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Interesting Wikipedia Page On Non-Stop Routes...  
User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3003 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 18857 times:

Hi Guys

There are regularly threads on here about the longest and shortest routes, what aircraft/airline flies them, etc, on here and thought this Wikipeadia page I came across could be of interest. to the many...

It covers everything possible, about these questions...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-stop_flight

I read it and found it very interesting...

Telling you about the longest Ultra Long Haul Routes, shortest routes, longest routes operated by each aircraft type, etc...

As it is Wikipedia, if you think there is information missing on there or need correcting, why not update the page concerned as this is a beauty of Wikipedia.

30 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 18484 times:

Interesting when you compare the first two. EWR to Singapore is only 1.5 hours longer than LAX to Singapore. East-West distance doesn't matter when you are, for all intents and purposes, going NORTH!


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User currently offlineYYZAMS From Canada, joined Feb 2011, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 17285 times:

Great post! Hopefully this will stop all those other "questions" that seem to pop up about this topic ever 3 or 4 days.

User currently offlineferminbrif From Venezuela, joined Dec 2010, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 17058 times:

very interesting indeed, so the longest from europe is AF-406 CDG-SCL 11652km on B-772ER......

User currently offline328JET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 16879 times:

Quoting ferminbrif (Reply 3):
very interesting indeed, so the longest from europe is AF-406 CDG-SCL 11652km on B-772ER......

Which really raises the question why modern airplanes are planned to have a range greater 14000Km...

 


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8752 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 16776 times:
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Quoting ferminbrif (Reply 3):
very interesting indeed, so the longest from europe is AF-406 CDG-SCL 11652km on B-772ER......

The CDG-SCL route is the longest route in the AF/KL network. FRA-SCL used to be the longest route in LH's network before LH dropped SCL as a destination, (LH used to operate FRA-SCL non-stop with the A346).


User currently offlinewn700driver From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 15997 times:

Quoting YYZAMS (Reply 2):

Great post! Hopefully this will stop all those other "questions" that seem to pop up about this topic ever 3 or 4 days

Why would you want to do that? This is an Airline Enthusiast web site! I know you're going to see a lot of "stupid" questions here (esp if you are used to posting regularly in Tech/Ops), but some of the most interesting discussions often come out of these. I'd hope we're not stifling that to easily these days... Perhaps we are. Anyway, on that note...

Great topic!


User currently offlinejah718 From Ireland, joined Sep 2009, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14344 times:

Interesting to see that the longest flight currently operated by the 772LR is only 10 minutes longer than the longest flight operated by a 773ER. Clearly not being used to its full potential. Great link by the way.

User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 811 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13790 times:

Quoting jah718 (Reply 7):
Interesting to see that the longest flight currently operated by the 772LR is only 10 minutes longer than the longest flight operated by a 773ER. Clearly not being used to its full potential. Great link by the way.

That must not be true. I assume that the 77L can operate it's longest route with a much higher payload (measured in percentage to its maximum payload) compared to the other 777 variants.
So the 77W probably operates its longest flight payload restricted, why the 77L is much closer to maximum payload.


User currently offlineIrishpower From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13760 times:

Why is it that the flight times advertised are always longer than the actual flight time? Are they talking worst case scenario) with headwinds? Are they talking the time it takes to board the plane and then get off?

I have flown 3 flights on the top 30 list and on all of them the flight time was 30-75 minutes less than advertised.


User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13039 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13675 times:

Quoting Irishpower (Reply 9):
Why is it that the flight times advertised are always longer than the actual flight time? Are they talking worst case scenario) with headwinds? Are they talking the time it takes to board the plane and then get off?

I have flown 3 flights on the top 30 list and on all of them the flight time was 30-75 minutes less than advertised.



Some reasons: To allow sufficient time for frequent delays at certain busy airports due to departures/arrival at peak times or common weather issues that can cause delays, so enought time must be built in for such events.


User currently offlineTruemanQLD From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 1512 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12427 times:

Interesting to note on MEL-LAX with QF that the A380 is 25mins slower than the 747-400ER and 5mins slower than the V Australia 777-300ER.

Also, while DXB-SYD is further than DXB-BNE, DXB-BNE takes 25min longer. Obviously due to winds but still interesting.


User currently offlineAA623BDLSJU From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 354 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12031 times:

Very interesting page, indeed. I'm amazed by all this information and yet womder how much is accurate. Needless to say, I love Wikipedia.

User currently offlineogre727 From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 718 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11216 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 5):
Quoting ferminbrif (Reply 3):
very interesting indeed, so the longest from europe is AF-406 CDG-SCL 11652km on B-772ER......

The CDG-SCL route is the longest route in the AF/KL network. FRA-SCL used to be the longest route in LH's network before LH dropped SCL as a destination, (LH used to operate FRA-SCL non-stop with the A346).


I thought LH stopped either in Eze or Gru...

Is mad-scl iberia's longest flight?



Sigh
User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 873 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10260 times:

LH never operated FRA-SCL nonstop, at least not on a scheduled basis. There was always an intermediate stop in either GRU or EZE.


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User currently offlineB737900 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10076 times:
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Very interesting topic. With regards to the shortest scheduled flight. I have a nominee. Molokai Air Tours might qualify for one of the shortest. While visiting Molokai, Hawaii we booked a flight from Kalaupapa (the leper colony) to Hoolehau (MKK). Both airports are on Molokai. We planned to hike down to the colony and fly out. You could fly either direction or r/t. The agent said that the flight would be about 7 minutes!! Let's go. Unfortunately the flight was cancelled due to high winds so we did not hike down. After looking at the Wikipedia I didn't see this flight. Any comments on why?


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User currently offlinelaxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9594 times:

I think that is very cool, and I am not that big of a Wiki fan. The general theme seems to be flights from the East or West coast of the United States to Asia and Africa. Very good find.

laxboeingman



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User currently offlinegoblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9006 times:

Very interesting. I posted a topic a while back similar to this and this was the link someone on here gave me. It kind of surprises me that the EWR-SIN route goes to EWR and not JFK.


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User currently offlineworldliner From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 8602 times:

I real like this page and i view it from time to time, i would not like to be on a 737-700 for 7 hours 18 minutes! Wow!


@777Worldliner
User currently offlineBthebest From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7947 times:

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 11):
nteresting to note on MEL-LAX with QF that the A380 is 25mins slower than the 747-400ER

747 is faster than the average commercial jet due to the hump.


User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 879 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7644 times:

For A321 I thought that non-stop Bmed/BMI flights from London to Bishkek or Almaty were the longest, pushing the limits? Also the previous A321 flight operated by Air Ivoire non-stop from Abidjan to Paris-Orly was longer?

User currently offlinepeterjohns From Germany, joined Jan 2009, 202 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7553 times:

Quoting Bthebest (Reply 19):

I believe you possibly don´t have a degree in aerodynamics??!!  


User currently offlineWarszawa From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 727 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7521 times:

Quoting Bthebest (Reply 19):

747 is faster than the average commercial jet due to the hump.

Uh, no. It's due to the swept wing design.



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User currently offlineBNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 396 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7103 times:

I agree that this Wiki page is quite interesting.

Also, for those that have not seen it, here is a link to a very comprehensive list of the World's 100 longest flights that is updated at least monthly: World's Longest Flights, 2nd Edition (by yeogeo Mar 27 2011 in Aviation Polls)


User currently onlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4696 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6467 times:
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CIs LHR-TPE is longer than the LX ZRH-HKG showing for longest A343

25 comorin : I thought it was the hump too - area rule.
26 irelayer : Hey thanks for saying this! It is lost on a lot of people. -IR
27 GSPflyer : It surprises me too, since the article states the route began in 2004 (since Wiki can be wrong, can anyone confirm this is correct?). They probably w
28 huxrules : I was looking for the shortest flight for Continental. They didn't have one listed - I'm guessing between IAH and AUS or CLL. However Continental used
29 Viscount724 : Many routes that don't involve Europe are much longer than CDG-SCL. Europe's geographic location minimizes the need for ultra longhaul aircraft by ca
30 Post contains images TruemanQLD : Unless they make one that can get from Europe to SYD/MEL all year long in both directions
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