Pihero From France, joined Jan 2005, 5174 posts, RR: 78 Posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 64041 times:
I think this requires a new thread as we are in a new development .
France Info has just said that a BEA announcement confirms that the recorders have been read and that the entirety of the recorded data have been extracted.
We're then entering the formal transcript of the FDR : CVR recordings, and the accurate examination of the data will reveal what happened to AF447.
I confess that I had a few moments of doubt and we have to really congratulate Honeywell for the quality of their procuct, and the BEA engineers for achieving the data extraction.
Edited for addition :
This is the banner *Le Monde* is displaying : ALERTE 12h27 : Le BEA a pu lire toutes les données des boîtes noires du vol Rio-Paris
Le Bureau d'enquêtes et d'analyses est parvenu ce week-end à "recueillir l'intégralité des données contenues" dans les deux boîtes noires du vol AF-447, dont le crash avait fait 228 morts le 1er juin 2009. Le BEA annonce qu'un rapport d'étape sera rendu public cet été. (AFP et Reuters.)
Pihero From France, joined Jan 2005, 5174 posts, RR: 78
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 63495 times:
I think we need to show the BEA briefing text in its entirety : 16 May 2011 briefing
Following operations to open, extract, clean and dry the memory cards from the flight recorders, BEA Safety Investigators were able to download the data over the weekend.
These operations were filmed and recorded in their entirety. This was done in the presence of two German investigators from BFU, an American investigator from NTSB, two British investigators from AAIB and two Brazilian investigators from CENIPA, as well as an officer from the French judicial police and a court expert.
These downloads gathered all of the data from the Flight Data recorder (FDR), as well as the whole recording of the last two hours of the flight from the Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR).|/b]
In the framework of the safety investigation directed by the BEA, all of this data will now be subjected to detailed in-depth analysis.
This work will take several weeks, after which [b]a further interim report will be written and then published during the summer.
Revelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 15720 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 63157 times:
Quoting travelavnut (Reply 3): "The Bureau d'Enquetes et d'Analyses said it had retrieved "all of the data" from the flight-data recorder and the "whole recording" of the final two hours of flight from the cockpit-voice recorder."
What a way to brighten up the monday
I understand where you are coming from, but I feel a sense of dread when I think of the struggles of the flight crew that are recorded on the CVR.
I know the transcripts will be done with sensitivity and professionalism, and I know the whole flying community will benefit from the costly lessons, but still...
Quoting Pihero (Reply 9): These operations were filmed and recorded in their entirety. This was done in the presence of two German investigators from BFU, an American investigator from NTSB, two British investigators from AAIB and two Brazilian investigators from CENIPA, as well as an officer from the French judicial police and a court expert.
I bet those technicians who were actually doing the work were pretty stressed out by their audience.
Quoting Pihero (Reply 9): This work will take several weeks, after which a further interim report will be written and then published during the summer.
Baroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 62919 times:
Quoting Pihero (Reply 9): BEA Safety Investigators were able to download the data over the weekend.
Wonder if this will put paid to the concept that they would have taken cheese with their whine over a long lunch? Well done the French. Superb job, finding, recovering and downloading, and all those who helped.
flaps30 From United States of America, joined May 2009, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 60690 times:
This is great news for all involved in the search. Getting off topic for just a bit, all this makes me wonder what was done regarding the search for the Yemenia A310 that crashed near the Comores just a few weeks after AF447. Was there an extensive search for the aircraft or the black boxes? This crash is just as much a mystery as AF447. Does anyone have any info about this crash and the investigation?
richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4539 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 60428 times:
Well I guess this announcement truly answers one major question - that the data appears to have been preserved after not only surviving the wreck itself but also after spending nearly two years on the floor of the Atlantic Ocean. I know this was somewhat expected, after the unbelievable recovery, but it is still truly amazing!
Now we can only help that the data they are able to extract is meaningful and tells investigators exactly what they want to know: the precise cause or causes of this awful tragedy. I know there is a lot of litigation pending the outcome of this investigation but that is far less important than preventing another AF447 type of crash. Once again, RIP to the victims... they are never far from my mind.
Trin From United States of America, joined May 2011, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 59820 times:
This is absolutely incredible, but I think some may need to try and temper their "woo-hoo's", "pats-on-the-backs" and smiley faces. My initial reaction to Pihero's announcement was to clap both hands over my mouth and cry. I'm still somewhat in that phase, actually. We are, after all, talking about the recovery of the answer to why many, many people tragically died and why an experienced crew lost control of an advanced aircraft. I, too, feel the sense of dread and impending flood of information that will revolutionize certain aspects of modern flight.
RIP all those who perished.
"I'd always thought you were a guy." .... "Most guys do." ~The Matrix.
SSPhoenix From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2010, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 59584 times:
Quoting richierich (Reply 18): I know this was somewhat expected, after the unbelievable recovery, but it is still truly amazing!
Quoting BEG2IAH (Reply 17): This is more than great news. Congratulations to everyone who worked on this tough endeavor.
Agree. Agree. Agree.
The outcome of the analysis will hopefully provide some form of closure to the relatives of the dearly departed. Whilst every crash shares this characteristic, I personally find AF447 to be particularly sobering - reminding us of how vast our planet is. The recovery operation is a success in the light of the economical, operational and engineering challenges faced, and hopefully will lay to rest the educated speculation that has surrounded this accident.
The very fact that the flight data and cockpit voice recorders have managed not only to survive, but yield key information is a technical achievement on its own.
God bless the relatives of the victims and the teams involved in the search operation.
tp1040 From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 59197 times:
The thought of this really is amazing. When the accident first occurred, due to the location, I held out little hope for even finding the FDR and CVR. But to find them and extract ALL the data is truly a herculean feat. Many people and technologies had to work together for this to happen.
I am sure that what is learned will save lives in the future.
bueb0g From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2010, 762 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 58808 times:
Quoting Pihero (Thread starter): I confess that I had a few moments of doubt and we have to really congratulate Honeywell for the quality of their procuct, and the BEA engineers for achieving the data extraction.
Agreed! Truly staggeringly good news. Great job to all involved. And what a great design job Honeywell did.
Quoting travelavnut (Reply 6): Indeed, for a year now I kinda accepted the "fact" that we would never really know what happened to AF447, and now this! It all went so fast
Same! I resigned myself to that "fact", I couldn't believe it at all when I saw the "AF 447 found" thread, and my disbelief was no less pronounced when the FDR, data module and then CVR were found. Fantastic.
Quoting fca767 (Reply 7): I know they say 2012 for the report...but will we get any info before then or do we have to wait?
Perhaps the CVR transcript can easily be produced to tell us something
You keep asking this! We WILL have info before 2012, in the form of interim reports. They might tell us what the crew were thinking/doing but there will not be a formal transcript release before the final report, if at all.