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CX 330 Engine Fire / Emergency Landing  
User currently offlinedon From Japan, joined Jun 2003, 274 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 19860 times:

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking...ngapore/Story/STIStory_669166.html



A Cathay Pacific passenger plane made an emergency landing at Changi Airport on Monday after one of its engines caught fire.

The A330 flight, which was enroute to Jakarta, had to turn back to Singapore after it experienced engine trouble shortly after takeoff at about 1am.

No one was injured.

Changi Airport Group spokesman Ivan Tan confirmed the incident.

It is unclear how many passengers were on board but the A330 aircraft can take about 200 people.

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User currently offlinerichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4289 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 19810 times:

Quoting don (Thread starter):

It is unclear how many passengers were on board but the A330 aircraft can take about 200 people.

I guess it is sort of irrelevant if the plane landed safely and there were no reported injuries. Thank goodness that is the case.

This sounds like a serious incident but also one that is relatively routine. Engine failures, while extremely rare, are considered routine and pilots are constantly prepared for an engine-out situation. By itself, that's not news (although I'd just as well prefer not to experience such an event.) An engine "fire", depending on exactly what that means, could obviously be a lot more serious.



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User currently offlineCCA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2002, 841 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 19539 times:

Looks like it was a engine stall.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ck-after-engine-stall-warning.html



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User currently offlinePolymerPlane From United States of America, joined May 2006, 991 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 18792 times:

Quoting richierich (Reply 1):
An engine "fire", depending on exactly what that means, could obviously be a lot more serious.
Quoting CCA (Reply 2):
Looks like it was a engine stall.

Looks like a little bit more serious as the emergency service had to put out flame from the engine, according to cathay's statement.



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17118 posts, RR: 66
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 18530 times:

Quoting PolymerPlane (Reply 3):
Looks like a little bit more serious as the emergency service had to put out flame from the engine, according to cathay's statement.

That's not confirmed. "Sparks" were reported. Haven't seen a mention of fire.

Also the emergency services will probably pour on the water at the least indication of danger. Better safe than charred to a crisp and all that.

NOTE THE FOLLOWING IS SPECULATION: Sparks might be from a bird strike bending some blades, for example.

[Edited 2011-05-16 03:16:59]


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User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3658 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 18412 times:

Well done the BBC, mentioned a CX A330 had made an emergency landing, then showed passengers disembarking from a CX 744.

User currently offlineBostonBeau From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17922 times:

NBC in the USA just said "one of the 4 engines on the Airbus 330" caught fire  

User currently offlineTLHFLA From United States of America, joined May 2003, 593 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17926 times:

NBC News/Today Show just reported that some passengers saw sparks coming from one of the FOUR engines. Must have been a special A330 involved.


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User currently offlinePBIflyguy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 248 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17853 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 5):
Well done the BBC, mentioned a CX A330 had made an emergency landing, then showed passengers disembarking from a CX 744.

NBC morning news kept talking about the A330 in their news piece, then the newscaster ( Mike Taibii) referred to the A330 as the " pride of the Boeing fleet "


User currently offlineWoof From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17852 times:

What??? So 2 engines fell off and one of the remaining 2 caught fire? This sounds like an event that will send shockwaves throughout the industry.

User currently offlinepilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17750 times:

The pax was drunk, therefore he saw two of everything out the window  


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User currently offlineWN787 From United States of America, joined May 2011, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17698 times:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05...cific-emergency-landing-singapore/

136 Pax. Does that seem light for an A330?

Why does the media always have to refer back to some prior incident whenever something new happens?



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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17703 times:

Quoting BostonBeau (Reply 6):
NBC in the USA just said "one of the 4 engines on the Airbus 330" caught fire

What's the problem?...two trents, a coffee maker and a power potty= 4 engines... 


User currently offlinejpiddink From Netherlands, joined Feb 2009, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17701 times:

Cathay now has an official statement confirming that indeed it was a A330 with two engines   .
Sparks were reported from engine no 2 on flight CX 715 destined for Jakarta.

Full statement on http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...ac987ff210VgnVCM62000007d21c39____


User currently offlinebtblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 578 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17180 times:
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Another news story here - with pictures:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rbus-A330-engine-catches-fire.html



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User currently offlineJetBlue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1463 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 17103 times:

Just saw the coverage on Good Morning America, looks like some (or most) of the passengers had their life jackets on (and it wasn't inflated, listening to the safety video comes handy here)

Most of the pictured were elderly women in tears, I'm glad they're all okay.

BTW, they used the airstairs to disembark passengers off the A/C, what is the rule of using the emergency slides? Who decides if it'll be used in an emergency or not??

 



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User currently offlineoldtimer From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 191 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 15800 times:

Quoting JetBlue777 (Reply 15):
BTW, they used the airstairs to disembark passengers off the A/C, what is the rule of using the emergency slides? Who decides if it'll be used in an emergency or not??

Normal procedure as it was a normal landing after an in flight shut down. Sparks normal if engine is still rotating after a bird strike, assuming that reports of a bird strike are confirmed.

I answer to your question on who makes the decision, usually the flight deck crew, but under certain circumstances, cabin crew can make the call.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12173 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 15656 times:

So, is this another poke in the eye for RR? They sure have had their problems over the last few years on both Airbus and Boeing jets. So have GE engines.

Quoting don (Thread starter):
It is unclear how many passengers were on board but the A330 aircraft can take about 200 people.

BTW, the airplane was an A-333, and not an A-332.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05...cific-emergency-landing-singapore/


User currently offlineJA8119 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2011, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 14816 times:

Any idea of the reg?

User currently offlineflythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 14657 times:

Quoting JA8119 (Reply 18):
Any idea of the reg?

B-HLM

Glad that all people safe without any injury.

The fact that pax alight the plane with stair instead of slide told us that by the time the plane touch down, the engine problem has been well taken care of by the Captain after it is being shut down. Some how sometimes a kid could indicate spark as a flame, for if there is really a flame other passengers must have seen it clearly.


User currently offlineSenliture From Australia, joined May 2000, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 14567 times:

Aircraft involved - B-HLM

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17118 posts, RR: 66
Reply 21, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 14287 times:

Quoting JetBlue777 (Reply 15):
BTW, they used the airstairs to disembark passengers off the A/C, what is the rule of using the emergency slides? Who decides if it'll be used in an emergency or not??

Emergency slides are gnarly. Better than being burned to a crisp but you'll easily have a good 2-3 broken bones per evac. So if there is no immediate danger, use an airstair.



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User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9210 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 12189 times:

Quoting don (Thread starter):

A Cathay Pacific passenger plane made an emergency landing at Changi Airport on Monday after one of its engines caught fire.

Aircraft engines are supposed to be on fire, that is how they burn fuel. Interesting that SQ has had numerous similar events at SIN, and none are reported by the Straits Times.

Quoting PolymerPlane (Reply 3):
Looks like a little bit more serious as the emergency service had to put out flame from the engine, according to cathay's statement.

That is not what the statement says. “Sparks” were seen in flight, which is not unusual with an engine stall before the engine is shut down.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 17):
So, is this another poke in the eye for RR?

Not at all, the common explanation for engine stalls is the ingestion of FOD, like rubber sucked up from the runway, or a bird/bat strike.



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User currently offlinetepidhalibut From Iceland, joined Dec 2004, 210 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 11353 times:

Quoting btblue (Reply 14):
Another news story here - with pictures:


Oh boy. Daily Mail reader comments - an outpost of undiluted f***wittery.

I suspect that it's another Fan Blade problem - RR seems to have had a spate of them in the past few years. Whether that's an indication of a common cause or people just seeing patterns in random events...I don't know. Interesting story, but not really a major news story. My experience is that RR will keep the operators informed, and act in a sensible manner, but I doubt if there will be much that makes its way into a public forum.


User currently offlinemacsog6 From Singapore, joined Jan 2010, 535 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9767 times:
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Wonder how the Australian media will blame this on QF. The knowledge shown by the media is describing commercial aircraft is really quite poor. Local TV news in SFO reported the LH A380 as Boeing's newest aircraft.


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25 Baroque : Fan blades or IPT lubrication? Probably not the same! What were the blade problems?
26 tonyban : Just the saw the story on Yahoo.Com. They're slideshow shows a picture of 777 landing...go figure !!!
27 Post contains links PolymerPlane : This is what the statement said : I interpret it as the aircraft landed, met by fire services, sparks were observed and doused by the fire extiguishe
28 oldtimer : An engine will carry on rotating even after shutdown as it windmills, even after landing. If you think that is a lot of water, search for the AA B767
29 zeke : Those two big long things in the photos distributing water/foam are called a fire hoses, not an extinguisher. I would not be surprised if "fire fight
30 Post contains images Starlionblue : Don't look at it! It will melt your brain! The picture captions are no prize either.
31 arzenal : Boy the A330 sure is having a bad run lately huh?
32 Post contains links jourdan747 : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43043233/ns/travel-news
33 PolymerPlane : Well that sentence was a quote from CX's release on their website. I think the incident took place 20 minutes into the flight, so it was well after t
34 Post contains links CCA : The Stall / Surge may have caused damage to the fan attrition lining which led to sparks from the fan windmilling and contacting the damaged parts of
35 zeke : I realise that, the sentence makes no sense to me. That is why I suggested it may have been translated from Chinese to English. I have no idea why th
36 TreeHillRavens : It was an red-eye flight with a flying time of just 1 hour 30 minutes. Not a surprise really. I believe the main money maker for this flight is what
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