ACdreamliner From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 515 posts, RR: 1 Posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5265 times:
As per the title. If/when Scotland becomes independent following todays landslide from the nationalists, what will Scottish registered aircraft be prefixed with (i.e. G-**** for British aircraft).
SXI899 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2008, 194 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5055 times:
I'd expect it to be in the VS- series, as that callsign series is assigned by the ITU to the UK.
Pretty much all national registration prefixes are based on that country's callsign series.
gingersnap From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 854 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5030 times:
Quoting SXI899 (Reply 5):
I'd expect it to be in the VS- series, as that callsign series is assigned by the ITU to the UK.
Pretty much all national registration prefixes are based on that country's callsign series.
If that happened, I expect Virgin Atlantic to re-register their birds in Scotland
Birdwatching From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3573 posts, RR: 52 Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4952 times:
I'd change every call sign in the world to the ISO standards. Would make it transparent to the passenger where the aircraft is registered. So a German aircraft would be DE-XXXX instead of D-XXXX, a US aircraft US-XXXX instead of NXXXX, and so on.
I once proposed this here in the forum, and most people (especially from the US) were throwing fits
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noelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4930 times:
It would not stay as G-, remember Ireland has EI and Isle of Man currently has M-.
I would imagine they would stick with G- initially, but as and when they get their own aircraft registry (not necessarily linked to independence as aircraft could remain UK registered in the interim), they would probably get AL-XXX or AB-XXX.
Chamonix From France, joined Mar 2011, 295 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4803 times:
It will happen.
The Soviet Union broke up so why not the United Kingdom?
Scotland's entire legal system is codified with the Napoleonic Procurator Fiscal.
It has a different education system as well.
If people want their independece,ipso facto,let them have it.
After all,England is fed up with subsidising the regions.
exFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4703 times:
Quoting aidoair (Reply 1): Would most likely stay G- as wouldn't it mean they are not part of the UK but still part of the British Isles?
"G-" is for "Great Britain", not the "British Isles".
Quoting Chamonix (Reply 2): Scotland = SC
Wales = WL
England = EN
Northern Ireland = NR
Even if Scotland were to become independent, the rest of the UK would remain united. And if Wales were to eventually become independent, and NI reunified with Ireland, England would likely retain the "G" prefix.
Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 7): I'd change every call sign in the world to the ISO standards. Would make it transparent to the passenger where the aircraft is registered.
The vast majority of passengers don't give a rat's where the aircraft is registered, so why bother?
Quoting SXI899 (Reply 5): I'd expect it to be in the VS- series, as that callsign series is assigned by the ITU to the UK.
The "Vx" prefixes were used for various parts of the British Empire; some former parts of the Empire have elected to retain their "Vx" prefix (e.g. Australia, Belize, etc.), some have elected to change, but since the Empire no longer exists there's no reason to presume Scotland would receive a "V" series prefix.
vhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1383 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3683 times:
doesn't the N have something to do with an old radio code for Navy?
As for Scotland I don't know much how the G register works ie. can you apply for anything from G-AAAA to G-ZZZZ excluding anything with a Q? it they have unallocated blocks they can probably assign a block temporally for Scotland ie. G-SCxx until they get their own or if not maybe they could allow G-Qxxx for Scotland as long as it's clear it's a Q and not an O. Much like how Australia and New Zealand had G-AUxx and G-NZxx before VH- and ZK- were assigned.
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csavel From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3518 times:
Better yet, what would ATC call Air Scotland? Sheep1? Haggis 1? Would they have "The flying shephard" on their planes, like KLM has "The flying Dutchman?"
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FlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1965 posts, RR: 3 Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2548 times:
The radio call signs B-, G-, M-, VP-, VQ- and VR- were allocated to the UK. Of all these VR- remains available (VR-H was Hong Kong), so an independent Scotland could logically either continue to use G- (with the CAA administrating) or be allocated the VR- series.
But I think it will be a while yet before it would be needed. A SNP victory in the Scottish elections does not necessarily mean independence is the next step.
Jalap From Belgium, joined Oct 2007, 349 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2532 times:
Quoting Chamonix (Reply 2):
Quebec = QB
Scotland = SC
Wales = WL
England = EN
Northern Ireland = NR
Most likely those will all be different. There are few new countries that get a logical prefix.
Slovenia tried, they had SL- for a while but ended up with S5-. Croatia got 9A-, Belarus EW-, Macedonia Z3-, ...
There are a few exceptions, Estonia got ES- and Uzbekistan got UK-.
And to add to that list, Flanders would not get FL-
noelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2435 times:
Quoting Chamonix (Reply 2): Scotland = SC
Wales = WL
Northern Ireland = NR
Scotland and Wales would never get these prefixes, as the prefix would be based on the country's name in their native tongue. Hence why Scotland would be AB- or AL- (for Alba), and Wales would be CY- or CM- (Cymru). Northern Ireland on the other hand would not become independent, rather the only possible change there would be if they were incorporated into Eire which already has EI (highly unlikely scenario).
But as Jalap mentions above very rarely do countries get 'logical' prefixes these days.
26 gkirk: It'll be 2015 before anything happens anyway, but I'd imagine the referendum will return a "no" vote. As for: It's actually the other way round. The S
27 SXI899: It's reasonable enough considering that the VS callsign prefix is one of the prefixes still assigned to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and North
28 YokoTsuno: The meaning of the prefix depends on the thread Country Code In AC Registration Numbers (by YokoTsuno Apr 30 2011 in Tech Ops)
29 richardw: Did the Air Scotia aircraft have registrations in The High Life? Or perhaps they weren't visible.
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