have a look at this.



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User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1207 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5310 times:

Quoting par13del (Reply 12):
Not from A.Net airways, we hate single aisle a/c across the pond, see the 757 complaint threads

The DC-8 super sixty series and 707:s flew the Atlantic with single aisle for years without complaints   I have been going in a DC-8 for 10,5 hours to Seattle with SAS and it was just fine. I see no problem with the 757 as long as the seats and comfort is OK...



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