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QF7 To DFW In The Air  
User currently offlineqf744fan From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 121 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 34512 times:

Not sure if there's already a thread regarding this, but QF7, the airline's first flight to DFW has been in the air for about an hour now.

Does anyone know which bird is flying it?

Also ETA or the runway it took off from etc???

Cheers guys

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User currently offlineqantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5850 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 34436 times:

VH-OEE, using 34L...not much else to add


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User currently offlineqf744fan From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 34394 times:

That'll do me for now, thanks mate  

User currently offlineGSPflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 34323 times:

I was just thinking about this earlier and was surprised I didn't see a thread. Any spotters in DFW going to be there to get pictures? Or did anyone get a shot of the aircraft departing SYD?

User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4879 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 34239 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 3):
Or did anyone get a shot of the aircraft departing SYD?

It's Monday and many people are probably at work - preventing them from photographing it.

In any case, it's only VH-OEE, so nothing too special. If it was OEJ, then you'd have something to cheer about.  


User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1927 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 33900 times:

Anybody have any operational statistics on it? EX: Fuel load, pax count, ATOG, etc...?


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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 33798 times:

Quoting qantas077 (Reply 1):
VH-OEE, using 34L...not much else to add
Quoting cpd (Reply 4):
In any case, it's only VH-OEE, so nothing too special. If it was OEJ, then you'd have something to cheer about.

Strangely enough on my way into work this morning to my surprise VH-OEJ was taking a break near hangar 416...

EK413



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User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 33473 times:
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I find it interesting that even though the flight is operating with 4 class (FJWY) equipment, only JWY are being sold on this flight, this makes for a rather skewy seating arrangement:

Normal:
F 1-4
J: 11-18 (Upper Deck) 23-26/29-30 (Main Deck)
W: 34-39
Y: 51-75

QF8:
J: 1-4/11-18/23-26
W: 29-30/34-35
Y: 36-39/51-75

the configuration comes out to be 66/26/216



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User currently offlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5491 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 32938 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 3):
Any spotters in DFW going to be there to get pictures?

Well, I'll be there... but not for photos. My sister, niece and almost-nephew-in-law (is there such a thing?) are on the plane. They are all very excited that, for the first time, ADL-DFW is a one-stopper and (more importantly) does not require transit at LAX.

Qantas: Welcome to North Texas!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/Q...7/history/20110516/0325Z/YSSY/KDFW



...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4872 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 32845 times:

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 7):

the configuration comes out to be 66/26/216

J66 / W26 / Y215  

EK413



Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. We are tonight’s entertainment!
User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 32655 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 5):
Anybody have any operational statistics on it? EX: Fuel load, pax count, ATOG, etc...?

Being published as approximately 15 and a half hours flying time, I could imagine it will be a full fuel load which would make an impressive and increadibly long take off! As for the number of pax onbard, it will be a full flight, most inaugrals usually are. Also contacts inside QF have advised to try and avoid using Staff travel entitlements on the QF7/8 for the first month due to loadings.

I won't be there, but I will be setting my alarm for 0400hrs my time so I can listen into the atc. I'm hoping it will be a landing on the west tower frequency (since terminal D is on the western side).

Think it will get a water cannon welcome into DFW?



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User currently offlineescapehere From Australia, joined Jan 2011, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 32589 times:

This distance seems really tight for a 744ER. I wonder how often this flight will end up making unscheduled fuel stops.

User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 32425 times:

Quoting escapehere (Reply 11):

Definitely tight, I'm sure there will be 'splash 'n dash' in the future on the forward leg, it will be interesting to see where it does touch down for refuel. Will make some spotters very happy in either Mexico or possible Arizona or New Mexic. The returns will be most likely the usual Fiji or Noumea.

Being such a long flight, and with how busy DFW is as an airport, will it get a priority landing into DFW?



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User currently offlinejcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 32269 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 12):

Being such a long flight, and with how busy DFW is as an airport, will it get a priority landing into DFW?

DFW has seven non-intersecting runways. On most days, three are available for arrivals. It really never gets busy enough, except during severe weather, that you're placed in a hold.



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 32231 times:

Quoting cpd (Reply 4):
In any case, it's only VH-OEE, so nothing too special. If it was OEJ, then you'd have something to cheer about.

Why? I thought VH-OEA through VH-OEF were the B-747-438ERs and the (non-ER) B-747-438s began with VH-OEH. Is that not correct?


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 32142 times:

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 13):
DFW has seven non-intersecting runways. On most days, three are available for arrivals. It really never gets busy enough, except during severe weather, that you're placed in a hold.

Yeah, I don't think I've ever been placed in a holding pattern at DFW due to anything but severe weather. Funny thing is, the west runways of DFW may be sunny and the east runways may be stormy, but you'd never know it on the west side because DFW is so big!

UAL


User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 32121 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 14):
Quoting cpd (Reply 4):
In any case, it's only VH-OEE, so nothing too special. If it was OEJ, then you'd have something to cheer about.

Why? I thought VH-OEA through VH-OEF were the B-747-438ERs and the (non-ER) B-747-438s began with VH-OEH. Is that not correct?

OEJ is the specially painted QF744ER "Wunalla Dreaming". It is, IMO probably the most colourful aircraft liveries around for any airline



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User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 665 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 31952 times:

There never was a VH-OEA. OEB is non ER, ex Asiana. OEC and D were non ER ex-Malaysia, both have been retired
VH-OEE-OEJ are ERs


User currently offline_AA_777_MAN From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 31568 times:

Quoting GSPflyer (Reply 3):
Any spotters in DFW going to be there to get pictures?

QF has requested that AA park a 772 on the gate right next to their 744 for a photo op. They will also stay that way until the arrival of the BA flight which will park right next to them. We should see some pics.


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 31499 times:

Quoting _AA_777_MAN (Reply 18):
We should see some pics.

Unless you have ramp access, it's impossible to get pics of that trio from the gates, given where they are going to park. Though, it should be an interesting lineup on the south side of Terminal D today. LH, BA, QF, AA, KL, and KE. They should all be there around the same time at some point. Lots of color. (Actually KE may not fly today, not sure). Much more color than DFW has seen in years! And I'm talking about the Thai/Air New Zealand/NWA747 years.

UAL


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 31456 times:

Quoting escapehere (Reply 11):
This distance seems really tight for a 744ER.

It is now the third longest non-stop flight - based on the thread about long flights and the Wiki article - exceeding Delta's ATL-JNB flight by 120 nm - http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=katl-FAJS%0D%0Ayssy-kdfw&MS=wls&DU=nm

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 12):
Definitely tight,...
Being such a long flight, and with how busy DFW is as an airport, will it get a priority landing into DFW?

I would expect it to land on 18R/36L runway because it is an inagural flight and straight into Terminal D - Gate D15.

With fire trucks spraying as water salute at the intersection with the ramp.

Normal landings would be on an 18/36 runway or 13R/31L and takeoffs from the active departure 18/36 runway, but a minimized taxi.


User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 31416 times:

Quoting escapehere (Reply 11):
This distance seems really tight for a 744ER. I wonder how often this flight will end up making unscheduled fuel stops.

As far as I know, QF expect to make DFW OK most times (if they do a bit of a 'North Dog' the prevailing winds will be in their favour most of the way), but on the return trip they reckon that a tech. stop at Brisbane will be needed quite often to refuel.

I'm sure this service could make sense in business terms (given the tie-up with AA for passengers wanting to get to and from the eastern USA more quickly) but I agree that it's 'extreme range' for a 744ER. On the other hand it might be an ideal trip for 787s, when and if they ever get their hands on any......

Anyway, nice to see Qantas getting a bit 'adventurous.' Doesn't happen as often as it used to.  

[Edited 2011-05-16 07:17:07]


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User currently offlineCODCAIAH From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 31235 times:

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 21):
As far as I know, QF expect to make DFW OK most times (the prevailing winds are in their favour most of the way), but on the return trip they reckon that a tech. stop at Brisbane will be needed quite often to refuel.

The stop in BNE is built-in. This route is SYD-DFW-BNE-SYD as a matter of course.


User currently offlineSeaMeFly From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 31198 times:

Are we there yet? Are we there yet? 

User currently offlineAviRaider From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 31113 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 10):
Think it will get a water cannon welcome into DFW?

Without a doubt, this is a big deal for DFW. There will be music, lots of handshakes and lots of Texas bbq I'm sure.


25 rfields5421 : DFW PR already has the press releases ready to go - just waiting for the aircraft to be in place for the photo op with a helicopter on standby to get
26 Post contains images B727LVR : Please oh please let it come to ABQ But I'm sure PHX would be more likely, because I think they are better equipped for it. sweet!!! True, but hopefu
27 aznmadsci : QF has at least 2 billboards around IAH advertising the new DFW flight. Best of luck QF!
28 CharlieNoble : Not to take this too far off topic, but all things being equal wouldn't it be more economical to do the tech stop toward the middle of the trip somew
29 B727LVR : Just checked flight aware and current speed is 552kts (.096M)!!! Must be one heck of a tail wind if that is right!
30 Post contains images NAV20 : Probably would, CharlieNoble - but it would take the 'romance' out of it! By which I mean that I still remember my father who, post-WW2, had often to
31 legacyins : Filled with freebies from the travel industry and VPs from QF. Paid for by DFW. No John T. and his 707 like the SFO inaugeral.
32 UAL747 : She's back on the map on flight aware. Just edging near the coast of mid Mexico. Flightaware showing the flight time to be 16hrs14min today. We'll see
33 Post contains images KELPkid : Wow, will she get a water cannon salute at DFW? She's also entering US airspace at... ELP
34 commavia : Definitive a great day for D/FW, the Metroplex, and Texas - can't wait to see that thing at D in the future.
35 Post contains links NAV20 : I'm an old man in any sense, commavia - but that comment takes me even farther back:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpHiURKkY0Q Here's our equivalen
36 aa61hvy : Cheers to QF and DFW.
37 Adam T. : Yeah, I saw one on I-10W going towards Katy right before 610 - I had to blink twice when I saw it, LOL. Where is the other billboard at in Houston? N
38 flyingalex : I think the idea is leverage the flights QF has at BNE and get passengers to their destinations quicker, and with fewer stops. Those passengers heade
39 Post contains links KC135TopBoom : Thanks. I really doubt it, both ABQ and PHX are way out of the way for this route. If he absolutly has to stop for gas, it would be in ELP. http://fl
40 LuisKMIA : So there are no weight restrictions at all eastbound? Luis KMIA
41 aznmadsci : There's one on 59 North headed towards IAH around 59N and the Beltway. The other was on the Beltway by IAH headed west towards 290. I guess I missed
42 Post contains images f35 : Mach is generally used to define the velocity of the air over the wing. If you are including the tail wind, then you are talking about groundspeed. M
43 GSPflyer : QF's 747-400ER are all GE-Powered
44 Post contains images AAtakeMeAway : Good catch
45 seabosdca : Flightaware's "Mach" number is just a very rough approximation based on groundspeed and altitude. No reason to argue over the number as it tells you
46 worldliner : Good news, cant wait to see the pics!
47 Super80DFW : I will be at DFW late this evening for the inaugural departure of Qantas Flight 8 to Brisbane. I'll see if I can get some decent photos of the festivi
48 United_fan : That's going to be one lllloooonnngggg take off roll in DFW when its 100+ degrees this Summer.
49 fpetrutiu : Over Texas now. Should start descent any second. Hope they will get a warm welcome at DFW.
50 thenoflyzone : At 7,454 nm, QF will take a payload cut close to 60,000 lbs on this flight. Meaning a max payload of about 100,000lbs, which puts the max number of p
51 blueflyer : Don't worry, the party started at breakfast. The Australian ambassador is on hand for the occasion. Funny character.
52 travelin man : It doesn't depart until 10pm, so it may be warm, but it won't be 100 degrees.
53 B727LVR : With such a tight window, which airport(s) is or will be used for these flights? I would imagine it would be some of the local Dallas area airports l
54 Longhornmaniac : Just started its descent! Welcome to Texas, QF. We've been waiting a long time for you! Cheers, Cameron
55 Post contains images ABQ747 : ABQ can handle widebodies. A DL employee who is no longer a member of this website told me that at least one of the gates can accomodate a B744. ELP
56 RoseFlyer : If a fuel diversion gets scheduled due to high loads, winds or an aircraft swap, I would actually think that it would be NAN. A non ER can't make ELP
57 B727LVR : I dont doubt that, the United gate at the end where they park their 757's would be the best spot, would make for a great photo op!
58 Bthebest : Mach is not actually a speed at all, it's a ratio to the speed of sound. Means nothing on the ground really as the speed of sound varies according to
59 ZuluAlpha : it is now down to 4000 ft
60 Post contains links Longhornmaniac : Talking to Regional Approach now. http://www.liveatc.net/flisten.php?mount=kdfw Cheers, Cameron
61 ZuluAlpha : Now ordered to decend to 2000
62 Longhornmaniac : Cleared visual 36R! Cheers, Cameron
63 ZuluAlpha : Cleared and ordered to maintain 170 and a not so happly welcome to Texas
64 Post contains images KELPkid : Just a point to make here (not necessarily countering anything our good friend RoseFlyer has said): ELP has one widebody gate, A1, now mostly used fo
65 Longhornmaniac : "Qantas 7 Heavy, tower on 124.15, Welcome to Texas!" Cleared to Land, 36R. Woooo!!!!!!! Cheers, Cameron
66 Longhornmaniac : And it's on the ground! Again, Welcome to our fine Aussie counterparts! Cheers, Cameron
67 Post contains images thomasphoto60 : Indeed, welcome to the Lone Star State...........(despite the fact that 747 should be taxing to terminal D at IAH, Texas's true international airport
68 Boeing747_600 : There should'nt be any argument. The Mach number is based on airspeed not groundspeed You can define a Mach number anywhere. See above.
69 Post contains images swissair4ever : I was just waiting for someone to make a DFW bash, not surprising that its a "Houston Spotter" . Its about time that DFW is in the spotlight and IAH
70 nonrevman : It appears that they landed from the south. That would not make the view from Founders Plaza ideal. I am taking the trip in July to Sydney. In the mea
71 jmw99ttu : I just ran out there to watch her land. It's a beautiful day here and that Kangaroo looked AWESOME taxing into Terminal D. There was a helicopter hove
72 thomasphoto60 : Lighten up, it was a tongue-n-cheek remark. Frankly I am happy for DFW and as someone who travels to Aussie every few years, I am psyched that QF now
73 Boeing747_600 : IB has excellent connections with AA at MIA, so I don't see DFW on their radar anytime soon, if at all. CX starts ORD in Sep and the connections that
74 Post contains images ZuluAlpha : Now just need someone to upload some pics
75 Post contains links abanksy : Seeing as this is a Qantas link, I thought I should inform you that another A380 has had to make an emergency landing. Happened just under 30 mins ago
76 thomasphoto60 : Agreed! Ditto!
77 swissair4ever : Clearly you haven't been following the Oneworld JV or the yields/bookings on the DFW-MAD flight. The IB a340 is much better suited for that route, an
78 DFWneedsQF : Excited that Qantas finally made it to DFW. I've been waiting years for it and now go to school out of state. Can't wait to see photos
79 commavia : As was stated, the A340 is probably a better long-term solution - at least in the summer - for the DFW-MAD market than an AA 777, or 767. The market
80 Post contains images BEG2IAH : You haven't been to Texas much, have you? Classic. You guys have too many big birds there already. I miss top of garage E view at IAH, especially bet
81 UAL747 : DFW has long been a misunderstood market by many, especially those who live on the coasts. They can't fathom how what they perceive as a Texas dusty t
82 Post contains images deltaffindfw : Actually, John Travolta is at DFW. But, no 707
83 Post contains images NIKV69 : What a great day for Dallas! Always good to see Qantas flying to different countries!
84 NorthstarBoy : According to the GDS, the capacity for the flight is 307. Given the slight overlap in service classes, i.e. the first four rows of Y are in the W cab
85 Boeing747_600 : So let me see if I understand the logic here - Either AA which makes a killing on this route is going to say, OK IB, you guys have a plane that's mor
86 Boeing747_600 : That was indeed a good call. It makes perfect sense for a-nutters like us. As I mentioned in a previous post, the rationale for using an IB 340 in li
87 swissair4ever : You don't have to buy it....the fact is that yes, AA does well on the route, but could do even better. IB WILL (feel free to eat your own words when
88 DFWEagle : Not quite. Perhaps you missed the fact that AA and IB have formed a joint venture on transatlantic routes. They share the costs and profits on each o
89 UAL747 : People, including myself, are justifying this flight with an A340 due to the difference in configurations between the A340 and 763 and the demands of
90 Post contains images Jalapeno : Here she is shortly after landing, what a sight!
91 airbazar : I suspect the people making the big bucks at these airlines know better and facts are facts, the cities at the coasts have a lot more international s
92 Post contains images Boeing747_600 : I'm just using the simple fact that there is no IB 340 operating DFW-MAD today [quote=DFWEagle,reply=88]They share the costs and profits on each othe
93 iahflyer : After looking at the pic in reply 90, great pic BTW, did SQ divert to or from IAH today, I could swear that their tail is in the background behind doo
94 thomasphoto60 : I was thinking the same thing.
95 kiwiandrew : SQ fly freighter aircraft to DFW . Well spotted .
96 Post contains images KCTitan : Taken from Founder's Plaza. Quality is poor, sorry. Don't have a big super camera yet. :P[Edited 2011-05-16 14:11:55]
97 UAL747 : Umm, really? IB is going to connect to OneWorld carriers. Which in the US, that leaves..uh...AA. Geographically, other than ORD which already has IB
98 commavia : No. The Iberia A340 is more dense - with less premium and more economy - which is better suited to this route than either AA widebody, with the 777 h
99 sunrisevalley : I took a look at the FlightAware data which shows an airways distance of 7524nm ( 8658sm) and a block time of 16h 22min. Adjusting for takeoff and la
100 thenoflyzone : Considering the tailwinds, shouldn't ESAD be less than 7524 nm ? Thenoflyzone
101 Post contains links gdg9 : A few more photos, from the ramp. Sorry, can't remember how to add them to the post here. http://bit.ly/kSQAzu[Edited 2011-05-16 14:48:27][Edited 2011
102 Boeing747_600 : And how about the fact that IB's 343 are set to be phased out by Q4-2012?
103 Post contains images JayDUb : I took this one from Express South parking. Much like KCTitan, I don't have a big sexy camera just yet.
104 commavia : Notice how I've repeatedly referenced the Iberia A340/A330? The A340s will be replaced with A330s in a similar JY configuration that would also be a
105 gdg9 : off topic but that bit of property right in front there, by Express South, that used to house construction offices for Terminal D... might make a fine
106 JayDUb : Be careful using Express South. My friend that met me there told the parking attendant he was there to watch QF7 land and she barked at him that spot
107 gdg9 : Too right. I spotted there once a few years ago and felt the same way. Not that I would get in trouble, but just the hassle of having DPS come over a
108 Post contains images dfwrevolution : Never thought I would see the day! Welcome to the Metroplex, QF!
109 jmw99ttu : I'm glad you said that JayDUb. I was trying to figure out where to go to get the best view and wish I had thought of the Express South lot. It's much
110 sunrisevalley : The FlightAware log only shows the last 4-hours of the flight . No log of the first 12-hours. Only information of use is the block time assuming it i
111 f35 : Thank you
112 Post contains images cpd : OEE and the other ERs have the classic Qantas colours (OEJ excepted). With a bit of luck, you'll see VH-OEJ soon with its eye-catching red colour sch
113 commavia : Anybody know what - if anything - is planned for the inaugural departure at DFW tonight?
114 travelin man : Going forward, will the QF 744 be at the terminal all day between when it lands and when it departs in the late evening? Or will it be at a remote sta
115 swissair4ever : Not sure about the inaugural, but just went to terminal d in Dfw and saw the qf check in counter being set-up. They will check in at the Lufthansa cou
116 Airvan00 : push off was 1322 (3 min early) and airborne off 34L at 1340 (times AEST)
117 sccutler : Well, my sister, niece and her friend-boy enjoyed the inaugural service. John Travolta, regally garbed in his exquisitely-tailored Qantas pilot unifor
118 Post contains links UAL747 : Here's a video of some of the stuff that went on before the flight, and short message from the CEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV4rPlBn9SQ I wonde
119 JasonCRH : Oh gosh. just checked the schedules. QF flight attendants seem to have a minimum 48 hour layover with some having 72 hour layovers in DFW. I feel REAL
120 JasonCRH : ugh. I live in Dallas. this place is NOT cosmpolitan. labels-obsessed, shallow, and superficial yes. if that's cosmopolitan... i'm scared.
121 sccutler : Thanks for posting those, UAL - I have to admit, it's a little emotional for an ol' Dallas boy to see that Kangaroo-tailed beauty at DFW, and it's a s
122 incitatus : The reality is that while DFW is an international city, Houston is a more international city. While DFW's economy is doing well, Houston's economy is
123 UAL747 : Totally depends on where you live. I lived on Cole and Lemmon in Uptown/Turtlecreek. While everyone doesn't live on top of each other like New York C
124 JasonCRH : .... and I live on Cole and Cedar Springs. I've lived in several larger cities and frankly dont think that what we have here qualifies as cosmopolitan
125 Post contains images sccutler : Hurts to look in the mirror, huh? Oof- reality bites! I am no Houston-hater, but the Houston area is growing at a substantially-slower rate than DFW.
126 sunrisevalley : This makes the FlightAware block time suspect. Push back time was equal to 10.22pm CDT, Sunday, with an arrival time of 1.32pm CDT , Monday gives a b
127 Av8rDAL : Buddy of mine flew LAX-SYD on the A380 in the middle. 15 hours and having to ask 2-3 people to get up for a pee break, stretch, etc. I personally cou
128 beefed88 : I will get some close up pics of it this week and post them hopefully I can get KLM, BA, LH, and Qf together one of these days. I work on the ramp, un
129 gemuser : No seat seat on the A380 is more than 2 from the aisle. Exactly the same as the B747 & B777. So what's the difference? The only aircraft on the S
130 escapehere : Great! QF: SYD-ORD next please, with the 787.
131 gemuser : Why would they do that? It's ULH so it's expensive, it's connection possibilities are less then DFW, it's O&D might be better, but is still too s
132 thenoflyzone : Much better. Makes sense now. Thenoflyzone[Edited 2011-05-16 23:17:10]
133 escapehere : Same reason CX, BA, IB fly more regularly into ORD. Big economy, big conference city, lots of premium traffic. And OK, it's not as good as DFW for AA
134 Longhornmaniac : I disagree. What reasons do you have to believe this route won't work? Most Oz-US traffic is currently routed through LAX. While they offer decent co
135 escapehere : Because I've seen some of the bookings numbers for 6 months from now...
136 TruemanQLD : 6 months away? I would think most people wouldnt have booked there flight by this point... I think it is WAY to early to say this route wont work, wh
137 escapehere : In theory, I think you're 100% correct. However; 1. Most people probably *are* going to the big cities which are accessible from LAX already. 2. It i
138 jcs17 : I actually have an aviation management textbook that uses the DFW-MAD DC10 flight as as an example of a revenue loser, but a load factor winner. They
139 blueflyer : Qantas has supposedly been thinking about and planning for this route for the past ten years. I would think they'd give it more than a mere few month
140 mainMAN : I will never do MAN - MEL again without sleeping pills, and a business class ticket! And for the British too; we're paupers in Australia.
141 gemuser : If they are flying to DFW, then the ORD mega hub is pretty irrelevant and O&D, BY ITSELF, is not enough. Can some one quote the traffic numbers O
142 EK413 : Different cities more like it... SFO was dropped in favour of the DFW route which I'm sure your well aware... I have noticed the QF008 has departed f
143 nonrevman : The layover crews will find a significant advantage to DFW: shopping. With the dollar so low, they will hit the jackpot in Grapevine Mills, Galleria,
144 Post contains images Av8rDAL : I do believe it will work. With AA and QF connecting 2 of their major hubs, the lack of O&D traffic surely will be made up with connecting traffi
145 philhyde : Congratulations to DFW, Qantas, and our spotter friends to the North! Can't wait to see 'Wunala Dreaming' gracing the skies over Founder's Plaza! chee
146 philhyde : In July you should have no problem with arrivals on the 17/18's.
147 airbazar : Not exactly. If you ask the unions you'll get a totally different opinion: It does matter who operates the flight. IB and AA have been OW partners fo
148 commavia : It doesn't. Much to the union's chagrin, they don't get a veto over AA's route planning, and in a post-ATI/JV world, they don't get to decide which m
149 DFWEagle : With respect, from your comments I don’t think you understand how the recently implemented antitrust-immunized, metal-neutral joint venture works,
150 sccutler : Comm, you can save your breath. There are a lot of folks who simply cannot admit that (gasp!) it can be better for passengers to connect through DFW
151 Post contains links airbazar : That may be true for AA's unions. Not true for IB's unions. Trust me, they will defend the right to fly the routes themselves. My point was adding an
152 commavia : No question. This was never about a second DFW-MAD flight which would, indeed, be overkill (at least for now). This was about replacing the existing
153 IrishAyes : Well, I'll interject here - I think somebody did mention something along the lines of DFW-MAD going up to 10X weekly, or some other form of increasin
154 commavia : That hints at nothing beyond the fact that, by virtue of the larger halo effect driven by their larger local demand and more capacity (more flights +
155 Post contains images FXramper : Great picture, thanks for sharing! Excited much Cam?
156 airbazar : See, that's not at all what I took from it. And from a passenger perspective, DFW is the longest option of all possible connecting hubs in the US so
157 commavia : Well, again, nobody is suggesting that DFW is a viable connecting hub if you're heading to Europe from Norfolk or Orlando (although, I suspect that t
158 travelin man : I don't see why anyone WOULD connect in ORD/JFK over DFW. ORD and JFK are not good connecting airports, whereas DFW is much easier. ORD and JFK are a
159 escapehere : While that is an added bonus, that alone won't drive customer demand. 99 out of 100 people may hate transiting through an airport, but only 1 out of
160 Post contains images aa61hvy : That plane is back to normal paint if I recall. I hope someone can get a video of that bad boy leaving sometime this summer when it's still 90+ degre
161 IrishAyes : You're forgetting that a sizable chunk of DFW's int'l reach isn't just limited to Europe. There are two daily flights to Tokyo, several daily flights
162 DIRECTFLT : Wednesday (May 18th), The NWS says it will be mostly cloudy, with a high near 86. Windy, with a south wind between 15 and 25 mph, with gusts as high
163 Post contains images B727LVR : Thats just a slight breeze this time of year in the southwest....
164 philhyde : There is a picture in the db as of 4/7, so if accurate, it must be very recent. What's your source?
165 Post contains images AviRaider : Fort Worth Star Telegram photo, with Walliy Mariani, Qantas Airways Sr. Executive Vice President, The Americas and Pacific, left, Fort Worth Mayor Mi
166 ditzyboy : Or connecting over Brisbane.
167 qantas077 : The celebrations for the flight out of SYD were the most tackiest I have ever seen...
168 tullamarine : Correct, Statistics have shown the most popular cities visited by Australians apart from LAX are SFO, LAS, NYC, Washington DC and Chicago. All of the
169 ditzyboy : What a shame that no one thought to include a model 747-400 in the photo, much less one in the new livery.
170 QF762 : It will pretty cool at BNE to see potentially 3 QF B744s on the mornings that the DFW service operates, and while the SIN service remains (temporarily
171 Kent350787 : It'll be very interesting to see how these flights go. Visiting family in Boston I'll be looking out for it, as it cuts the 738 time from 5.5 to 3.5 h
172 gemuser : DFW offers connections to LGA in NY and National in DC, LAX does not. Some passengers will value this. DFW also offers shorter connections to some of
173 travelin man : Are there any publically available stats/data that show how many travelers are O&D into LAX vs. connecting? Just wondering how much of QF's curren
174 QANTAS747-438 : My first thought! That is DEFINITELY a -300! Wow. I guess the 747SP model was left behind?
175 Post contains images EK413 : It's the very first thing I noticed... They opted for the B747-338 Model hehe They could've at least gone out and purchased an updated model in the N
176 TruemanQLD : Untrue, it is still in the beautiful livery.
177 escapehere : Correct, but DFW isn't the be all and end all of limitless possibilities that some people make out. It might be superior for some things, but there a
178 Airvan00 : No one is disagreeing with you. DFW will suit some people and LAX will still have the majority. QF has 4 flights a week to DFW and 33 flights a week
179 NAV20 : I think there could be an element of 'airline preference' in this too. I used to fly frequently to and from the USA on business; usually with NYC/Wash
180 gemuser : Agreed, never said it'd work for everybody. I agree, again! The 1400 arrival time was unexpected, i was expecting around 1000. Still it's early days
181 FRAspotter : Wasn't VH-OEJ delivered in the Wunala Dreaming color scheme? The next time it needs a repaint will they go to standard colors or will they reapply th
182 Post contains images EK413 : Can only assume the standard colors will be applied to VH-OEJ... & probably VH-OQA will sport the Wunala Dreaming scheme when she returns to the
183 Post contains images TruemanQLD : I hope VH-OEJ stays in the current scheme (but with the new QF tail) and they do an A-380 in aboriginal design. If it were similar to the one on the
184 Post contains images philhyde : Yes, I believe it was. We can only hope that Wunala will live on! I agree, wholeheartedly!
185 EK413 : The second jet to have an Aboriginal scheme was B747-338 VH-EBU. The blue Nalanji Dreaming scheme was unveiled on November 14th 1995 and remained on
186 KELPkid : Wonder why the flight isn't daily? Also, anyone know the tail # for today's flight?
187 Post contains images aussieindc : If it were a guessing game, one would have 16.66% chance of getting it right. While not having access to ACARS, I wouldn't be surprised to see VH-OEE
188 IrishAyes : Three words: Fly Air Canada. Problem solved.
189 Post contains images texan : What Nik is referring to is that Texas used to be its own country, has an independent streak, and often uses the phrase, "Texas. It's like a whole ot
190 gdg9 : Indeed, VH-OEE again. ACARS mode: S Aircraft reg: VH-OEE [Boeing B744] Message label: _ Block id: 5 Msg no: S15A Flight id: QF0007 [SYD-DFW] [Qantas]
191 gemuser : QF, for decades, have started new routes at 3 per week, moving to 5 per week as traffic builds and then daily. The process can take from one to five
192 Post contains links texan : From the Qantas press release when they announced the service: Once the new alliance comes into place, it will provide a joint platform for the airli
193 cpd : It has been on two B747s, a B747-438, and a B747-438/ER. So it'll surely live on.
194 Post contains images DFW36L : Here she is at gate D6, today, which is Wednesday, the second operation. Gate D6 was a surprise for me. I've never seen anything but Eagle ERJs at th
195 IrishAyes : LOVE THE PHOTO! Thanks for posting. The KL plane looks pretty tiny compared to the 744 haha. If the BA plane could be captured in there, well - that w
196 Post contains images Kent350787 : Not adding any value for the OP, but can i vote here for Nalanji as my favourite of the 3 QF Aboriginal schemes?
197 Post contains images qf744fan : Completely off topic, but very welcome
198 Bthebest : Any one know if or where any of these pics have been released?
199 LAXdude1023 : Which doesnt mean much on a brand new route. Ive seen the bookings for the next two to three month and they look great. No, but for every city that m
200 LAXdude1023 : Ironically, you should check your facts. DFW and IAH carry more international traffic than either SEA or BOS. No one is suggesting that both IB and A
201 mogandoCI : and it's too far long a route for the 744ER to serve without CASM going through the roof - notice how nearly every flight around that distance is ser
202 commavia : The 747 is not the optimal aircraft, but it should be doable until the 787s arrive. Yeah, we get it that you don't think the route will work and you
203 LAXdude1023 : Ive said over and over that the 744 is obviously not the best choice, but they have to work with what they have. The 77L or the 77W would have been p
204 ditzyboy : The international to domestic connection in Brisbane can still be messy. The terminals are much farther apart. I believe we use a shuttle bus (instea
205 thenoflyzone : Seems to me all major airports in Australia (SYD, MEL, PER and BNE) have different terminals for Intl and domestic operations. Sounds like a 1970's w
206 BNEFlyer : That's correct. I suppose it's because the bus stops right out front the terminal, whereas for the train you have to go up to the bridge then walk ab
207 gdg9 : No doubt the landing fees and all the sweet deals DFW gave to Qantas will help for the first two years. I believe they received a few million in conc
208 tayser : that's a BIG gap between PPT and SDJ Separate sterile areas: yes. Seaprate buildings? not all no. In MEL, the walking distance from International Arri
209 tayser : If you look at it on a pure range basis: no it's not. Size wise it probably is - I can see SYD-DFW going A380 at some point, daily when they get thei
210 AJ : The real advantage is if you are not flying to SYD. You can avoid LAX and fly: BOS-DFW-BNE-MEL BOS-DFW-BNE-PER BOS-DFW-BNE-CNS BOS-DFW-BNE-ADL ...and
211 TruemanQLD : Well QF doesnt have 777's or A340's (but that is an over talked topic already) and the 747-400ER is the next best option. Its great to be an arm-chai
212 aail86 : It is the longest 744 route in the world. So of course making it work isn't going to be a slam dunk. Isn't it amusing, AA is always knocked by some f
213 Post contains links qantas077 : http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-...n-dallas-route-20110531-1fdl1.html already being hampered by headwinds.
214 sunrisevalley : Would be interesting to know what the fuel load was ex DFW. Looking at other westbound flights across the Pacific from LAX to Australia on the same d
215 nonrevman : Have there been any other diversions to Fiji so far other than the one mentioned in the article? This makes at least one diversion gong to Australia (
216 Post contains images Kent350787 : Have there been any diversions to Fiji? This one was to Noumea, New Caledonia, which is around 700km to the SW of Fiji, about halfway between Fiji an
217 mogandoCI : yup, and your own posting history is like 95+% favorable to AA - that's very objective too next time i have $471M to throw down the toilet, i'll call
218 LAXdude1023 : You dont read my posts very well. I have been very critical of AA's management and AA's unions. I have said over and over that AA needs drastic chang
219 mogandoCI : did they fill the plane by merely steering people away from LAX flights to artificially inflate loads on the new route ? (or provide extra kickbacks
220 nonrevman : I was probably thinking Fiji because it was another suggested diversion field. You are right though, it was Noumea. This will likely be the 1st choic
221 LAXdude1023 : Dude, they dont go to each person booking a flight booking a flight and tell them to fly through DFW instead of LAX. They still codeshare to the same
222 IrishAyes : "We're a few weeks into the new route and we'll keep monitoring it," Mr Woodward said. "We're gaining as much operational experience and getting as m
223 Post contains links gdg9 : http://t.co/XiHQhc5 Flights leaving with virtually no freight, 50 empty seats each time DFW-BNE
224 gemuser : I hope so! It was always the intention, as discussed by the former EGM QF, that DFW would "relive the pressure" on LAX, ie it would provide more capa
225 IrishAyes : Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
226 dolphinflyer : I've often wondered why QF chose to route the westbound flight as DFW-BNE-SYD instead of DFW-AKL-SYD. DFW-AKL is roughly 900 miles shorter than DFW-BN
227 Kent350787 : All comments have been that the recent headwinds are "atypical". With the current equipment, Brisbane offers a better compromise for domestic connecti
228 gemuser : Is demand really stronger? BNE is bigger than AKL and Queensland is bigger than New Zealand, not to mention connections to ADL & PER. The problem
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